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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:12 AM
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SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Sandusky Foundation "Pimped Out Young Boys to Rich Donors"
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 10:14 AM by KoKo
SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'

Sportswriter Mark Madden went on WEEI in Boston and reported a rumor that alleged child molester Jerry Sandusky would pimp out boys to rich donors.

"I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-20...


================================
(An interesting listen if anyone has the time)


Mark Madden talks about the Penn State scandal and drops a new bomb about Jerry Sandusky
Thu, 10 Nov 2011

Our friend from Pittsburgh, Mark Madden, joins D&C to give his take on the Joe Paterno/Penn State scandal

Audio

http://audio.weei.com/a/48513317/mark-madden-talks-abou...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:15 AM
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1. I sincerely hope that rumor is not true.
It would be devastating, if it were. Uff da!
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BlueToTheBone Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:24 AM
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7. It would be devastating for the children
who were involved. Can you imagine being treated like a piece of meat? I'm fed up with old white men who think they are the only ones who matter. Paterno acts as though he were not an animal and has rights. He should be in court for his part in this and then if found guilty (and how could he not be) should sit in a prison cell for the rest of his ugly life.
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titaniumsalute Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:16 AM
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25. Mark Madden is a blow hard
He has a history of also making stuff up for ratings and publicity.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:44 PM
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34. OK. I don't follow sports much.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:43 PM
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45. It is VERY important to note Madden is a MAJOR scumbag
he is a shock jock sports type, who will say anything to get a reaction.

I will note, however, he did have a column earlier in the year WELL before any other media sources would report on it, that was spot on with a lot of this.

Fact is, it has been known pretty extensively what sandusky was going back to the 98 incident.

However, it is VERY crazy now, and they are also trying to tie in the disappearance of the county DA 6 years ago to this, and there is .0001 percent chance that there is a connection.

This is VERY bad, and there are going to be a lot crazy things that people are just going to throw against the wall to see if it sticks for a while now until everything comes out ...
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:15 AM
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2. That would explain the cover-up.
They weren't just protecting a coach; they were protecting some important 1% ers.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:16 AM
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3. A rumor is just a rumor, but if true, this is all just too much. Just hellish.
:wtf:
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:20 AM
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Please report back if this gets beyond the rumor stage. n/t
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:20 AM
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4. I've been waiting for this shoe to drop...now here it is
I read this in the Beaver County Times months ago, but didn't pass it along because it was still in the nebulous rumor stage. Appears it's now growing legs.

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Remember the child prostitution sex ring involving some in the administration of Boosh the Elder? Damned shame the internet was in its infancy back then. Here's hoping these vermin are exposed as pedophiles and that there are consequences this time!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:22 AM
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5. It's what I was thinking too when I first read this post.
Someone please keep us informed if this grows legs!

While I HATE that this happened at all and grieve for the pain and lost childhood these boys and victims like them have suffered, once and for all I wish the obscene corruption in higher institutions -- especially in the form of sex crimes and abuse -- would be exposed for what it is.

That includes the Catholic Church; they still haven't suffered, imho.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 06:00 PM
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58. Even if the corporate media will not do its job
others will endeavor to keep the public informed of the Republicon soul rot and its ruinous effects...
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:36 AM
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12. Link
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:12 AM
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23. OOPS! My bad
My memory isn't what it used to be. After I read Mark Madden's column, I wondered about what other 'rumors' were swirling, so I asked a friend who is tuned into All Things Penn State, and it was from him that I heard about the child-prostitution ring involving wealthy benefactors.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:45 AM
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15. I called a friend last night who recently retired from a major University.
The friend who worked in both the administration side of institutions and is also a law professor was involved in developing and refining conduct/sexual harassment policy.

I wanted her take on Penn State's liability problems. During our conversation I suggested that given the protection Sandusky (and Paterno) had been provided over the years by Penn State and assuming the administration and regents had been aware of these issues for a long time I was concerned that Sandusky was being protected because he was providing a service to donors and others. She became speechless as the implications took root in her attorney brain.

I was unaware of the story you are referring to but frankly the long term cover up and protection only makes sense if you think it has these longer tentacles back to the power base.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:57 AM
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20. The "donors" discussed in the rumor are donors to Second Mile, not Penn State
Just sayin'...
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:35 AM
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27. Considering the strong links between the school and the charity, it's likely they share donors. nt
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:04 PM
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30. Their attorney was also shared.
The University's attorney was/is also the Second Miles Foundation attorney.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:39 PM
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33. THAT I didn't know
Oh my. That really makes this rumor sound like there could be some truth here.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:48 PM
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35. His name is Wendell Courtney.
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 12:55 PM by DURHAM D
Its on Page 9 of the Grand Jury findings.

