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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 03:52 PM
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Casually Pepper Spraying Baby Jesus: Meme of the Year Meets Christmas Sweater
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/12/abbie_heppe_ugly_christmas_sweater_baby_jesus_pepper_spray.php



It's that time of year again...the time we talk about ugly Christmas sweaters. Alas, as ugly and wonderfully retro as your Christmas sweater may be (we are sure it's quite hideous), you are never going to beat this Christmas sweater, at least not this year. Abbie Heppe, Community Manager for Respawn Entertainment, trendsetter, attended a party recently wearing this garb, which she created in an undeniably magical moment. A friend submitted her picture to Reddit and the rest, as they say, is history. Pepper spray sensation + Bible sensation = VIRAL sensation.

For the high-minded, this is a statement about police brutality and how the powerful prey upon the weak, as well as a look at the omnipresent meme-ification of contemporary culture. For the low-minded, this is simply hilarious. For the religious, this is baby Jesus. For most of us, this is some combination of the above
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 03:53 PM
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1. I can tell she is very snarky....nt
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MichaelMcGuire Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:06 PM
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2. R
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:10 PM
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3. The Four Wise Men brought gifts of gold, frankincense, myrrh, and ARRRGHGHHH
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:19 PM
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4. ...
:spray:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:30 PM
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8. gifts of pepper spray, tasers and illegal evictions.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 10:54 AM
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19. They brought a castle?
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 11:01 AM
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20. ........
:D

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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 03:19 PM
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21. Wait....Given all those rich gifts, does that make Jesus part of the 1%?
Until, of course, Joseph invested it into a hedge fund, lost it, and couldn't be bailed out so had to go back to carpentry....At which point he became "Joe the Carpenter" and is being feted by the Republicans who hope he'll complain about being required to pay minimum wage and health insurance to Jesus for helping him out in the shop.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:19 PM
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5. I absolutely
love it!!! The Baby Jesus has been PIKED! (the police dude's name).
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:20 PM
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6. Love it.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:22 PM
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7. She wins the Internet for today.
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:38 PM
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9. Kick and Rec!
Where can I get one?
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:40 PM
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10. occunativity. -eom
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:41 PM
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11. A definite thumbs up
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:54 PM
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12. It looks like Mr Hankey doing the spraying, which is in keeping with the Season. . .
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 10:44 AM
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18. Indeed. An maybe Towlie had a helping hand in the inspiration! -eom
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:54 PM
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13. lol. n/t
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 06:06 PM
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14. That outline with a hat, must be Herod the Great's Police Force.
Remember your Bible Story, the Wise-men came from the East to seek the birth of the King of the Jews. They stopped in Jerusalem to talk to King Herod the Great where the Messiah was to be born. This shock Herod, for the Jews were known NOT to seek signs in the Sky (That was a specialty of the followers of Zoroastrianism who at time were tied in with Persia, who were tied in with the Priest Class of Jews of that time period, Herod was King NOT Chief Priest of Judea and was allied with the Romans).

Thus Herod represent the Government and his troops would be the equivalent of today's Police.

These Wise-men appear to have been a shock to Herod, all he needed was another Persian supported Priest led revolt against his rule and that of Rome (He had put down at least two such revolts, with the support of Rome each time). Thus he appears to have taken in these Wise-men and told them Bethlehem is were the Messiah was to be born, and if they found him, to tell him so Herod could also worship the new Messiah. The New Testament clearly state this was a front, for Herod wanted to kill the infant for baby Jesus was a threat to his throne. After the Wise men found Jesus and made they offering of gifts, an angel came to them in a Dream telling them to go directly back home NOT to tell Herod anything.

Thus the Wise Men left Judea and Herod was left NOT knowing where Jesus was living. The New Testament clearly states Herod sent in Soldiers to kill any child under age of three to make sure the new Messiah was died (This is called the Murder of the Holy Innocents). Soon after Herod died.

Tradition holds that Joseph used the wise men gifts to pay for his and his families move to Egypt, then once Herod was died to Galilee, for at Herod's death, Judea was divided by Rome among his grandchildren (They parents had been killed by Herod) and it appears Galilee was the least likely of the three heirs to try to Kill Jesus.

