Genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) run rampant like a plague...

[1776Forever]

This Farmer’s Perspective on GMOs
by Eric on November 19, 2011

http://www.sonofafarmer.com/

..Genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) run rampant like a plague, spreading poisonous genes into food and fiber crops, livestock, wildlife, insects, birds, the soil, and unsuspecting people. We are what we eat, and we are eating toxic unnatural food contrived in laboratories by billion-dollar chemical companies. Ninety percent of American corn, cotton, canola, soybeans, and sugar beets are genetically modified today. Eighty percent of all processed foods on our grocery shelves are made with GM ingredients. Livestock are fed primarily with genetically-modified feed in feed lots and factory farms, and those malnourished, sickened cattle, pigs, and chickens are the chief source of our protein....

More alarming, studies are beginning to suggest the harmful effects of genetically-modified foods on the body and mind, such as higher rates of cancer and diabetes. Neurological disorders such as autism have risen 1200% in children since 1990. Although that rate has not yet been linked directly to GMOs, there is more than enough evidence of the threat they pose to our nation’s health and welfare....

About 50 countries have banned GMOs or required their labeling. Our country has done neither. We are poisoning ourselves. This is a slow, sluggish genocide on the American people. I, like many Americans, have to wonder is the payoff from these chemical companies so tempting that our government would rather poison its own people than provide a simple label?

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For some of us that have known about this "plague" for years this farmer is preaching to the choir, but if this is new to you and/or shows a more urgent call and doesn't get you to thinking about what we are eating for profits sake then I don't understand your views. I urge everyone to read the full article.

I know the wife of a farmer who is a hair stylist and she had told me he had been "losing" his mindset at times and stumbling when he walked. She said he was in his early 50's so it wasn't "old age". I asked her if he had worked around Monsanto seed and she told me he had sold it for years and also used it around the farm. She said she had heard something about it causing neurological issues but they had only been to their family doctor about his problems. I encouraged her to have her husband see a neurologist. I don't know what the outcome was but it would come as no surprise to me if he did have issues from being around the seed and the dust so much.

This is very important! As we all know yesterday when we said thanks for all our blessings the one you can't "buy" is your health and that goes for the 1% too!

[skepticscott]

1. Despicable scare tactics and distortion of science

More alarming, studies are beginning to suggest the harmful effects of genetically-modified foods on the body and mind, such as higher rates of cancer and diabetes. Neurological disorders such as autism have risen 1200% in children since 1990. Although that rate has not yet been linked directly to GMOs, there is more than enough evidence of the threat they pose to our nation’s health and welfare....

Have studies shown ANY actual correlation (let alone causation) between consuming GM foods and higher rates of cancer and diabetes? If so, where are they? Who did them and under what conditions? What are the causal mechanisms?

And why mention the increased rates of autism (without even acknowledging that these are rates of diagnosis, NOT incidence) in association with GM food, when it is admitted in the next sentence that there is NO connection whatsoever, other than as a cheap scare tactic, trying to get ignorant people to make an association that hasn't been shown to exist in reality?

The rest is the same, but too tiresome to keep debunking this crap.

[1776Forever]

8. Say what you will - I can't believe the naivete of some on DU to believe GMOs are a good thing......

Argentinian Doctors Identify Major Health Problems Associated With GMO Soy
Nov. 25, 2011

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/argentinian-doctors-identify-major-health-problems-associated-with-gmo-soy/

A report by Argentine physicians points to the major health problems arising from the increasing use of GM Roundup Ready (RR) soy in the country. It is the product of the 1st National Meeting Of Physicians In The Crop-Sprayed Towns organized by the Faculty of Medical Sciences at the National University of Cordoba and held in August this year. The meeting was attended by more than 160 participants from the provinces in Argentina as well as from six national universities.

Presentations and stories of the participants matched the clinical observations of a range of diseases and health conditions on people subject to Roundup herbicide sprayings. These include acute poisoning, exceptionally high incidences of miscarriages and birth defects in newborns in the crop-sprayed towns. There is also an increased detection of cancers in children and adults, and serious illnesses, such as Henoch–Schönlein purpura, toxic liver disease, and neurological disorders.

The physicians, many of whom have served for more than 25 years, found that such health problems were quite unusual and strictly linked to systemic sprayings of pesticides. The report also contains a lot of details about DNA damage, confirming laboratory research on glyphosate and its breakdown product AMPA, and neurological development problems.

The report can be downloaded from: http://www.reduas.fcm.unc.edu.ar/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=34

.......

