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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:10 PM
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Motherfuckers.
Video shows office pepper-spraying protesters at UC Davis



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/video-shows-of...

Watch the video if you haven't seen it already.

Motherfuckers.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:14 PM
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1. I couldn't bear to watch it again. As Chris Hayes said, "like spraying cockroaches" nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:47 PM
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53. Looks like the SS in Nazi Germany delighted in "Spraying the Jews."
Sorry...I can't get over this. I think a younger generation didn't grow up with the horrors of what happened to the Jews when the Nazi's took power in Germany.

There isn't anyone telling them what happened ...except a bunch of NeoCons who want to BOMB IRAN...when they KNOW NOTHING but are just Zionists looking to avenge some DREAM they have about Israel!

I would hope that Norman Podhoretz, William Chrystal, etc. and their fellows at AIPAC and the rest of those who've been fighting to get Iran bombed will WAKE UP and realize that THIS ISN'T THEIR AMERICA to be used as a TOOL for their own Ambitions. "I" am an American, too...and sick of this shit by this Think Tank and the Others who support these people who just want ENDLESS WAR...WAR THAT CREATES AMERICAN EMPIRE...which will be DOOMED to FAIL...as all other Empires which have gone before.

America is on the skids! Protest Movements all over the USA and Globally and these Neo-Con/Neo-Libs still think "THEY RULE THE WORLD...AND....WALL STREET CRIME?

:cry:
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:14 PM
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2. scum
nt
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:30 PM
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40. HEY! that was once a Fetus you are spraying. nt
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #40
47. LOL of the day! n/t
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:01 AM
Response to Reply #40
76. The fetus was born, though
Once the fetus is born, it loses all fetus rights.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #40
91. You win the award!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #40
128. +1000
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:17 PM
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64. fatherfucker. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:15 PM
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3. Assault & Battery usually is thought to be a crime.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:16 PM
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6. How can they get away this this aggression?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:27 PM
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38. Because We the People allow it. (NT)
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #38
62. I hope we stop this...NOW
Are we or are we not the 99%...
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Magoo48 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #38
100. Exactly...
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #38
136. Is that We the People or We the People(TM)? n/t
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:10 AM
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116. because there were a lot of folks who thought it was a good idea
to give up freedoms and liberty for security. This is where that road led. They didn't think that the police here would do this to unarmed, peaceful protesters--they thought they would do this to those brown skinned people with funny names who pray to the east.

This is what happens when you allow yourself to get hoodwinked into thinking that giving up your constitutional rights means that you will be safe, because the thugs who will beat your ass are those who are sworn to serve and protect you.

And the "you" in this are the legion of fox news watching nimrods out there during the past 12 years who saw no problem with the erosion of everyone's civil liberties and freedoms in exchange for a nanny state where the Constitution has been usurped by the protecters and servers of the 1%.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #116
121. That was awesome
well said.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #116
124. If only this were a new phenomenon
The Molly Maguires and Bull Connor and Chicago '68 and thousands of other examples of the police being employed to brutalize dissent happened long before anyone uttered the words Patriot act.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 07:56 AM
Response to Reply #124
170. the people to whom I refer in this video can't remember that far back
and weren't paying attention in school when this subject matter was covered--if it was even covered at all, so yeah, it's a new phenomenon with them.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #3
69. unless you are a cop...
then it is a paid administrative leave
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:33 PM
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125. I'd call it GBH - Grievous Bodily Harm.
But then I'm English so that's the difference. Either way those "law enforcement officers" were certainly in my mind using means to illegally enforce a law that is highly doubtful as being broken.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:15 PM
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4. Outrageous. That picture (and the video) is SO telling about the state of affiars. nt
PB
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:46 PM
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52. Well, the locals seem to have decided how they will deal with constitutionally-protected
freedoms which should not be surprising considering that a sitting president has said the Constitution is just a piece of paper. The picture and video depict actions symbolically pissing on that piece of paper. :patriot:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:15 PM
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5. The dox is up. Call Davis and report the crime.
Call the regents and tell them they need to resign.

