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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:57 PM
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Feds Force Hundreds of California's Medical Marijuana Dispensaries to Close

Feds Force Hundreds of California's Medical Marijuana Dispensaries to Close
By Kristen Gwynne
December 7, 2011


Less than two months after California's U.S. attorneys announced plans to initiate a federal crackdown on the state's medial marijuana distributors and patients, hundreds of California's medical marijuana dispensaries have been forced to close their doors. The federal war on weed came as a surprise to many distributors and patients who remember Obama's campaign promise not to act on medical marijuana, but leave regulations up to the state. Instead, he has proven himself to be even worse than George Bush.

According to the Sacramento Bee, only eight of 99 dispensaries remain open in Sacramento County, and 25 of 38 have closed in Sacramento city. Even more have closed out of fear of federal prosecution against business operators and their landlords. In Sand Diego, almost two-thirds of about 220 dispensaries have closed under threats of federal property seizures and city lawsuits.

The threats have caused some businesses to turn to delivery services, pushing patients into a more stigmatized environment.

Multiple lawsuits have been filed to stop the federal attack on legal, medical marijuana, but the outcomes may not be favorable. U.S. District Judge Saundra Brown Armstrong recently ruled that she would not protect marijuana dispensaries from federal actions because federal law considers marijuana illegal, and Congress still refuses to acknowledge the plant's medical value.

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/745016/feds_force_hundreds_of_california%27s_medical_marijuana_dispensaries_to_close/#paragraph2
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:20 PM
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1. This is so outrageous.
Many people are now out of a job. Patients are without access to their meds. Black market criminal activity will increase, as well as prices.

Obama is one cruel dude. He's lost me, but many of my outlaw grower friends are happy with his war on pot.
The market has been glutted with inexpensive and beautiful buds for years. Now the guerilla growers and the gangs can look for the prices to rise again.

None of this makes any sense. The reasons that led to cannabis prohibition are laughable. Reefer Madness propaganda still lives on, after 75 years. :crazy:

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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:22 PM
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2. More change we can believe in - n/t
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:22 PM
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3. The floggings will continue until the Dirty Fucking Hippies start clapping loud enough..
Just because their hands are handcuffed behind their back is no fucking excuse.

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:44 PM
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4. that was a nice speech on Gay rights
however
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:53 PM
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5. My guys... two different dispensaries...
in Palm Springs tell me they are in the clear.

They are in light-industrial zoned spots, pay all the taxes, have business licenses and all like that.

We'll see.

I stock up every time I go into town.
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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:32 AM
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12. if the goon squads don't have time to play with them the IRS will do to them
what they've done to Harborside in Oakland.

Deny deductions.

No dispensary will be able to survive that, at least without private funding. And who is going to fund a business guaranteed to lose money?

The IRS isn't going to change their mind without a massive legal battle. Who's going to pay for that?

Your buddies better have plan b,c,d and e.

Google Harborside IRS for the gory details and the future of all dispensaries. It's right there.

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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:21 AM
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19. I'm gonna stock up..... bigtime! nt
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 12:00 AM
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20. They are not in the clear.
Many dispensaries have all that, and they are being closed down. Landlords are being threatened with having their property confiscated.

The oldest club in the nation, The Marin Alliance For Medical Marijuana, has operated by the book since the beginning. They are licensed by the town of Fairfax, CA, operate with the town's blessing, but the feds are getting ready to close them down. They aren't allowed to claim any business expenses. The IRS is after them for millions in back taxes.

No providers are safe anymore. The shit is hitting the fan.
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SoCalMusicLover Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:00 AM
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6. What Would Folks Here Be Saying If * Were President
Stories like this under the prior administration, would be met with vicious attacks.

I guess since it's a Democrat in the white house, we need to just say, "well, it could be worse, right?"

He won't miss my vote when I stay home next November. The competition is a joke.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:38 AM
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8. Same thing I say now: "No way will I ever vote for a drug fascist like him."
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:53 AM
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15. And he won't miss mine when I write in "mickey mouse" or "none of the above"
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:14 AM
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7. The half dozen or so in my area are all open for business.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 12:01 AM
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21. Not for long.
They just haven't gotten to them yet.
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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:02 AM
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9. "and Congress still refuses to acknowledge the plant's medical value..." Yet the feds hold a patent
on medical uses of Cannabis

Not only is there seemingly no national reporter that realizes this elephant in the fracking dining room but apparently few others realize the significance of this.

It's really quite astounding.

#6,630,507 just a search on the number will bring up pages of people that do get it.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507

United States Patent 6,630,507
Hampson , et al. October 7, 2003

Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

Abstract

Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention

One day during one of Holders pressers some reporter will bring this up.

And it will be a new day for Cannabis.

For now, we wait...

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:07 AM
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10. The administration specifically turned their back on science for political reasons just today..
When Sebelius overruled the FDA decision to allow OTC plan B to younger women.

So a reporter asking Holder anything isn't going to make an iota of difference.
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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:26 AM
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11. So if the majority (or even a good portion) of the populace knew that the feds hold a patent
on that which they claim has no medical value

it wouldn't make any difference?

If that's the case there is no hope, and you're right.

I have a problem believing that, but I've had a problem with what the feds have gotten away with for a long long time.

The majority get what they deserve, if they care more about the Dancing with the Stars finalists than about a glaring lie that is right out in print, (not some f&cking conspiracy theory) then all really is lost. Sad to see. Whatever.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:53 AM
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13. There are more than a few DUers defending today's decision by Sibelius..
Keep in mind you live in a nation where only 39% of the population believes in evolution.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/darwin-birthday-believe-evolution.aspx

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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:52 AM
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14. How many campaign promises broken?
Jeebus H. Christ on a Trailer Hitch.
:grr: :grr:
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populistleftist1 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:06 AM
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16. they are going after the for-profit dispensaries
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 07:22 AM by populistleftist1
the nonprofit ones are being left alone. This is a good thing. One, it lets obama been seen as pro law and order, thus helping him get reelected. he is the lesser evil, after all.

two, it helps lower the price of weed. In states where there are nonprofit dispensaries only, the price of weed plummeted. In NM, good weed is only about 100/oz.



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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 12:10 AM
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23. They will go after them all.
This is not a good thing. The feds are not allowing dispensaries to claim business expenses. Non profits will be targeted soon enough.

This is very much a work in progress. The providers who are still open are lucky (so far). It will get much worse.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:18 AM
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17. And Our County Sheriff
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 07:22 AM by Le Taz Hot
who has a personal jihad against MM is in D.C. at this very moment testifying how medical marijuana has been disasterous for the State of California. :eyes: Of course, the facts are:

1) As more and more dispenseries opened up, the less patients were buying (indirectly) from the cartels.
2) Private entreprenuers were growing for the dispenseries and therefore supplying the MM. Consequently, there were less incidents this year of illegal growing in the Sierra.
3) She claims that crime was up in areas that housed dispenseries which is an absolute falsehood. Crime had no appreciable change in those areas. I know. I looked it up. High crime areas that housed dispensaries had always been high crime areas and dispenseries that were in "good" neighborhods did NOT see an increase in crime.
4) She claims that the larger private growers are growing for the cartels when, in fact, they're growing for the dispensaries where they can claim MUCH higher profits.
5) The cartels couldn't be happier with all these dispenseries shutting down -- it's good for THEIR business.

Unfortunely, our Congress isn't interested in facts and there is no one scheduled to testify the other POV. Sadly, our president has given the green light for all this.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:18 AM
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18. while our troops protect poppy fields.
just fucking perfect.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 12:03 AM
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22. The President supports legal Medical Marijuana!
Er... :shrug:
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