AND:

8 Reasons Genetically Modified Organisms are Bad for You
Written by Shilo Urban

http://www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/eight-reasons-gmos-are-bad-for-you.html

..The bottom line is that genetically modified organisms have not been proven in any way to be safe, and most of the studies are actually leaning the other direction, which is why many of the world’s countries have banned these items whose DNA has been genetically engineered. In America, they aren’t even labeled, much less banned, so the majority of the populace has no idea that they are eating lab-created DNA on a daily basis.

...

AND:

GMO foods linked to digestive problems and ecosystem destruction
Date: 09 October 2011

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/health/2011/10/09/1017.html

What are the harmful effects of GMOs to our health and the health of the planet?

...When talking about human health, we’re still very much guinea pigs as far as long-term effects. But many studies already show many negative side effects on our organs, particularly our digestive system. I can’t imagine how many neurological disorders will continue to rise as a direct result from further GMO exposure. Essentially, we’re eating fake food… even poison in the form of food. It’s not real. In livestock, who consume much more GMOs than we do, studies have shown high rates of SDS (sudden death syndrome), high infertility rates, and premature death in foetus and baby animals. In nature, this stuff can react or act as a poison. We have no idea how many different reactions can happen yet. We’re still learning… not comforting facts. There have been direct studies that the use of Roundup Ready GM crops are decimating the monarch butterfly population. Studies also show that when three consecutive generations of mammals consume an all-GMO diet, they can no longer produce another generation. That should scare the hell out of us.

(more at link)

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Believe what you will.........

[skepticscott]

17. Very telling that the first thing you cite

is not a study showing that eating GMO foods is harmful, but that the HERBICIDES sprayed on them are harmful to humans if they ingest too much. Well, duh. But just more cheap scare tactics without any demonstrated causal connections to what you're talking about.

[kickysnana]

19. Dementia in our large extended family before the last 2 years 2

Now we have 4, one recently died (and I am not so sure about myself. LOL)

[skepticscott]

23. So what exactly does this have to do

with GM foods? How do you know it isn't because the people in your family are getting older? Or because of the increase in teen vampire dramas?

[kickysnana]

25. Because nobody in our family watches teen vampire movies so I know that is not the cause.

[Atman]

2. While I loathe Monsanto and GMO's, this article is long on hysteria but short on facts.

A fifty year old farmer starts stumbling, but claims it can't be just because he's getting old -- yet no real tie-in is offered, just that he farmed with genetically modified seed. So now mere contact causes disorders? Autism rates have risen 1900% since 1990, but absolutely no connection to GMO's is even attempted.

As I said, I think we're playing with fire here. We're fucking with nature, and that never seems to work out. But just throwing out random statistics and anecdotes without establishing any cause and effect amounts to nothing but blatant fear-mongering.

[inademv]

5. Which GMO crops are you opposed to exactly? n/t

[1776Forever]

9. Read on...

Argentinian Doctors Identify Major Health Problems Associated With GMO Soy
Nov. 25, 2011

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/argentinian-doctors-identify-major-health-problems-associated-with-gmo-soy/

A report by Argentine physicians points to the major health problems arising from the increasing use of GM Roundup Ready (RR) soy in the country. It is the product of the 1st National Meeting Of Physicians In The Crop-Sprayed Towns organized by the Faculty of Medical Sciences at the National University of Cordoba and held in August this year. The meeting was attended by more than 160 participants from the provinces in Argentina as well as from six national universities.

Presentations and stories of the participants matched the clinical observations of a range of diseases and health conditions on people subject to Roundup herbicide sprayings. These include acute poisoning, exceptionally high incidences of miscarriages and birth defects in newborns in the crop-sprayed towns. There is also an increased detection of cancers in children and adults, and serious illnesses, such as Henoch–Schönlein purpura, toxic liver disease, and neurological disorders.

The physicians, many of whom have served for more than 25 years, found that such health problems were quite unusual and strictly linked to systemic sprayings of pesticides. The report also contains a lot of details about DNA damage, confirming laboratory research on glyphosate and its breakdown product AMPA, and neurological development problems.

The report can be downloaded from: http://www.reduas.fcm.unc.edu.ar/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=34

.......

AND:

8 Reasons Genetically Modified Organisms are Bad for You
Written by Shilo Urban

http://www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/eight-reasons-gmos-are-bad-for-you.html

..The bottom line is that genetically modified organisms have not been proven in any way to be safe, and most of the studies are actually leaning the other direction, which is why many of the world’s countries have banned these items whose DNA has been genetically engineered. In America, they aren’t even labeled, much less banned, so the majority of the populace has no idea that they are eating lab-created DNA on a daily basis.