Call somebody. :)
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:19 PM
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7. Pathetic bastards are nothing but bullies. nt

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #7
92. Fascism cannot exist where there is an absence of bullies.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:20 PM
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8. I salute the few and the brave who refused to move.
We need to be the many and the unbelievably brave if we intend to win.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:27 PM
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9. Yes they are.
Make it viral. K & R.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:27 PM
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10. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator.
 
shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. You are totally missing the point of non violent protest.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:33 PM
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14. the point of nonviolence is to lose a dispute without fighting back.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:38 PM
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15. The point of nonviolence is to show to the world exactly what your enemy is...
...and strip away the happy-face excuses they have for what they do.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:10 PM
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36. +1,000
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #15
70. well, since +1000 has been done...
+2000
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:57 AM
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73. Deleted message
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #73
87. Gandhi won.
"A pioneer of satyagraha, or resistance to tyranny through mass civil disobediencea philosophy firmly founded upon ahimsa, or total nonviolenceGandhi led India to independence and inspired movements for civil rights and freedom across the world."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi

Nonviolence DOES work. If not for the agent provocateurs that have been causing trouble through violence against the wishes of the nonviolent protesters in OWS, OWS could have the same exact power as Gandhi's nonviolence...and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s nonviolence...and many others who have used nonviolence.

Nonviolence IS powerful and CAN win.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #87
102. While I agree with you, I'd point out that both Ghandi and King were assassinated.
Perhaps it's a wise thing OWS has no defined leader(s).
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #102
107. They achieved their goals through nonviolence first though. n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #107
146. It can be efficacious.
But there is fallout.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #102
113. So did Julius Caesar and Abraham Lincoln who
never lost a war using the traditional means.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #113
145. Caesar and Lincoln were by no means non-violent.
:shrug:

War defined their histories. :shrug:
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #145
164. Oops, sorry.
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 09:24 AM by Shining Jack
What I said was related to post 73 and I can't remember what it was so my reply is even confusing to me. :)
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #73
111. Really?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:07 AM
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85. True.
Gandhi was a master at it. These students seem to be too. They stayed nonviolent in the face of some extreme unwarranted aggression. More power to them.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #15
93. Plus one!
The world knows what is going on with Occupy. But unfortunately U.S. citizens are kept in the dark through the corporate media meme.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
141. Yes, and I'd say that the young students at UC Davis accomplished their goal!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:38 PM
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16. Dupe
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 03:39 PM by JHB
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:40 PM
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grrr...
what fighting back would you suggest against this state? Which weapons of choice would you bear against the premier military force on this planet?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:02 AM
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77. how's nonviolence working out for the Syrians?
How did it work out for the Egyptians?

on the other hand, how did using violence work out for the rebel Libyans?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #77
104. We know what you are against, what do you propose? nm
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:52 PM
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23. Lose? Really?
Agent Mike is that you? :eyes:

The point of nonviolence is to WIN a despute without fighing back...you might want to edit that word to reflect the truth.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:57 AM
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74. you can't name a single dispute won with nonviolence. Not one.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:22 AM
Response to Reply #74
80. Sure I can.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi

Check this guy out, you will be amazed at what he did.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:46 PM
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154. as I have stated several times, he threatened violence against the British
he also proposed an alliance with the Japanese empire. His nonviolence tactics completely failed in South Africa, as he himself admitted, and your own link claims.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #154
157. It doesn't say that at all at the link, stop lying just because
people are calling you on your own bullshit.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 02:53 AM
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158. read your own link, you twit. Here's the relevant quote even:
"After long deliberations, Gandhi declared that India could not be party to a war ostensibly being fought for democratic freedom, while that freedom was denied to India itself. As the war progressed, Gandhi intensified his demand for independence, drafting a resolution calling for the British to Quit India. This was Gandhi's and the Congress Party's most definitive revolt aimed at securing the British exit from India.<48>"

The Quit India movement spawned the Indian National Army, which conducted a violent guerilla campaign in collaboration with the Japanese empire to expel the British.
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Balderdash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #74
108. Are you kidding?
Martin Luther King. Ghandi. The Vietnam War.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #108
126. Poland East Germany Hungary Czechoslovakia Ukraine ...
the entire eastern block including the USSR collapsed in an almost completely non-violent revolution.

