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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:26 PM
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17 Arrested Inside THIS Citibank
Source: Business Insider

Today some Occupy Wall Street marchers went directly to banks.

According to Alex Silverman of CBS New York, 17 were arrested for trespassing inside the LaGuardia Pl. Citigroup location. Another 2 were arrested outside for disorderly conduct.

This idea of being more confrontational with banks will help the protesters get more attention, but going to random retail outlets, and being a nuisance inside the part where the ATMs are is going to be pretty ineffective.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/17-arrested-inside-this-citibank-during-occupy-wall-street-march-2011-10



Protesters were outside. 20 people went in to withdraw their money. They were asked to leave. When they tried to leave, bank security locked the doors, refused to let them leave and called the police. Police arrested 2 that were locked out, others as they were let out.

Clueless, simply clueless as to how this looks, how many more will be outraged.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:30 PM
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1. There's some kind of stand of at a Chase branch involving about 40 people
but I haven't been able to get details yet. No arrests.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:31 PM
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2. you can't withdraw your money from the bank
without being arrested

this is very bad stuff
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:37 PM
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3. I don't see how "run on the bank" fears or "they wouldn't stop protesting, raising a ruckus"
explanation would work here. This is incredible but wonderful. Show people what reality is.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:04 PM
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13. + Me. n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:41 PM
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4. All your money are belong to us
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:43 PM
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5. They dont care how it looks, it will not see the light of day
I dare you to find this on google news. Even on google proper, the only reference to this is a link back to DU. And the links there only refer to general arrests. Not one word about why. And there will not be.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:52 PM
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8. Yes, yes, give up helpless liberals.
We've heard it all before.

:eyes:

NGU.

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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:11 PM
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15. Yup. thats exactly what I was saying
You can take your eye roll back and shove it. Ive been out marching, and I will be again. I am doing the Nov 5th thing myself. My money is where my mouth is.

But the reality is that this, properly reported, would cause a business difficulty. And so it will not be properly reported. We will have to get it out there, or no one will ever know about it.
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Blecht Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:35 PM
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17. You are 100% correct
And try not to be so sensitive when somebody on the Internet misunderstands the intent of your words. :-)

Your message is clear to me -- the corporate media will almost certainly not report this (if they do, it will be heavily spun into something beyond reality) -- it is up to us to get the word out.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:16 PM
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24. Yeah. musta woke up on the wrong side
My apologies to ClassWarrior, I didn't need to take it so personal. I got no good excuse why the rolley eyes pissed me off so much.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 11:14 PM
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38. that was uncalled for. Not at all what was being said and snide to boot.
shame on you.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:17 PM
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25. So far, it is being reported not only on CBS, as the OP stated, but here, too:
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:44 PM
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28. hmm. Maybe my inner cynic was wrong
I am glad to see that there are some updates. The original business insider article was the only one I could find at that time, and it didn't say a blessed thing about closing accounts, just that protestors had been arrested at Citibank, and that blocking ATM access wasn't going to be a good protest tactic.

That said, those sources seem to either be local/small/preaching to the choir. The ones that more people will likely see (ie the AP version) just state that people were arrested, and separates this from any notion of closing accounts by at least a paragraph. Kinda like how the reporting on our movement has been all along. Inaccurate, misleading, minimal. Its on us to get this out there.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:53 PM
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30. I had the very same thought, soon as I saw this
A few minutes ago when I first read this and say the video, my first thought was how quickly this story will be hid or buried. A run on our banks would throw everything off. They want to do everything they can to discourage that.

It just scares me.. what if everyone reading this went to their banks and tried to get their money?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 06:46 PM
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31. Enough! Go here and scroll down, for real coverage.
Trust me, the people who need to see the coverage will see it.
The ones who are not with the movement will dismiss it if it is tattooed into their eyelids.

