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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:17 PM
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Occupy San Diego supports WH Shooter?
Edited on Fri Nov-18-11 09:18 PM by booley
Excuse the hyperbolic flamey subject line but that is exactly what the RW is screaming at the top of their internet lungs.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/17/occupy-san-diego-holds-moment-of-silencesolidarity-for-white-house-shooter-video/

and if you want to see the right wing's side of the story that is very easy to find....

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=occupy+san+diego+moment+of+silence+shooting&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=occupy+san+diego+moment+of+silence+shooting&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvnsu&ei=hAnHTtbaBK6hsQKntIgp&start=0&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=b37619c29ebbe4af&biw=1223&bih=888

We already now know that that the claim that the shooter was connected to Occupy was a lie.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201111170007

But that won't matter because now there's a video of Occupy San Diego having a moment of Silence in Solidarity for the White House shooter.

Is it true? Is it missing some context I couldn't see? I don't know. I wasn't at San Diego to see it. I have only the right wing's account to go by.

Yeah after video of Shirley Sherrod saying she refused to help white people and Acorn helping pimps of child prostitutes, I am obviously skeptical of a video that only seems to be on right wing bligs and Faux News.

But I wasn't there at San Diego. I cant' find the whole video to see any missing context and blanket cynicism isn't a good counter argument.

I have refrained from giving advice to the Occupy moment. They have people giving them advice out the wazoo.

BUT this was inevitable. We all knew the right wing would use video to demonize the Occupiers. The right does this to all their enemies. (hell sometimes the evidence is even true) And if they did it again here. there needs to be a way to counter it or else Occupy might as well go home

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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:22 PM
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1. BTW there is this
http://www.sdcitybeat.com/sandiego/blog-608-occupy-san-diego-protester-says-his-moment-of-solidarity-was-misunderstood.html

So there is someone out there trying to correct the record.

But unless soemthing gets done, this will get swamped out by the Right Wing Echo Chamber.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:26 PM
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2. You know, the right wingers are desperate
One of the usual right-wing suspects in the Twin Cities was claiming in MinnPost (an online paper) that Occupiers were having sex in public (on Government Plaza when it was 29° out).

They repeat whatever they hear in their media without question.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:29 PM
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3. covered last night ....
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 11:06 PM
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5. and it was lost down the memory hole
I did check and the topic you listed had already been covered up by so much other stuff.

And it certainly isn't reaching anyone not on DU.

thanks for the link. But my point is we need a better response and a way to make sure people can find this information out asap.

We can't just leave it at we know the truth.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:20 AM
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8. Nobody who doesn't follow right wing media even heard it.
It's a nonevent.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:30 AM
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11. Except here where the MSM ran it
KUSY... ran the tape, and he did say he asked for a moment of silence for BOTH.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:50 PM
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4. Debunked multiple times- people should stop posting this stuff (nt)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 11:10 PM
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6. How many times already?
It was there staring me in the face earlier today.
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dogknob Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:14 AM
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7. I was at Occupy San Diego this past weekend.
It is a generally somber affair. The SDPD has pretty much beat them down into the pavement. Pretty much what I would expect to see in my hometown. Yoyossarian and I gave them all of our spare $$$. The protesters who remain are either homeless, dedicated or both. I'm going back for Thanksgiving and I'll do whatever I can to help.

Historically, challenging the status quo in San Diego is the same as wearing a "kick me" sign on one's back. There are more than enough people there who are happy to interpret that literally.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:31 AM
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12. I will be there, to cover the women brining dinner
:-)
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:23 AM
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9. OMG!!!! Booley!!! Is it twoooo???!!!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:28 AM
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10. AND the WH staff.. .
And the RW using video to demonize is not new... they have been doing it here from day one.

One incident involving a flag and a dog was not even at Convention Center.

And the famous cart incident never led to a police investigation.

San Diego big Media, is part of the vast right wing media echo chamber. Get's worst the UT, which already was a rag, is about to become even more of a "fair and balanced" TO THE RIGHT paper. New Owner, and a RW hard core activist.
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