Tunisia and Egypt just recently.

The list goes on.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #126
150. USSR had tank fire at the Kremlin. How is that nonviolent?
Romanian dictator Ceaucescu was publicly hanged, after 2000 people were killed in Timosoara by the regime. There was no opposition to the East German, Czech, or Ukrainian governments, so that's an irrelevant point.

In Tunisia, we have a military dictatorship brought in by the "nonviolent"; in Egypt, we have shootings in the street as we speak, by both sides.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 07:25 AM
Response to Reply #150
162. About that "Tank Fire" - that was the state - the former state.
The USSR collapsed and dissolved almost entirely without violence from either side. And I don't see Romania on my list, although despite hanging Ceacescu their revolution was largely nonviolent too. Certainly nonviolent resistance does not guarantee that the state will not use violence against us. Where did you get that idea?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #162
167. so now you resort to "largely nonviolent". Way to move the goalposts, bub.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #167
168. whatever.
No the goalposts have not been moved. The list of soviet block countries that overthrew their regimes without any violence by either side is rather long, and of course violence by the state against a non-violent resistance movement does not even matter here, was Gandhi's movement disqualified as non-violent by the British violence against it?

The best you have done is to cite the execution of Ceaușescu and the brief aborted effort of the Communist Party to rally the army to its side in Moscow. You have proven my point, bub.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #150
166. Ceaucescu and his wife were both executed by firing squad
after a perfunctory and very brief trial. They were guilty as hell and everyone in Romania knew it.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #150
169. Ceausescu and his wife were shot by a firing squad
comprised of paratroopers.

And there was open opposition to the East German/Honecker government in its waning days:

"Having lost the support of the reform-minded Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, the aged and inflexible Honecker was forced to resign in October 1989 when confronted with massive prodemocracy demonstrations in East German cities."

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/270825/Erich-...

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #108
151. MLK failed in Alabama, as he himself admitted.
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 09:48 PM by provis99
Bull Connor managed to keep the prisons full, so the protests petered out. His nonviolence tactics also failed in Memphis, as he got shot there. Gandhi won by threatening Britain with violence, which you would not if you had bothered to read the post you were responding to. And Vietnam War protests were nonviolent? Give me a break; there were riots throughout hundreds of American cities.
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TriplD Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #74
122. Milosevic stepped down becaues of the mass protests
It's all about legitimacy. He knew his government lost legitimacy and was wise enough to step down while he still had that option.

Our oligarchy is quickly losing it's legitimacy precisely because they are beating non-violent protesters.

We win when our government starts taking steps to regain it's legitimacy by addressing the problems being protested.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #122
152. Milosevic was ovethrown by a military coup.
the military refused to support his presidency anymore.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #74
140. That is not your original assertion.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #14
139. No, the point is NOT "TO LOSE A DISPUTE" at ALL. Good grief.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #139
156. nonviolence has always resulted in its practicioners losing.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. and when they bring out the
bigger weapons?
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. Here's what would happen at that point
People would be forced to start ambushing the thug cops individually when they least expect it. The cops really need to back off, before they push people into fighting them in a way that they can't defend themselves against.

They should leave non-violent protestors alone, because history has proven that the people will always win. If they force people into violence, they will be the ones to lose.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #17
37. american cops seem to be really militarized in every way but discipline
iow they seem to be more individualized and capricious, and it's super easy to set them off.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. violence = FAIL
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. that's not always true
if violence always equaled "FAIL" then why do the authorities rely on it in so much? for example, police have license to use physical aggression to "maintain order" or whatever and it seems to work for them.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #24
88. Just because "authorities" use it so much, does not mean
they succeeded. It all depends on the goal and the end result.