Edit: I just found this.

http://onwardstate.com/2011/11/09/current-second-mile-c... /


The university's legal exposure just keeps climbing.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:11 AM
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22. yes, I remember the Lincoln S&L scandal
I believe it was a nebraska republican senator who attempted to expose the scandal. children being sexually molested by politicians, monied. What I read at the time was that the victims were threatened if they didn't recant their testimony, they'd go to jail-two refused and went to jail.

So long ago, but it's take awhile for this country to become morally bankrupt because the "the fish rots from the head down." It's amazing you have students protesting--I guess sports are more important than what the victims (children) had to endure.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:58 PM
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37. Strangely enough, the Bush White House pedophile thingy had roots in Nebraska
Guess who is coming to riot-torn Happy Valley to play footsball on Saturday? Nebraska.

The rank stank (R) is overpowering...
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:23 AM
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6. For the sake of a very fine academic institution, I hope this is not true. nt
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:26 AM
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8. For the sake of exploited, abused children, I hope this helps ensure it never happens again!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:35 AM
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10. I wish I could have any confidence that would be the case.
I do not, I"m afraid. I'm very sad about that.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:46 AM
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16. Plus 1000.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:27 AM
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9. OMG!!
:puke:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:36 AM
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11. I wonder if that missing DA knew this - if it's true.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:02 PM
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39. + 1,000
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #39
68. That looks more like "screwed"
I'm just sayin'

:toast:
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:37 AM
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13. I wonder if Rush Limbaugh was a donor - or other 1%ers
This would not surprise me one bit. There are powerful people out there who do terrible things and get away with them because they have money and power. They have free rein to let their worst instincts and fantasies free, with no consequences. I pray this is not true, but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the 1% were involved in something like this.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:40 PM
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65. Lots of names in their annual report
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 07:40 PM by KamaAina
pages 5 and 7.

http://www.thesecondmile.org/pdf/AnnualReport2010.pdf

Hopefully someone more familar with PA's inner circle than I will scan it.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:38 AM
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14. rich, powerful donors. Now I know why the DA went missing.
Dead, or fled for his life.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:48 AM
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17. Something like that ran through my mind, as well.
nt
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:14 AM
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24. Maybe they should water board Sandusky to get to the truth.
just sayin'
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:48 AM
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18. If Sandusky did this after 2002 then Paterno, McQueary, Curley, Schultz and Spanier...
should all be arrested.

Oh and McQueary's dad too.

Because at that point all 6 of them knew what Sandusky was doing and none of them did anything to stop him.

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:34 PM
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32. forget them
how about the whole DA department. Hell the whole political structure of the region and the police and DA office come under suspicion. With so many victims and so many reporting possible crimes and an actual investigation... it's easier to see why small guys like McQueary or his dad had so little impact. Who do you go to when everyone is covering up... including the media(?). Did someone in the media know, yah got think someone knew particularly after the DA went missing. I'm starting to see the people on the bottoms as victims of a totally corrupt system. If the system around you is corrupt, then you coarse of action can easily be corrupted. It may not absolve them, but it certainly means the true source of the problems of this crime is far removed from them.
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:53 AM
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19. This is hearsay
And I believe it is irresponsible to post this given that there is no confirmation of this soi-disant "rumor."

-- Mal
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:09 AM
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21. Yes, it is just a rumor.
But, it has appeared, now, in the media and, as such, is suitable for posting on DU. Many crimes are first reported as rumors. As long as it is identified as a rumor, there's nothing wrong with reporting it on DU.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:57 PM
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46. this whole episode was hearsay a week ago..
NOTHING would surprise ma at this point.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:19 AM
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26. Let's hope if true... the names start to leak. nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:40 AM
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28. Time for the Feds to come in
Shut that place down!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:02 PM
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29. Two interesting facts I have learned this morning -
(1) Sandusky is now prohibited from being alone with three of his grandchildren. Its not clear who requested the restriction. Perhaps it was one or more of his adopted children on behalf of their children.

(2) The in-house university attorney for Penn State at the time the Sandusky matter began was (is) simultaneously serving as legal counsel for The Second Miles Foundation.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:08 PM
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31. This stinking pile of pedophile filth needs uncovering by the FEDS.
Lift up every rock and let in the sun.
Put EVERYONE who was involved in any cover-up or misdeed in jail.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 03:50 PM
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56. They're involved now.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 12:50 PM
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36. Aw Jesus fuck, this keeps getting worse
:grr:
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:00 PM
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38. if this > "Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up" is true, then
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 01:01 PM by stockholmer
Joe Paterno will end up doing the perp walk in cuffs.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:15 PM
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41. The evidence points that way to me
This guy could have been a head coach a major football college but decided to retire. Does not add up.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:17 PM
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42. I'm skeptical of the rest, but that much at least rings true.
At least to some degree. Sandusky made a relatively surprising retirement less than a year after the 1998 allegations and investigation. Supposedly, this was because he was told he wouldn't be Paterno's successor as had been widely expected. But even if that were true, why WOULDN'T he be, unless they knew?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 02:01 PM
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48. why wouldn't he have moved on to another football program?
there are any number of univerities that would have hired on a coach of his calibre.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:13 PM
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40. Oh my jeebus h... Shades of Franklin all over again...
What a fucking world we live in. :(

