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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:52 PM
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Conservative Penny Nance is "shocked" by the new Cain accusations.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67786.html

Penny Nance, who heads the conservative group Concerned Women for America, first called on Herman Cain last week to give a direct response to POLITICO's story about sexual harassment complaints made against Cain. After Cain's first set of responses, Nance said she was reassured.

But following Sharon Bialek's press conference Monday, Nance says Cain must urgently address the "shocking" new allegations:

While seeing Gloria Allred insert herself into another national scandal (her last client was a porn star) was disturbing, listening to Sharon Bialek's story of how she was dealt with by Herman Cain was even more shocking. I have to reiterate, that in my dealings with Mr. Cain, he has always been a gentleman. However, hearing that there is a growing number of women who have accused Mr. Cain of inappropriate behavior gives me pause.


This woman is now the face of an issue that continues to grow and be a distraction for Mr. Cain's campaign. Mr. Cain needs to address these new allegations head on. Unlike anonymous allegations, Ms. Bialek appeared credible and I was very disturbed by her characterization of what happened. Whoever Republican primary voters choose as president should be a man or woman of good moral character. We said when Bill Clinton was president that character counts and we still believe that.

Nance's responses track a dynamic that should alarm Cain: There are plenty of conservatives who very much want to like the Republican presidential candidate, and who were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt all through last week. But there may be a point at which the good will runs out and activists start wondering if they've been seriously misled.



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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:55 PM
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1. I guess standing up to this crap is wrong
But only when the accused is republican, then they become the victim.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:56 PM
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4. This conservative leader now has serious doubts about Cain.
I think that's a good sign.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:55 PM
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2. What is the big deal about Gloria Allred?
Edited on Mon Nov-07-11 06:56 PM by redqueen
I see people mentioning that she's a distraction, and going by one earlier thread which suggested we break out the popcorn, it seemed to be true.

I realize I'm displaying my cluelessness here, but I really don't know what it is about her that's supposedly such a big deal.

And frankly I find this just flat-out offensive: "While seeing Gloria Allred insert herself into another national scandal (her last client was a porn star) was disturbing"

:wtf:

What has that got to do with anything?

Why is Allred such a big deal, but no one ever says exactly why?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:58 PM
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6. You're right. The male high profile lawyers -- Alan Dershowitz, for example --
don't seem to draw the same scorn.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:00 PM
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8. Is that all it is? That she's high-profile?
There has to be more than that... if not it's :grr: time.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:02 PM
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9. I think so. She's been a lawyer in lots of high-media cases. n/t
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:10 PM
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10. Whenever I have seen her speak she is very rude and seems
to like to yell.
I have found her obnoxious
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:13 PM
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11. It's political, mostly
Conservatives hate her because she's a feminist, and they consider her ultra-left.

She also sued CA for marriage equality.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:40 PM
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20. America doesn't really care for ambulance chasers
Sorry, but at the end of the day, she's still a publicity hound, like a lot of lawyers of both sexes. I seem to recall several of her clients felt she was a phony who put her face time ahead of their case.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:32 PM
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19. Are you kidding me?
Johnny Cochrane, anyone?

I'd say that Dershowitz has a different style of seeking publicity than Allred, but he has gotten his fair share of being dumped on. He's just more low key these days.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:35 PM
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14. Why? Because they are afraid of her
Remember the Republican mantra is to attack those they perceive as weak and beat them into submission. Gloria Alred didn't make her money and her reputation by being meek...

She is as deadly as a Rattlesnake/Bull mix....I have absolute confidence that with her on the scene the Repugs know Cain is done.

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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:07 PM
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17. She trys to make a joke about everything.
At today's press conference she said Cain offered "his own version of a stimulus package". Not long ago she joked that she did not mind being groped by the TSA because "that area hasn't been touched in years". If that is the type of person you want representing you in what is supposed to be a serious sex case, go for it.
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mr_liberal Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:25 PM
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18. she seems liek she'll take a case no matter how
frivolous just to get on tv and get attention.

She also comes off like a radical feminist that wouldn't believe the man no matter what. not just in her cases but when she comments on tv about other cases.

i kinda like her though anyhow.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:56 PM
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3. every time I hear a conservative criticize Cain
I just think they're in cahoots with whatever faction leaked it in the first place, most likely Rick Perry.

Especially with a group like CWA, which has pretty much zero credibility with me.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:58 PM
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5. I understand their profound disappointment
This is the one flaw on his otherwise tailor-made-for-the-presidency resume. :sarcasm: :wtf:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:59 PM
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7. Funniest thing I've seen on DU today.
:) :thumbsup:
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:22 PM
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12. I still can't figure out, why with the obvious skeletons in his closet he decided
to run for President. He had to have known that this day would come!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:39 PM
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15. That's because narcissm has no bounds
he is that full of himself...
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 07:27 PM
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13. While you are looking at the Cain bullshit, hold on to your wallet. IT'S A DISTRACTION. nm
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mr_liberal Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 08:04 PM
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16. I htink Cain thought she was
offering him sex for a job, thats thats why she agreed to drive several hours to meet him, go out to dinner one on one, and then stay over in a hotel. Its why he rented a suite and then made a move on her.

She never intended on having sex with him though, she just thought she could convince him to help her get a job.

I think there's a good chance Cain drops out of the race now. I don't think he'll want to come clean. It may blow over but... if this woman does more interviews or if more women come forward I think he'll just quit.
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