There is a difference between what happens when one country or group of people set out with the goal of exerting dominance over the other group of people. The goal there was never to win hearts and minds. Therefore, they can exert dominance over the other group of people all day long. They just create more enemies and dominate those enemies. That is why war is bullshit. It doesn't really "win" anything. It just exerts dominance over a group of people and makes them hate you more.

Nonviolence is usually used with the goal of showing the unwarranted violence of the other side. In the face of their violence, you practice nonviolence to show everyone who the real bad guys are. The UC Davis students have succeeded in that goal.

Violence begets more violence. Nonviolence, when practiced like it was at UC Davis, wins.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #10
21. Yeah. Gandhi should have kicked some ass too (nt)
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your point...
..but I always like to remind people that Gandhi protested against a more-or-less civilized oppressor. If Gandhi would have protested in Czarist Russia or the Soviet Union or some others we know.... well, Gandhi would not be a recognized name. He'd have been buried in a swamp somewhere.

My point being... nonviolence only works in the right circumstance. The French needed violence to overthrow the monarchy, and the colonies needed violence to break away from Britain. Violence freed Europe in the last century.

I'm not a pro-violence person, but it seems we are a violent species.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:10 PM
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28. L-O-L if you think the behavior of the british in their colonies was "civilized"
and L-O-L even harder if you think the british empire was more benevolent than the soviet union
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:39 PM
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42. They let Ghandi live - there were no mass graves full of unknown Indians. nt
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:10 PM
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43. otoh there were dozens of famines under british rule
that were direct result of grain requisitions, taxes, "free trade" etc. tens of millions of people died. these were famines that were going on well into the 20th century, so it's not like they were lost in the fog of history. one happened as recently as 1943
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:13 PM
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44. But Gandhi won.
you think for a second the Soviets would have let him win? He would have been dead as soon as he was recognized as a threat. Why did the British let Gandhi live?

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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:20 PM
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45. he didnt win anything. the british left because of (1) US pressure to decolonize after the war
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 07:22 PM by BOG PERSON
and (2) the bombay mutiny, which gandhi was opposed to

as for the soviet union, they would have thrown gandhi in a mental institution where belonged - where he could drink his own pee without bothering anybody.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:02 PM
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58. So Gandhi was a pee drinking mental case? OK. nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:30 AM
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89. You think Gandhi belonged in a mental institution?
:wtf:

That is preposterous.

You need to read more about him and how he succeeded in his goal.

I assure you he did NOT belong in a mental institution.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:28 AM
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118. listen:
gandhi is not the reason the british left india. world war II is. india did not gain independence because of the tactics of one individual, it gained independence because, in the aftermath of the biggest war in history, the british could no longer afford to sustain a formal empire.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:39 PM
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127. OMFG you know nothing!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre

The Jallianwala Bagh was bounded on all sides by houses and buildings and had few narrow entrances, most of which were kept permanently locked. The main entrance was relatively wider, but was guarded by the troops backed by the armoured vehicles. General Dyer ordered troops to begin shooting without warning or any order to disperse, and to direct shooting towards the densest sections of the crowd. He continued the shooting, approximately 1,650 rounds in all, until the ammunition supply was almost exhausted.
Apart from the many deaths directly from the shooting, a number of people died in stampedes at the narrow gates or by jumping into the solitary well on the compound to escape the shooting. A plaque in the monument at the site, set up after independence, says that 120 bodies were pulled out of the well.
The wounded could not be moved from where they had fallen, as a curfew had been declared many more died during the night.
The number of deaths caused by the shooting is disputed. While the official figure given by the British inquiry into the massacre is 379 deaths, the method used by the inquiry has been subject to criticism. In July 1919, three months after the massacre, officials were tasked with finding who had been killed by inviting inhabitants of the city to volunteer information about those who had died.<21> This information was likely incomplete due to fear that those who participated would be identified as having been present at the meeting, and some of the dead may not have had close relations in the area.<22> Additionally, a senior civil servant in the Punjab interviewed by the members of the committee admitted that the actual figure could be higher.<23>
Since the official figures were likely flawed considering the size of the crowd (15,00020,000), number of rounds shot and period of shooting, the politically interested Indian National Congress instituted a separate inquiry of its own, with conclusions that differed considerably from the Government's. The casualty number quoted by the INC was more than 1,500, with approximately 1,000 killed.<24> Despite the Government's best efforts to suppress information of the massacre, news spread elsewhere in India and widespread outrage ensued; however, the details of the massacre did not become known in Britain until December 1919.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:15 PM
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32. That's why the Libyans went violent
And now the Syrians. And honestly I'm surprised the people in Bahrain haven't gone violent.