Now, some scholars have questioned the Murder of the Holy Innocents, for no one reports such a massacre (and Herod atrocities were widely reported, Augustus is suppose to have said, it was better to be Herod's Pig then his son, for as a Jew he had no reason to kill a pig).

The comeback to that is that in Herod's day, Bethlehem was a very small town. It had been built as an outpost to protect Jerusalem during the time period where Ancient Judea was under threat from the New Babylonia Empire, c 600 BC, but the time of Christ it had become a very small town. The main reason for this is there is no nearby spring or other source of water. Good defensive position, but no water. The water shortage had been resolved, but only to a limited degree, by the development of Cisterns, i.e. every house had drainage pipes that directed any rain that fell on the roofs into the Cisterns for later use. This Bethlehem had a very small population given that it had NOT been a fortification for a couple of hundred years by the time of Christ.

Thus the total number of Children under age three in Bethlehem at the time of Christ's birth may have been only a handful. One scholar speculated that the number of children killed may have been none, Herod issued the orders, the Soldiers went out to carry out those orders and finding no children under age three returned home telling their supervisors they had killed any and all children under age three. That which would have been true for they were none to kill. Remember it takes a really evil person to kill a healthy baby, I suspect the soldiers did NOT look that hard, told everyone's they intention if they found any, so the people of Bethlehem would make sure they were none to find.

I go into the above, for the wise men were NOT the people who would have used pepper spray on baby Jesus, but the Soldiers of King Herod, who put to deaths those children under age of three on the orders of King Herod, would be the equivalent of the Police who pepper sprayed the Occupy Wall Street crowd. A better picture would have been the police spraying Baby Jesus, to catch the image of Herod's troops and the Holy Innocents in the Bible.
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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 03:29 PM
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23. Joseph was either ripped off or embezzled the money if....
Edited on Tue Dec-06-11 03:31 PM by Moonwalk
...he used gold, Frankincense and Myrrh to get to Egypt from Bethlehem. It's not that long a trip even on foot, and he could have gotten there for just one portion of the incense.

And if Herod, as a Jew, didn't go for following the stars, why believe the wise men at all? Just say, "Yes, he's going to be born here--" point to a pregnant concubine about to give birth, and take the gold and incense for oneself. And if the wise men were from Persia, and not Jews, why follow the stars to a Messiah? The only people the Messiah matters to is the Jews because all the Messiah is supposed to do is give Jerusalem back to the Jews.

I'm seeing a few holes in this story..... :eyes:
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 05:44 PM
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24. Just because Jews did not go into the Stars, did not mean they ignored them
Remember, Herod was King of the Jews, based on Roman Power NOT any other right. In fact his family was not of the Jewish blood lines (But a related tribe, that the Jews incorporated into the Jewish people during Herod's father's time period).

Thus Herod's hold on Power in Judea was weak. He had lost it at least twice before and feared losing it again. The main opposition was the Pharisees, who were openly allied with the Persians of his time period (One group of Historians believe the term "Phasisees" is a divination of Persia or Parthian, the Parthens ruled Persia at that time, through others says it is from a Jewish root word, the strange fact is BOTH may be right). Another group were the High Priest of the Temple. Herod could be King, but he could NOT be High Priest, and as such always had to watch who the High Priest was. Who could be High Priest was restricted to people with certain blood lines, but that did NOT stop High Priests from also being King. While the Priest Class was NOT tied in with Persia, it was more then willing to support a revolt that gave them more power. Internal Politics, even at that time, could be nasty.

While the Jews did not watch the Stars the Persians did. The mere fact that the Wise men showed up would have been a warning to Herod that trouble was afoot. One set of Bible Scholars like to point out, that not only was Mary of the Right Family for the Messiah to be born into, so was Joseph. There may have been more to the story of Jesus's birth then the New Testament relate, but it was enough for someone like Herod to take action.

As to the Persians, the Zoroaster religion of that time period was big into signs of the heavens, including signs for various nations. One story of the "star" of Bethlehem was it appeared in the West, then later re-appeared in the East. A conjunction of the Planets occurred at that time period, once in the Western Sky, then within a year in the Western Sky. That conjunction of planets, not a super nova, could be the "Star" reported in the Bible (The term "Star" at that time period was broader then it is today, including ANYTHING seen in the Sky, including Conjunctions of Planets and stars). Thus the "Star" may have meant nothing to the Jews till these Wise Men appeared. Given previous support for Jewish Revolts by the Persians against Rome, Herod could have viewed it as another Persian plot to take over Judea. Politics existed even at the time of Christ, including foreign intrigue.

