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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 12:15 PM
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The George Carlin Clip Every American Needs To See
The words of the late, great George Carlin still reverberate through this country.

Warning: strong language in this video may not be suitable for some viewers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=acLW1vFO-2Q
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 12:43 PM
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1. He knew what he was talking about
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:29 PM
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2. You guys are like a cult.
Is there a schedule for posting this same clip? How many times has this been posted on DU?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:42 PM
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3. Its a powerful clip that needs to be viewed by everybody
Can't quite figure out your objection to it :shrug: You don't have to watch if you've already seen it. Then again, I suspect that maybe you do.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:55 PM
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5. My objection is the tone.
Not the analysis. Carlin, a wealthy man, was able to sit back and evaluate the U.S. from the safety of his home. His tone is hopeless, giving up the possibility that anything can be done about it. That works for him, because he has that safe retreat of his wealth. Does the idea that the whole situation is hopeless really help motivate someone with limited resources, like most of us here? Or does it amount to discouragement? There's only a small percentage of people, in my opinion, who respond to a forceful, dark story that all is lost with redoubled efforts. You may be in that group, but what makes you sure this is a help to others?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:49 AM
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6. I think the reality scares you
And this really is where we are at now. For many people, this is why they snipe at OWS. Acknowledging that our government has been completely corrupted by super-wealthy/powerful interests means that the systems and checks that we used to look to no longer are functional, that change cannot occur using them. So then what? Scary, huh?

I'll leave a light on for you.
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WildNovember Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 06:53 AM
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9. No, I think the poster's point was that Carlin says "Everything is fucked and you're powerless."
That the message, while appearing to be subversive to the PTB, is ultimately supportive to them. Impotent cynicism is supportive of the status quo.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:37 PM
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10. Yup, you got it.
Very succinct. Actively supportive, when combined with "evangelism". There are, however, people who react to hearing Carlin's message by digging in to fight, I'll accept that, but I really don't think a majority do.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 06:04 AM
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21. Carlin was flipping on the light exposing where we are
It wasn't his job to tell you how to go about fixing it, he just let us know it was broken. What you do with that is up to you.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 06:20 AM
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7. A frank assessment of the situation is a good first step.
But you're right, people need to understand that they can change things.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:41 PM
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12. Agree wholeheartedly.
A frank assessment is where you start.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 06:31 AM
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8. Hmmm..
... we elect "hope and change" and we get EXACTLY more of the same. It IS hopeless, until the country hits rock bottom and there is (literally) blood (not just peasant blood) in the streets.

But hey, be hopeful - this scenario is less than a decade away!
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:39 PM
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11. Can you give examples of your theory?
This theory that if only things get bad enough, everything will turn out well? When has this ever happened? Isn't it just magical thinking?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:41 PM
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19. Yes.
... Egypt, Libya, soon Syria, Tunisia, France, really countless others. A huge majority cannot be ripped off by a tiny minority forever, eventually they get sick of it.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:43 PM
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13. Amen to that...Obama was supposed to be precisely the change we had hoped for...
...and he failed spectacularly...so what do you suggest we do now...look for a candidate whose motto is "Hope and Change - This time I really mean it?"....

George Carlin was spot on...We're fucked...all we can argue about is whether we get kissed first...
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:51 PM
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14. Your bold, progressive message is "Give up, all is lost?"
You think this is progressive?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:57 PM
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15. No less progressive than "I was just kidding about that whole 'hope and change' thing"..
..me? I choose to fight back by sending money to progressive candidates and progressive causes...actions speak louder than words..
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 02:05 PM
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16. "Actions speak louder than words"
You might be wasting your money if you contribute to progressive causes and simultaneously, with your words, undermine people's conviction that change is possible.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 04:40 PM
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17. ...hence the "Actions" part being more important than the "words" part...
...
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 04:50 PM
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18. You're deliberately weakening your effectiveness, then?
Why is that?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:44 PM
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20. I suggest.
... that you prepare for what is inevitable, and stop thinking any politician in this country is going to do anything other than carry out the wishes of big business.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 03:48 PM
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4. This should be shown on a regular basis, the propaganda for which
Carlin was ranting about is shown 24/7 to tens and hundreds of millions of people.

This is just a small drop of opposition against that decades old ocean of brainwashing.

Today with the Occupy Movement protest along with the political misuse of power in shutting them down and resultant police brutality, Carlin's message is more appropriate, relative and needed than ever.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 06:17 AM
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22. All different kinds of cultish posts on DU.
Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 06:21 AM by No Elephants
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