For now, at this point here in the US, I think Gandhi's tactics will work. When they bring out the live ammunition and the homeland special rendition and start killing and torturing us, then things might change. But who knows - it might not get to that point. The only thing I feel really able to predict about it is that resistance will grow, and that we will most likely win. Not at all sure of how we'll get there, though.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:12 PM
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29. n/m
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 04:16 PM by BOG PERSON
NEVERMIND
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:01 AM
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75. Gandhi won because he threatened Britain with violence.
If you claim to know something about Gandhi, you should know that he threatened to ally himself with the Japanese imperialists against Britain, whereupon Britain immediately promised India sovereignty after the war if Gandhi and India stayed loyal to Britain during the war.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:58 AM
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106. You are saying that Gandhi specifically threatened violence? Or he was going to help the Japanese?
They arent the same.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:38 PM
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149. yes, they are.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:08 AM
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115. Please provide a link to show that Gandhi said he would ally with Japanese imperialists
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 11:15 AM by baldguy
Against British imperialists. Or that he threatened to, or encouraged his followers to engage in violence against the British in support of the Japanese.

His objective was independence for India, and he was more than politically savvy enough to realize that exchanging one set of overlords for another wouldn't further that goal.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:42 PM
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138. You mean as in the film Gandhi II???


You know, that series you may have watched on U62 some years ago???

(yep, a joke, sarcasm if you must..)
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:31 PM
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13. It is going viral.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:41 PM
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19. These young people have all my admiration.

The thing is that pepper spray down the throat can actually kill - some of these kids were coughing up blood still hours later.

Is it a police state yet?

We read in the SF Bay Guardian that PERF is coordinating the multiple-city police crackdown on OWS and protesters, that they put out "teaching" videos and tips to police forces for how to use weapons of force, for how to handle terrorists, and how to arm up and militarize your police force. We read that Chuck Wexler is an advisor to Homeland security and sits high up in PERF.

Homeland Security Advisory Council Members
Chuck Wexler, Executive Director, Police Executive Research Forum


I AM OUTRAGED BY THIS!

The parents and friends and family of these unbelievably sainted students (and sorry, but the parents are probably the tuition check-writers too) need to go sit on the sidewalks at this EXACT SPOT at this school, and let's see how it goes for the campus police after that!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:46 PM
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20. They sat there and took it.
May be time to rethink your plans if they know it is coming and they take it like that. What do they intend to accomplish if their targets don't move? Do they think this is going to make them compliant little sheep?

To the poster above who suggested they spray back....that is what the 1% and the cops are hoping for. That is when we lose. That violence thing is the cops home territory and we lose badly when we fight them there. They are waging a peaceful battle, much easier to fight but here they are doing the hardest thing imaginable. The win will be far more lasting and inspiring to generations to come.


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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:49 PM
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22. That guy with the mace...he represents the 1%
and what they do to the working class everFUCKINGday.

FUCK YOU...that should make another million people join in!

KEEP IT UP PIGS!

Some are cops and some are fucking scumbag PIGS.