...

AND:

GMO foods linked to digestive problems and ecosystem destruction
Date: 09 October 2011

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/health/2011/10/09/1017.html

What are the harmful effects of GMOs to our health and the health of the planet?

...When talking about human health, we’re still very much guinea pigs as far as long-term effects. But many studies already show many negative side effects on our organs, particularly our digestive system. I can’t imagine how many neurological disorders will continue to rise as a direct result from further GMO exposure. Essentially, we’re eating fake food… even poison in the form of food. It’s not real. In livestock, who consume much more GMOs than we do, studies have shown high rates of SDS (sudden death syndrome), high infertility rates, and premature death in foetus and baby animals. In nature, this stuff can react or act as a poison. We have no idea how many different reactions can happen yet. We’re still learning… not comforting facts. There have been direct studies that the use of Roundup Ready GM crops are decimating the monarch butterfly population. Studies also show that when three consecutive generations of mammals consume an all-GMO diet, they can no longer produce another generation. That should scare the hell out of us.

(more at link)

............

Believe what you will.........

[1776Forever]

13. There are MANY studies out there - I just told of one of my experiences with it from a personal

perspective. Don't be so nasty with your replies!

Here!

Argentinian Doctors Identify Major Health Problems Associated With GMO Soy
November 25, 2011

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/argentinian-doctors-identify-major-health-problems-associated-with-gmo-soy/

[Peace Patriot]

3. "is the payoff from these chemical companies so tempting that our government would rather poison...

...its own people than provide a simple label?"

I think this is the wrong question. You can't ask moral questions of corporations nor of a government run by corporations. They do not respond to moral arguments. And if you frame the question in moral terms--even just for the sake of educating the public--I think you are misdirecting the public's energies, not deliberately but by default.

The public needs to think about POWER--and in very practical and strategic terms. For instance, getting rid of the corporate-run 'TRADE SECRET' voting systems, spread all over the U.S. during the 2002 to 2004 period, will likely do more to curtail GMOs in the food chain that any effort to embarrass government officials who are permitting the poisoning of our people. You have to REMOVE those officials! How to do that? That is what we should be discussing.

I applaud the article writers, researchers, farmers and others who have brought this matter to our attention. It is an extremely important one. But it risks being "just another problem we can't solve" if we don't address the PRACTICAL issue of power and how power manifests in a corporate state to overturn the will of the people. Where does our sovereign power as a people reside? How to get it back?

[Ian David]

4. We are all dumber now for having read that. n/t

[1776Forever]

10. Read on - dumber only if you choose to be dumber..........

Argentinian Doctors Identify Major Health Problems Associated With GMO Soy
Nov. 25, 2011

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/argentinian-doctors-identify-major-health-problems-associated-with-gmo-soy/

A report by Argentine physicians points to the major health problems arising from the increasing use of GM Roundup Ready (RR) soy in the country. It is the product of the 1st National Meeting Of Physicians In The Crop-Sprayed Towns organized by the Faculty of Medical Sciences at the National University of Cordoba and held in August this year. The meeting was attended by more than 160 participants from the provinces in Argentina as well as from six national universities.

Presentations and stories of the participants matched the clinical observations of a range of diseases and health conditions on people subject to Roundup herbicide sprayings. These include acute poisoning, exceptionally high incidences of miscarriages and birth defects in newborns in the crop-sprayed towns. There is also an increased detection of cancers in children and adults, and serious illnesses, such as Henoch–Schönlein purpura, toxic liver disease, and neurological disorders.

The physicians, many of whom have served for more than 25 years, found that such health problems were quite unusual and strictly linked to systemic sprayings of pesticides. The report also contains a lot of details about DNA damage, confirming laboratory research on glyphosate and its breakdown product AMPA, and neurological development problems.

The report can be downloaded from: http://www.reduas.fcm.unc.edu.ar/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=34

.......

AND:

8 Reasons Genetically Modified Organisms are Bad for You
Written by Shilo Urban

http://www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/eight-reasons-gmos-are-bad-for-you.html

..The bottom line is that genetically modified organisms have not been proven in any way to be safe, and most of the studies are actually leaning the other direction, which is why many of the world’s countries have banned these items whose DNA has been genetically engineered. In America, they aren’t even labeled, much less banned, so the majority of the populace has no idea that they are eating lab-created DNA on a daily basis.

...

