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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:23 AM
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The corporate media wonders what “demands” Occupy has. How can you demand anything
when you are getting the shit kicked out of you. The authoritarians don’t want to hear demands, they want capitulation.

The president needs to step in and protect the protestors civil rights.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:24 AM
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1. The President is helping to violate protestors civil rights via Homeland Security and the FBI.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-11 09:25 AM by Better Believe It
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:37 AM
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3. Speculation, no named sources, etc
Your typical disinformation tactics.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 12:34 AM
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10. Reporters... always a source for disinformation. Unlike honest political advisors.
You know, here's the thing... "anonymous" protestors were saying last week that this operation was in the works.

Over the past ten days, more than a dozen cities have moved to evict "Occupy" protesters from city parks and other public spaces. As was the case in last night's move in New York City, each of the police actions shares a number of characteristics. And according to one Justice official, each of those actions was coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies.

The official, who spoke on background to me late Monday evening, said that while local police agencies had received tactical and planning advice from national agencies, the ultimate decision on how each jurisdiction handles the Occupy protests ultimately rests with local law enforcement.

According to this official, in several recent conference calls and briefings, local police agencies were advised to seek a legal reason to evict residents of tent cities, focusing on zoning laws and existing curfew rules. Agencies were also advised to demonstrate a massive show of police force, including large numbers in riot gear. In particular, the FBI reportedly advised on press relations, with one presentation suggesting that any moves to evict protesters be coordinated for a time when the press was the least likely to be present.


The FBI has so far failed to respond to requests for an official response, and of the 14 local police agencies contacted in the past 24 hours, all have declined to respond to questions on this issue.

But in a recent interview with the BBC," Oakland Mayor Jean Quan mentioned she was on a conference call just before the recent wave of crackdowns began.

"I was recently on a conference call of 18 cities who had the same situation, where what had started as a political movement and a political encampment ended up being an encampment that was no longer in control of the people who started them."

UPDATE: Wednesday, 12:45 p.m. CT. Speaking of Homeland Security, the department's Federal Protective Service (which is tasked with protecting federal buildings) has been spotted at a couple of 'Occupy' crackdowns, including one in Portland.

UPDATE: Wednesday, 11:15 a.m. CT. Here are a couple of relevant links that are related to this story.

Filmmaker Michael Moore was on "Countdown With Keith Olbermann" last night talking about this very issue. Click here to see the video.

The Associated Press has published a great piece on another set of conference calls about strategy, these organized by the Police Executive Research Forum.

UPDATE: Wednesday, 10:10 am CT. I'm working on at least one new story for today, but I wanted to try and clear up a couple of questions I've gotten since this original story posted yesterday.

I have a hunch that Mayor Quan might have been referring to a conference call between a number of U.S. mayors in her interview, not one with law enforcement officials. But that's just a hunch on my part, since her office has so far declined to offer any explanation of her comments to me.

My original source for the story (who still works at the Justice Dept.) stands behind the original story and we're working to flesh it out in more detail today. I also have some other aspects of the story I'm working on as well.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me at [email protected].
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mdavies013 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:29 AM
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2. Do you mean the President needs to call for non-violence and assembly like he has in foreign...
Countries. I can only imagine how we look to the rest of the world. The beacon of freedom is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 09:56 AM
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4. Do you mean Billy clubs and baracades, with a side order of pepper spray?.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 08:41 PM
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9. Of course it's different if it is happening right here in River City. nm
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:59 AM
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5. I demand
to keep my brains WITHIN my skull, thank you very much ...
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:43 PM
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6. Wear a helmut. nm
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:48 PM
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7. The problem is that DEMANDS have been listed
Far from comprehensive.

Medicare for all (I know we really do not want to do that, the state that is)

Forgiveness of student debt.

Work with foreclosures

Restore Glass Steagall

End Citizens United

Fund services for the people

End the wars

And this is far from all of it.

Yes a few of these come under Economic Justice.

Media meme is that there are no demands (lie) and that they have no leaders (true)... there are a few other memes... and you are correct, they want capitulation We the LITTLE people should go back to Dancing with the Stars.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:25 PM
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8. Are these demands posted some where? And thanks for the list. nm
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