COPS...you should be ashamed of this man.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 11:54 PM
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71. "Some are cops and some are fucking scumbag PIGS."
they are all pigs. When one cop gets caught doing wrong, instead of policing their own ranks, they circle wagons. They are all complicit.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:59 PM
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25. Couldn't Agree More... K & R !!!
:mad:

:nuke:

:wtf:

:kick:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:01 PM
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27. William, have you seen the end of the video? They make the cops back the fuck up.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:22 AM
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96. The one you posted is
(I am really providing the link for others in the thread--obviously you have a link!)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

The one Will posted was only a couple of minutes.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:05 PM
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143. That's right, we shouldn't glorify what the police did...

focusing on the violence will just get people angry and arguing over whether we need to get violent back. Masses of people acting in lockstep can achieve great things, we're barely getting started!

The important thing about the video (linked to below) is that the students intimidated the cops at the end. Nonviolence works when there are sufficient numbers!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:13 PM
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30. Calling lt. John Pike a Motherfucker is too kind...
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 04:15 PM by Pachamama
Watching him pacing back and forth looking down at the students with their heads bowed and then having him smirk and "present" the pepper spray canister like a Sommelier about to present a fine wine and then spraying it into their faces in a close sweeping motion was disgusting, cowardly, sadistic and frankly I think criminal. My daughter started crying when she saw this on the news and shouted "But this is America!"....

This sadistic bastard should be fired and never be allowed to be in a community policing and law enforcement position ever again. I hope charges are pressed against him, he should be investigated and i hope everywhere that sick Son of a bitch goes he is given the finger & pointed out for what he is. I hope in Davis if he even ventures off duty & goes to a restaurant that he is called out as a sadistic sick SOB and coward.

Im so amazed and proud though of those kids sitting there and continuing to keep their arms locked while he sprayed them. Bet Lt Pike couldnt handle having done to him what he did to those kids. That litlle coward would go running to his mother, probably the only woman who lets him near them.

:grr:

Meanwhile, hello dear Mr. Pitt! Its been a long time.... :hi:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:21 PM
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34. (((HUG)))
Great to see you, old friend!

:hug:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:32 PM
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35. You too....
Havent been posting in years dealing with health issues, but am sufficiently outraged enough by what is happening in our country that I had to come back to my DU.....always love seeing the old DUers and especially your posts and reporting Will! :hug:
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:13 PM
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31. chancellor is creating a task force to look into this
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:29 PM
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50. We don't need a "task force", we need a District Attorney. (NT)
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:40 PM
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51. Linda P.B. Katehi, the same Chanceller who directed the cops in?
Linda P.B. Katehi, the same chancellor to whom this letter is directed by a UC faculty member?

Open Letter to Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi
http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-l... /

Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi is personally responsible for this situation by allowing the police to escalate the violence. I wouldn't rely on any task force she has control over delivering an impartial conclusion.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 04:20 PM
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33. I hate the title of your thread, but I have to agree with the sentiment.
This is powerful evidence that the police state has went too far, I doubt this will ever be shown on "COPs" as it depicts them as being nothing but sadists.

Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, WilliamPitt.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:28 PM
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39. Tears flowing.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I could not have stood by, had I been there.
I would have tried to stop it.

I think it is a matter of time before people
start attacking the police who brutalize non violent citizens.

There were far more bystanders than police.
I think if just ONE person had attempted to stop him, the
rest would have taken him down, and rightly so.

BHN
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:51 PM
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55. The Pix looks like Nazi SS Gassing the Jews...but this time "IN PUBLIC"
We really need to think about this further. The Nazi's gassed Jews in Gas Chambers in Secret.

This time US POLICE are GASSING "sit down protestors" in the OPEN and WHO CARES? THEY JUST DO IT!

Just like we have to pass through "INSPECTION POINTS" if we fly these days. (Do you want the invasive "crotch grope" ...or do you want the "easy Radiation Inspection."

WHAT KIND OF FUCKING COUNTRY HAVE WE BECOME where HUMAN RIGHTS are GONE?