AND:

GMO foods linked to digestive problems and ecosystem destruction
Date: 09 October 2011

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/health/2011/10/09/1017.html

What are the harmful effects of GMOs to our health and the health of the planet?

...When talking about human health, we’re still very much guinea pigs as far as long-term effects. But many studies already show many negative side effects on our organs, particularly our digestive system. I can’t imagine how many neurological disorders will continue to rise as a direct result from further GMO exposure. Essentially, we’re eating fake food… even poison in the form of food. It’s not real. In livestock, who consume much more GMOs than we do, studies have shown high rates of SDS (sudden death syndrome), high infertility rates, and premature death in foetus and baby animals. In nature, this stuff can react or act as a poison. We have no idea how many different reactions can happen yet. We’re still learning… not comforting facts. There have been direct studies that the use of Roundup Ready GM crops are decimating the monarch butterfly population. Studies also show that when three consecutive generations of mammals consume an all-GMO diet, they can no longer produce another generation. That should scare the hell out of us.

(more at link)

............

Believe what you will.........

[Ian David]

14. You realize that every source you cites is someone that fingerpaints with their own poo, right? n/t

[dixiegrrrrl]

6. The GMO issue is important, but this type of article

does nothing to support the validity of arguments against GMO products.

[1776Forever]

11. Why? Did it say it too graphically for you? Try these........

Argentinian Doctors Identify Major Health Problems Associated With GMO Soy
Nov. 25, 2011

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/argentinian-doctors-identify-major-health-problems-associated-with-gmo-soy/

A report by Argentine physicians points to the major health problems arising from the increasing use of GM Roundup Ready (RR) soy in the country. It is the product of the 1st National Meeting Of Physicians In The Crop-Sprayed Towns organized by the Faculty of Medical Sciences at the National University of Cordoba and held in August this year. The meeting was attended by more than 160 participants from the provinces in Argentina as well as from six national universities.

Presentations and stories of the participants matched the clinical observations of a range of diseases and health conditions on people subject to Roundup herbicide sprayings. These include acute poisoning, exceptionally high incidences of miscarriages and birth defects in newborns in the crop-sprayed towns. There is also an increased detection of cancers in children and adults, and serious illnesses, such as Henoch–Schönlein purpura, toxic liver disease, and neurological disorders.

The physicians, many of whom have served for more than 25 years, found that such health problems were quite unusual and strictly linked to systemic sprayings of pesticides. The report also contains a lot of details about DNA damage, confirming laboratory research on glyphosate and its breakdown product AMPA, and neurological development problems.

The report can be downloaded from: http://www.reduas.fcm.unc.edu.ar/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=34

.......

AND:

8 Reasons Genetically Modified Organisms are Bad for You
Written by Shilo Urban

http://www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/eight-reasons-gmos-are-bad-for-you.html

..The bottom line is that genetically modified organisms have not been proven in any way to be safe, and most of the studies are actually leaning the other direction, which is why many of the world’s countries have banned these items whose DNA has been genetically engineered. In America, they aren’t even labeled, much less banned, so the majority of the populace has no idea that they are eating lab-created DNA on a daily basis.

...

AND:

GMO foods linked to digestive problems and ecosystem destruction
Date: 09 October 2011

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/health/2011/10/09/1017.html

What are the harmful effects of GMOs to our health and the health of the planet?

...When talking about human health, we’re still very much guinea pigs as far as long-term effects. But many studies already show many negative side effects on our organs, particularly our digestive system. I can’t imagine how many neurological disorders will continue to rise as a direct result from further GMO exposure. Essentially, we’re eating fake food… even poison in the form of food. It’s not real. In livestock, who consume much more GMOs than we do, studies have shown high rates of SDS (sudden death syndrome), high infertility rates, and premature death in foetus and baby animals. In nature, this stuff can react or act as a poison. We have no idea how many different reactions can happen yet. We’re still learning… not comforting facts. There have been direct studies that the use of Roundup Ready GM crops are decimating the monarch butterfly population. Studies also show that when three consecutive generations of mammals consume an all-GMO diet, they can no longer produce another generation. That should scare the hell out of us.

(more at link)

............

Believe what you will.........

[ensho]

7. true - the Barons win again

nt

[1776Forever]

12. Thank you - the Barons are winning - And it will be proven soon. n/t

[Marrah_G]

15. Zombies..........

[Bryn]

16. GMO is banned in Europe

so why are we being such a bonehead here in USA?

[bvar22]

18. Insufficient testing of Long Term Environmental...

..and Health effects makes them a BIG problem.

