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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:27 PM
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OAKLAND: Widespread reports of vandalism (PICS) by anarchists dressed in black (black blocs)!
The Whole Foods store was vandalized. Bank of America had its windows smashed. Reports of vandalism keep flooding Twitter.







These are all circulating on Twitter.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:29 PM
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1. It happens
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 05:30 PM by MedleyMisty
I've also seen it circulating on Twitter that other protesters were cleaning off the graffiti.

If anybody gets too upset about it, ask them if they're cool with police beating and gassing protesters and putting Scott Olsen in the hospital. If they say yes, then ask them why they value a corporation's property over human life.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:32 PM
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3. I am in agreeance with you. It doesn't bother me at all to see some smashed glass...
But a fellow citizen with a smashed head is what gets me.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:32 PM
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2. agent provocateurs
take their pictures people. they harm the movement.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:33 PM
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4. I read there's little to no police presence right now. Maybe because they're not in uniform. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:38 PM
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11. There is zero police presence.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:53 PM
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16. I bet more than one is wearing black.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:23 PM
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18. That's not near where the main protest is
The main protest area is about a mile away. No one was expecting protestors there.
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:37 PM
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8. That would be my guess. This is a staged event to justify a crack down.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:34 PM
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5. They are idiots.
Either useful idiots or paid idiots.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:35 PM
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6. Are these actual OWS protesters or plants?
I could see the powers that be hiring plants to do things like this to give the protesters a bad image/name.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:36 PM
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7. Seems like plants to me. Michelle Malkin is all over it right now. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:38 PM
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9. Black block are not OWS.
They are plants.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:38 PM
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10. There is a group who was angry about the strike & are known to transform their anger into
violent behavior. And that group is...








...the Oakland Police Department.









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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:39 PM
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12. Dressed all in black, wearing helmets and ski masks. I am very suspicious.
Agents provocateur.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:46 PM
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13. Vandals in black "uniforms" are NOT OWS 99%ers. Just sayin'.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:46 PM
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14. they should be followed every second. Never take your
eyes off them. Find out who these people are.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:52 PM
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15. Anarchists have always sucked, and will always continue to suck. n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:27 PM
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22. My church is about a block away from there
The stained glass windows are 100 years old. :mad:
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Danse Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:45 PM
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31. Um
Does that mean that Tolstoy, Gandhi, Chomsky, Zinn etc. etc. "suck"? Does David Graeber -- who spearheaded the original horizontal assembly in NY -- suck? You may want to learn the difference between anarchists and nihilist kids/provocateurs.
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:17 PM
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17. at the noon presser interim cheif Jordon mentioned a "small
group of disruptive people" and also mention the P.D. has been informed of these people by folk in Occupy Oakland. He and the brass have to be well aware of agent provocateurs since protests and random gaffiti is nothing new in Oakland. The same black clad and masked guys did the same stuff at anti war marches in SF.

I don't have much good to say about OPD but I believe they're aware of these people and have an idea of how to handle them.

That Whole Foods store is about a mile away from 14th & Broadway on the far end of Lake Merrit, in local terms no where near where the action is. The BofA branch looks like its in City Center which is right across East 14th from city hall and the plaza.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:25 PM
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19. Thanks for your report from Oakland.
Keep us posted if you can.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:30 PM
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23. Wrong peaceful protest
And black blocks are provocateours used by police as excuse.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:35 PM
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24. havent you seen, the cops will smash the OWS heads in anywhoo
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 06:36 PM by NightWatcher
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:42 PM
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28. Yup, but there is a moral high ground.
Just like medics staying studiously neutral in conflict zones. You need to keep a high ground.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:27 PM
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21. those who did this need to be tracked down and exposed!
I believe they are plants...
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a simple pattern Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:40 PM
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25. Recced to zero.
Grab. Unmask. Photograph. Post.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:42 PM
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26. meanwhile bystanders did not to stop them....except take pictures. way to go nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:43 PM
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29. Actually one photo has people fighting them back
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 06:43 PM by nadinbrzezinski
You need both
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:42 PM
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27. Wonder if the cops got overtime pay for doing this. n/t
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:44 PM
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30. Probably PTB plants. They made us look bad at the Battle
of Seattle also.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:54 PM
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32. And the cops let the Black Bloc wreak destruction every time. I've been on
protests where we have begged the cops to step in and arrest vandals who are right in front of the cops breaking windows or starting trash fires and the cops pretend like they see nothing.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:56 PM
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33. the cops are scared of the BB's. They'd rather mace women and peaceful protesters
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