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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 06:35 PM
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41. The police have no idea this is being photographed
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:22 PM
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46. Yeah they do, that is why they are trying so hard to make it illegal to videotape them
The more video evidence like this there is the stronger the outcry for accountability and transparency will be.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:23 PM
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48. saw this on the news. Can't believe this happened at a UC campus
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:28 PM
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49. Those cops must be proud, eh?
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 07:31 PM by FlyByNight
Democracy is fine just as long as there's not too much of it being practiced by the wrong social circles.

Appalling.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:50 PM
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54. Stormtroopers. n/t
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:56 PM
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56. Ugly & violent. However anyone still questioning why we choose a nonviolent response..
Edited on Sat Nov-19-11 07:57 PM by Dover
can now see with clarity its immense power and the rippling sympathetic resonance left in its wake.
This is the very definition of power.

Had the students responded violently this powerful moment would have been lost.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:00 PM
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57. Looks like he's watering his houseplants. The banality of evil, personified.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:06 PM
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59. Deleted message
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:08 PM
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60. Calmly and deliberately
Like he was fertilizing plants. He even looks a bit bored.

So this is how American free speech works.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:11 PM
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61. Has anyone been able to out him yet?
Anonymous where art thou?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:05 AM
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95. here.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:28 AM
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98. I wrote the UC police department
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 09:28 AM by Gore1FL
and asked for the termination of Lt. John Pike and the resignation of Chief Annette Spicuzza for lying to the public while trying to defend the attack on the Local CBS affiliate.

The email address I used was jxsouza@ucdavis.edu which I obtained here: http://police.ucdavis.edu/campus-services/support-servi... John Pike's email is there too. I did not carbon copy him, but in retrospect I should have.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:33 PM
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63. I can't believe that asshole
They are just sitting there! :mad:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:50 PM
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65. I suppose we should be happy that they didn't go all Kent State on em.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:54 PM
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66. Just once, I'd love to see 500 protesters pull out their OWN mace and spray the cops.
I can dream.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:53 PM
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68. It's getting to that point.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:17 AM
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117. Fact: This thing keeps growing because they would never do that.
Don't underestimate the power of being righteous.

Don't give them any kind of justification.

Every time they attack physically and there is no physical counter-attack, but millions of people seeing the videos on the Web (and also seeing the complicity of the corporate media insofar as they do not cover), we win.

We win.
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jbpdx Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 10:06 PM
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67. Goons for the 1%
And people wonder why I don't include police unions in my idea
of the labor/progressive movement. That's a major psycho
problem.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 11:56 PM
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72. Thank you so much for the magnificent photo-op, Lt. Pike.
You have done the OWS movement a great service today. You and your masters may come to regret it, but it was inevitable, don't you think?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:24 AM
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78. Can we publish that scumsucking coward's
address???

I just LOVE it when bullies have to go into hiding....
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BadDog40 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:40 AM
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79. Here ya go
Lieutenant John Pike
Records Unit Manager
Phone: 530-752-3989
Cell: 530-979-0184
japikeiii@ucdavis.edu
Address: 4005 Cowell Blvd, Apt 616. Davis, CA 95618-6017
Skype: japike3
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BillyJack Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:46 AM
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81. Disgusting! Those police officers should be ASHAMED of themselves!
Seriously.
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:52 PM
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131. They're not ashamed, I'll bet they masturbated while they thinking all about that night.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:50 AM
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82. Well, that takes no ballz. What does he do for an encore, push little girls down and taunt them?
If you look in the dictionary for the definition of dick, you won't find that picture, but you should!!

If I was a member of wikipedia, I would add it to the definition of the word "dick".
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:55 AM
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83. Here's his encore. A minute later he grabbed one of the girls and sprayed her in the face again.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:03 AM
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84. this fucker needs to be in jail for assault.
How can this happen in a supposedly free nation?
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:12 AM
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86. Long version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&...