As to Joseph's use to the Gold, Silver and Frankincense to pay for his stay in Egypt, those gifts probably also paid for the 2-3 years Joseph and his family stayed in Egypt till AFTER Herod was dead AND it was clear who was going to rule what part of Judea. It then paid for the family to move to Galilee and settle down.

Please note, Galilee was in open revolt about 14 AD, and Rome put it down with typical Roman brutality, Most of the full grown males disappeared from Galilee at that time period (Roman brutality would explain the disappearance of Joseph from the biblical record after Jesus entered adolescents and that Jesus is not reported to have a wife, something a father of a child would arrange when his son hit about 14 years of age. Joseph being killed in that revolt would also explain the disappearance the last of the "gifts", Romans were both bloody and greedy, but always place greed over being bloody most of the time, thus the last of the money may have been paid to spare Mary's and Jesus's life). This is all speculation, the gifts may have been long gone by the time the family returned to Galilee. These wise men were NOT merchants or Government officials but scholars and thus may have very little Gold, Silver and Frankincense to give. The wisemen may have given Gold, Silver and Frankincense, but no mention of how much of each. An once of each would have been a ransom at that time period, but barely enough to live on for 2-4 years.

An ounce of Gold today is $1500, how long could you live on that much money? Food and Rent has to come out of it, $1500 sounds like a lot, but it is only 10 months of Welfare payments in my home county, the Federal Government says it cost you $674 a month to survive, that that is not even three months cost of living for ONE person. If the Silver and Frankincense was of similar size, you are looking at barely enough to live off for a year. Most scholars view Joseph as what we could call a "Rough Carpenter" i.e. someone who work with wood to build homes and make rough wooden items. "Smooth Carpenter" is the name for carpenters who do furniture, and are viewed as Skilled workers. Rough Carpenters are viewed as semi-skilled or unskilled workers. Thus Joseph had some marketable skills but none in demand in lower Egypt at that time period, thus Joseph and his family had to live off something and that is probably where most, if not all, of the gifts went.

We know Joseph was poor, for a week after Jesus was born, Mary presented Jesus at the Temple (as was required by Jewish law at that time) and made an offered of two doves. Two Doves were offered by people to poor to buy any other offering. This is reflected in the Church Calendar. In the Church Calendar, Christmas is followed by the Presentation of Christ at the temple on New Years day, Jewish new borns were presented on the seventh day after birth. Epiphany, or Twelfth night, occurs five days later and by tradition the day the Three Wise men arrived. Thus Joseph clearly had almost no funds before the Wise men Arrived, but had enough to get to Egypt and live they for a few years AFTER the Wise men arrived.

To truly understand what the authors of the New Testament were writing of, you must understand not only the internal politics of Jesus's time but how those internal politics reflected with international politics. Rome did NOT view Judea as a Provence where Rome could profit, but as something Rome had to hold to protect Egypt from any Persian Invasion. It was also a lousy base to launch any attack on Persia, Syria and Asia Minor are better attack points. Thus Rome did NOT have any Roman Legions in Judea till after the 70 AD Jewish revolt. Till that time it was up to the Client Kings (such as Herod) or Roman Procurators (Roman Governors, but without Roman Troops, but such Equistatian class people could and did use Foreign Mercenaries, in the Case of Pilate, the Roman Procurator that ended up ruling Judea at the time of Jesus's death, he probably only had Greek and Jewish troops under his command). This politics is the background of Christ's story and the story of the New Testament, and politics that were still hot issues when the New Testament was written 80 AD onward (The 70 AD Jewish Revolt made these politics even more a factor, Rome even started to keep a Legion in Judea after the 70 AD Jewish Revolt).

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 06:21 PM
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15. K&R


I totally want one of those....

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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 07:03 PM
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16. Love us some Betty Bowers :)
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 03:23 PM
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22. !
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 07:56 PM
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17. Pepper spray is the new censer for the priests of the holy police state
Edited on Mon Dec-05-11 08:03 PM by stockholmer
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