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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:55 AM
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Poll question: In your opinion, which foreign leader will be forcibly removed or will resign next?
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 02:19 AM by Tx4obama
SIX leaders that were in power at the beginning of 2011 are no longer.

1) Zine El Abidine Ben Ali - Tunisia - check

2) Hosni Mubarak - Egypt - check

3) Muammar Gaddafi - Libya - check

4) Silvio Berlusconi - Italy - check

5) Georgios Papandreou - Greece - check

6) Ali Abdullah Saleh - Yemen - check

7) Who's Next - ???


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:56 AM
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1. you forgot Papandreou
and the instability is such I don't want to guess at this point.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:59 AM
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2. I went ahead and added him, and removed Jordan :) n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:15 AM
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6. No, you mistunderstood
he is already out of office, last week
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:20 AM
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7. Oops :( I've fixed it.
I guess I didn't hear about him leaving office last week, thanks.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:24 AM
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8. So many...
what can I say? It' the who's who of has been
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:02 AM
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3. The eye doctor needs to go--he makes his daddy seem benevolent. nt
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:02 AM
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4. Yep, but the military appointed a Hosni Mubarak man
in response to the recent riots. Mubarak may be gone, but his culture remains.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:11 AM
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5. In 1978 I had a Shah of Iran pool at work.
It was to pick the date the Shah would be deposed or leave the country. Alas, I ran it too soon, and time ran out so all the money was donated to a charity.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:24 AM
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9. The little French guy.
Though he's trying to get a war going with Syria to try to save his bacon.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:35 AM
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11. Nicolas Sarkozy
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 02:38 AM by Tx4obama

He's been in office since May 16, 2007
Presidents in France serve a 5-year term, so I guess there will be another election soon.



Edited to add

... the next presidential election, to be held on 22 April and 6 May 2012, the latter being used for a run-off if necessary. President Nicolas Sarkozy will be eligible to run for a second successive term during this election.






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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:11 AM
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17. I don't think getting voted out by the electorate counts
Or by a fairly typical internal party reorganisation. If it does, then there are others you need to add to the list of 'gone this year' - Zapatero of Spain, Socrates of Portugal, Cowen of Ireland, Kan of Japan, plus several more, no doubt. You did say "will be forcibly removed or will resign".
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:46 PM
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19. I was assuming Carla Bruni's husband would eventually suffer the same fate as the Italian buffoon...
...as things continue to deteriorate and France ends up in a situation similar to Italy's now.

His party will throw him to the wolves in a feeble attempt to convince prospective bond buyers (i.e. no one) that everything will be ok once a new leader (i.e. banker) replaces the Carla's husband.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 06:25 PM
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24. Yes, I know - getting voted out does NOT count
I was only posting some additional info for the other person that commented.


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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:28 AM
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10. TOON
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 04:21 AM
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12. Ireland's Enda Kenny
Ireland's Enda Kenny is head of the ruling Fine Gael party that threw out Fianna Fail and the hard times they brought in. However, Fine Gael have brought nothing but austerity themselves. I don't expect they'll last, and they might be replaced with some oddball coalition.



Ireland's Fine Gael Leader Enda Kenny
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 04:51 AM
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13. I voted for "other" 10 times, but it didn't register.
I suspect a conspiracy!!!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 06:26 AM
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14. That would be our president.
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 06:34 AM by BlueIris
I am not advocating the overthrow of our president, violent overthrow generally, anarchy or not voting for him. However, I have, for these many months, watched deeply entrenched dictators with long standing holds on their population get challenged, threatened and removed. While I am not comparing him to one of these despots, he is a relatively new leader and his control is undermined by significant factors (Tea Party, GOP resistance, Wall Street resistance.)

I think anyone who believes it can't happen here is kidding himself.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:26 AM
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16. well said....
and until most of us realize this, nothing will really change, unfortunately.
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:22 AM
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15. Angela Merkel
Germany is standing in the way of a Euro bailout fund that will transfer up to a trillion Euros to the banks. Replacing her with a more business friendly chancellor would be useful to the people who stand to profit from the failure of the Euro.
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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:15 AM
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18. Robert Mugabe
Forcibly removed by the Grim Reaper (natural causes).
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:50 PM
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20. No dictator who is an ally of the US will be removed, that's
for sure. Such as Karamov of Uzbekistan, one of our very favorite dictators.

But any leader whose country is on the PNAC list is in grave danger, ie, Syria and they appear to be being set up for the 'humanitarian' intervention Libya got and a 'privatization' of anything of value they may have.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:53 PM
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21. Mubarak's on line one with a few words to say about that. (nt)
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:44 PM
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22. Mubarak was defended by the US
until it became apparent that the Egyptian people, despite the brutality of the Mubarak regime which killed over 800 of them, were not going to go home, the US did not speak out against Mubarak.

In fact, if you go back to the beginning of the Egyptian revolution you can find eg, Joe Biden stating that 'Mubarak is NOT a dictator' and 'Mubarak is a good friend and ally of the US'. Same from other US leaders.

They did not properly judge the anger of the people, who normally do not figure in US calculations regarding our support for our dictator friends. We depend on those dictators to keep their people in line, and they usually do, as Mubarak had done, for decades.

Once it became apparent that Mubarak had lost control of the people, the US began to change its rhetoric, eventually saying that it would be best for Mubarak to step down. This was nothing more than a tactic to stop the destabilizing of a very strategic government and Mubarak, like many of our other Dictator 'friends' who became a problem in one way or another, was thrown to the wolves.

What the US wanted was to put Egypt in the hands of the Military which has close ties to DC before things got so out of hand it would be impossible to control. The people were betrayed, the US backed Military took over and eventually things went back to the way they were.

There was concern among the revolutionaries, and since the fall of Mubarak, they have discussed the fact that they probably should not have left Tahrir Sq. until the military leaders also gave up their power. Now, there is no question that their Revolution was hi-jacked with help from the Western Powers.

Heard any condemnation of the brutal tactics now being used by the Military against the protesters? I don't think we will. The strongest statement so far was of the 'moral equivalency' kind. 'Both sides need to remain peaceful. Although if the unrest continues, they will put forward someone easy manipulated and hope to fool the people once again.

El Baradei is being pushed but not popular with the people as 'he has Western advisers'.

All the Egyptians want is sovereignty and their own choice of government without any foreign intervention. But their position as a country is of too much importance to the West, so there is grave doubt they will get it, not without a lot of bloodshed anyhow.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:05 PM
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25. Neocon rhetoric is beginning to stir as well...

that dangerous Muslims want to take control, and that Egyptians are somehow innately a violent people. This is starting to look more and more like a more violent and desparate form of the OWS movement.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:35 PM
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26. Yes, it really is all so tragic, this need to control everything and
everyone. The problems are so huge, I don't know if they can be fixed, but we have to try. So many beautiful. innocent Egyptians have already lost their lives. Our government remains silent now as their allies, the treasonous, Egyptian military, continues to kill its own citizens. I guess they figure one day, they, the US Govt. may have to do the same thing if the people become too 'troublesome'. Wouldn't be the first time in history either.

The only advantage the people have is that there are more of us than there are of them.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:47 PM
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23. Hopefully, Benjamin Netanyahu.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:42 PM
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27. Well...
It's not looking good for Pakistan. And the president of Afghanistan has stopped playing ball even though we put him into power. I'm just amused it didn't take decades this time for us to make our own enemy. This has to be a record.
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