After the spraying people shout SHAME ON YOU! - And the shameful police are forced to leave.
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 08:44 AM
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90. Wait and see what happens when the Republicans privatize police...
It won't be pepper spray they will stomp heads....curb check, beat and disappear people.
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:04 AM
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94.  Oh Lt John Pike are you proud of what you did ?
Exceedingly bad judgment was exercised yesterday from UC Davis Chancellor Katehi, Police Chief Annette Spicuzza, and especially Police Lt. John Pike. From what I can tell,
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:25 AM
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97. You know - it doesn't surprise me even a little bit
I've known that these people have "motherfuckers" within their ranks for many decades now.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:28 AM
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99. I bet his glorious day continued when he got home
and beat his wife and kicked the dog.
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:42 PM
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129. They published his address above.
Apartment.

I'm just a-wildly guessing that it is unlikely he has a wife and even more probably has no dog.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:33 AM
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101. Criminal.
This 'man' has no business being a cop.
The other cops watching it happen are no better.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:10 PM
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134. I hope that they fire him
Will they?
Upon whose orders did the act?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:45 AM
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103. That is wrong.
hope that dude gets canned.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:56 AM
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105. This will just bring more people into the streets.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
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bluedave Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:34 AM
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109. livin in Amerika today
time for the major change
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:47 AM
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110. Too bad abortion can't be retroactive
This bass turd would be a prime candidate!
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 10:59 AM
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112. All of those cops need a massive ass-beating!
They better thank their god that I wasn't there.

The amount of broken bones they would've sustained would've been immeasurable.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:02 AM
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114. The Motherfuckers will continue to get away with it. Why? Because
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 11:34 AM by girl_interrupted
no one who has the real power will say or do anything to stop it. It's being met with silence by those at the top. We can express all the outrage we want,it won't do a thing. Unless those in power, come down hard on the violence that has been perpetrated against the protesters, it will continue. It is what it is.



Seattle


NYC


UC Davis



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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:46 PM
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130. If the police enforced banking regulation and anti-trust laws as aggressively.....
as they did enforcing laws that prohibit people from camping in public parks, we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:20 PM
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135. Looks like the President is more concerned
with the rights of Egyptians than those of Americans and is in violation of his oath of office. If the President wanted this shit to stop it would stop.
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Katie Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:53 PM
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147. +1000
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:28 AM
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119. Would you like to donate to the FOP Christmas Drive today?
Your contribution will help police officers look better in the eyes of the public, by taking some poor kid shopping on your dime and providing free PR to these types of brutal assholes in your town. Who knows, maybe the officer can get the kid to rat on mom or dad for smoking pot while they're at Wally-World spending your money?
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 03:18 AM
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159. excuse me?
you are going to blame all police for the action of some?

you are no better than those you rage against
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 06:59 AM
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161. Okay I'll excuse you...
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 12:15 PM
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165. someone has to keep a level head
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 12:17 PM by Supply Side Jesus
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:39 AM
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120. Jack Booted Thugs. In America. This is Law Enforcement???
Is that video all over the mainstream news networks?

If not, why not?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 01:59 PM
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132. motherfuckers are exactly correct. Share it w your networks.
We certainly can't rely on MSM.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:38 PM
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137. You know why not.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:52 PM
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142. Two words: Black. Water. Or perhaps: Homeland. Security.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:02 PM
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123. That's torture and calls for jail time
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 12:06 PM by Auggie
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 02:02 PM
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133. Yep.
Health threatening stuff there.

Dire consequences in the long run for many.
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 03:19 AM
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160. no it isn't
but I feel you
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wial Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:21 PM
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144. So, given this is happening with Obama administration acquiescence if not direct orders
what does that mean about choices we have to make in the upcoming election?
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:13 PM
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148. k and r nt
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:45 PM
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153. Soon it will be flame throwers and we will long for the days of pepper spray !
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 09:46 PM
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155. Lt. Pike travels back in time:
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 09:00 AM
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163. I love these Pike artworks
This is one of the best. :rofl:
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