Despite the claims of the Marketing Departments of the GM substitutes,
these "innovative modifications" have NOT been tested,
but have been approved through a loophole created BY Monsanto lobbyists in Washington.
Non-Scientist Politicians (on the Monsanto Payroll?) have deemed GM Crops as
"NOT sufficiently different from natural organisms to require testing"!!!
So the doorway to Genetically Modified anything without testing is WIDE-Fucking-Open.
No Joke.


ALL GM crops are Invasive Species,
and until the long term data is available,
I can't support them.
The potential for widespread disaster may be small,
but it IS very real.

GM seeds and crops,
along with Chem based (non naturally occurring) Pesticides, Herbicides, and Fertilizers
are banned from our home and gardens.
We are far enough away from any Commercial Agriculture to be safe from wind born contamination for now,
but who knows about the future? :shrug:
We don't want them.
We don't TRUST them,
and we should NOT be forced to allow our food source to become contaminated by them.

If YOU trust Monsanto, then I guess you have nothing to worry about.
Monsanto would never do anything to harm you just to make a few bucks, would they?

...and our Media would warn you about any risks, wouldn't they?

...and out politicians in Washington certainly protect your best interests, don't they?

...And the USDA will look out for you too, and not just the Profit margins of Large Corporations and campaign contributors,... right?
(Google: "Vilsack ties to Monsanto)


...and our politicians would certainly make labeling of GM food products Mandatory, right?
We certainly have a Right to Know, don't we?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqaaB6NE1TI&feature=player_embedded



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
Solidarity99!
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[Divine Discontent]

20. I sure as hell don't want gentically altered food... mmm, yummy, swallow it all down with Rumsfeld's

sweet poison! tasty!



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[skepticscott]

24. Here's a news flash

Pretty much all the food you eat has been genetically altered in one way or another. It's been going on for thousands of years.

[Trillo]

21. lots of results

In conclusion, our findings indicate that the true gene transfer rates in vivo are higher than the rates determined in vitro, which means that there are indigenous effects in the GI tract that promote a higher rate of transfer than the rate observed in vitro. Similar “hot spots” for gene transfer have been identified in the environment (for example, the bean phylloplane <9>) and are characterized by the availability of nutrients and high bacterial densities.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC91691/

While PCR analysis of DNA extracted directly from soil enabled specific and sensitive detection of transgenic DNA in soil, detection of horizontal gene transfer events is difficult due to the limitations of the techniques currently available. Unequivocal proof of horizontal gene transfer from plants to bacteria requires the isolation of the putative transformants for thorough genetic characterization. However, the strategy to monitor the transfer of complete genes or larger DNA fragments might fail because transformation often involves the stable integration of short DNA fragments resulting in gene mosaics <44>. Based on sequence comparisons, it has been assumed that horizontal gene transfer from plants to bacteria might have occurred during evolution <45–47>. The presence of bacterial genes, promoters, terminators, or origins of vegetative replication in transgenic plants will enhance the probability of stable integration of DNA stretches based on recombination events <10, 11, 28>. The lack of information on the abundance of naturally competent bacteria in the environment, frequencies of transformation processes and environmental factors triggering these processes currently still impairs predictions of the extent of horizontal gene transfer from plants to bacteria.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1574-6941.1999.tb00581.x/full

Just a snippet:

In three of the seven ileostomy subjects, about 1 to 3 per million bacteria cultured from the
contents of the colostomy bag were positive for the GM soya transgene, indicating that
horizontal transfer of transgenic DNA had occurred,

http://polska-wolna-od-gmo.org/doc/Horizontal_gene_transfer_from_GMOs_does_happen.f.pdf">PDF

Edited to add (like I said, lots of results):

As genetically modified (GM) foods are starting to intrude in our diet concerns have been expressed regarding GM food safety. These concerns as well as the limitations of the procedures followed in the evaluation of their safety are presented. Animal toxicity studies with certain GM foods have shown that they may toxically affect several organs and systems. The review of these studies should not be conducted separately for each GM food, but according to the effects exerted on certain organs it may help us create a better picture of the possible health effects on human beings. The results of most studies with GM foods indicate that they may cause some common toxic effects such as hepatic, pancreatic, renal, or reproductive effects and may alter the hematological, biochemical, and immunologic parameters. However, many years of research with animals and clinical trials are required for this assessment. The use of recombinant GH or its expression in animals should be re-examined since it has been shown that it increases IGF-1 which may promote cancer.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10408390701855993

[1776Forever]

22. Thank you for that - Yes the report was very detailed. Good job! n/t