Franklin in a nutshell: www.tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied.htm

TYY
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:27 PM
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43. I can't read this without turning into a one-man lynch mob
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 01:58 PM by Jack Rabbit
I'm angry enough at banksters and other right wing billionaires. This really brings out the primal.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:45 PM
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67. I know what you mean about bringing out the primal.
It also makes you wonder just how many tentacles there are and how far they reach...
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:34 PM
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44. College football is homoerotic tribalism
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 01:40 PM by FarCenter
Tribalism in the sense of identification with a group of heros going out to do battle for the tribe; identification with tribes uniforms, insignia, and regalia; and adoption of a totem (what the heck is a Nittany Lion?).

Homoerotic as evidenced by the exaggeratedly masculine shoulder pads; the bulging crotch with the protector; the tight, shiny pants conducive to butt-patting; and the shiny helment designed to emulate the glans of a penis.

Not to mention the group showers, towel snapping and "horseplay".

Note also that in the tribal structure, Paterno plays the role of the shaman or medicine man, who imparts wisdom to the tribe and gives magical powers to the young heros, while staying off the field of battle and guide them from a distance.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 01:59 PM
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47. If it is, that's news to me.
nt
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 02:16 PM
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50. Interesting take on it. btw, a Nittany lion was a regional cougar
native to the area. At least, that's what I remember from my visit to the campus.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 02:58 PM
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51. Yes, presumably a subsubspecies of Puma concolor couguar
Although the early history of the mascot appears to have included references to the African lion.

At any rate, it is now encrusted with bogus myths and legends.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 03:22 PM
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52. Yep. Totally.
Pro football, too.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:27 PM
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61. I think that you think too much.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:30 PM
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62. LOL
Never thought of it like that.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 02:01 PM
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49. Pennsylvania is where judge Mark Ciavarella made money convicting little boys and girls.
Kids for Cash.

Each day, my heart aches more and more...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 03:49 PM
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55. And got a light sentence for it.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 03:40 PM
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53. This wouldn't be for "The Family" clan in Washington would it?
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 03:48 PM
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54. Which plucky reporter will get a list of those donors?
The ones who gave tons of money? If it was a registered charity, the records should be available somewhere.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:24 PM
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60. I am hoping that someone reputable is on it...
...before it gets disappeared.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:08 PM
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57. ...1
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:21 PM
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59. Kicking...
It's been duped quite a bit. :kick:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:33 PM
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63. It is beginning to sound as if that whole school needs to be shut down.
Accreditations yanked. Federal funding deleted. No more Penn State, not just no more football program. Because you know this went higher. HAD TO.
They make 70 million + every year on athletics. That's a chunk of change.
Duckie
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:38 PM
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64. Isn't there pain enough to go around in this mess...
... without circulating as yet unsubstantiated rumors? I mean, really.
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 07:44 PM
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66. ENOUGH ALREADY! Unrec for circulating an unsubstantiated rumor
If it turns out to be true, or when there is a credible allegation, then circulate the report. The outrageous comments in this thread, which unfairly indict an entire community of over 44,000 students, or make reference to another Pennsylvania case that is unrelated to this matter so far as anyone knows, as if such things are typical of Pennsylvania, or which make sweeping statements about the nature of an entire sport -- ALL OF THIS IS TURNING INTO A FUCKING WITCH HUNT, AND I AM HAVING NONE OF IT!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 01:41 PM
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69. Madden may be bloviating but he broke story 7 months ago
Posted: Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:55 pm | Updated: 4:34 pm, Mon Apr 4, 2011.

Madden: Sandusky a State secret Mark Madden Timesonline.com

The Jerry Sandusky situation seems a matter of failure to connect certain dots, or perhaps unwillingness in that regard. Lots of people besides the former Penn State defensive coordinator have some explaining to do.

Allegations of improper conduct with an underage male first surfaced in 1998, while Sandusky was still employed by Penn State. That incident allegedly occurred in a shower at Penn State's on-campus football facility. No charges were filed.

Sandusky retired the next year, in 1999. He was 55, prime age for a coach. Odd, to say the least - especially with Joe Paterno thought even then to be ready to quit and Sandusky a likely, openly-discussed successor.

It seems logical to ask: What did Paterno know, and when did he know it? What did Penn State's administration know, and when did they know it?

http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madde...
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