Look here, and enjoy.

http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2011/10/15/album/1318675228_581822.html
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:05 PM
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33. wow!
pictures like this give me a teeny glimmer of faith in people. I've watched things get worse and worse for so many years and everyone around me keeping complacent.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:46 PM
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36. When you stop to think that this is a world wide movement,
ALL these people had to plan to be where they are today, across the globe, and their message is
VERY consistent....get the bankers out of our government.
Even in Seoul and Taipai, for god's sakes.
Spain, i can understand, Berlin, I can understand.
But Korea???

with apologies to Buffalo Springfield

There's something happening here
what it is, is abundantly clear.
theres a man with a sign over there
tellin me i got to beware

i think it's time we stop, children
what's that sound
everybody look what's goin down

there's battle lines being drawn
nobody's right if everybody's wrong
young people speakin there minds
getting so much resistance far behind

it's time we stop,
hey what's that sound
everybody look what's goin down

what a field day for the heat
a thousand people in the street
singin songs that they carry inside
mostly say hurray for our side

it's time we stop,
hey what's that sound
everybody look what's goin down

there are lawyer strikes deep
into your life it will creep
it starts when your always afraid
step out of line the man come and take you away

you better stop
hey what's that sound
everybody look what's going down

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 01:02 PM
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45. Just as the human microphone relays the protesters' words even
when TPTB will not allow them actual microphones or bullhorns, or even when the people are not well-funded enough to be well-equipped with such technology, so too will the "human microphone" of the Internet and word of mouth relay and amplify these events so that more and more of the 99%ers will hear about how the 1% treat us even when we try to use our own money or exercise the most basic of our rights.

Remember the old adage about how "freedom of the press" means only that someone rich enough to own the press--a newspaper or other media outlet--has the freedom to express his opinion? Well that is no longer true, because as the Arab Spring and the Madison protests have shown, and as OWS is continuing to show, as long as we have the Internet, their attempt at a media blackout won't work.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 04:18 PM
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46. That is why I am taking part
However, I think that we are still in the trial stage of this. Arab spring has started, but we have not seen the fruit of that tree yet. Will the new boss be any different than the old. Madison happened, but I do not see change having come to that state yet. We are doing OWS, but what has changed yet?

I feel our backs are against a wall. We have to try, because the way things are is untenable. But success is still in the future, not the present. We are not there, we are just trying to get there.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:45 PM
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6. Where are the details from?
RE "Protesters were outside. 20 people went in to withdraw their money. They were asked to leave. When they tried to leave, bank security locked the doors, refused to let them leave and called the police. Police arrested 2 that were locked out, others as they were let out."

I don't see that at the linked webpage.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:29 PM
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19. Details are
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:45 PM
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7. That's close to false imprisonment. No?
When they tried to leave, bank security locked the doors, refused to let them leave and called the police.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:54 PM
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9. I would call it holding someone hostage. nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:07 PM
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14. Yes, it definitely is. But it may be hard to find an attorney.
Finding an attorney to fight the banks for this kind of shit is difficult.



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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. National Lawyers Guild is providing attorneys for the Occupy movement.
Anyone wanting to help out with a donation, that is a good place to start, I am sure they could use it for bail money.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 07:39 PM
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32. Since when in the hell does a bank...
...have the right to hold American citizens against their will--inside their bank???

This wasn't the police holding them. It was ordinary citizens.

These bank employees didn't have the right to detain anyone--any more
than the owners of a McDonald's or a Baby Gap would have the right
to detain anyone.

You can't do that.

Can't wait to see the consequences for these small-minded thugs. You may
own our spineless, chump politicians--but you don't frickin own "We The People".

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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 10:27 PM
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37. I dunno
I think you are right. At the same time, Ive seen security guards haul people into offices before. It was a regular occurrence at a nearby grocery store when I was a kid. I wonder what the law actually says about that. Hopefully this will go to court and prove Citi wrong.
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Lizzie Poppet Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:52 AM
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42. Glad I wasn't there.
I'm NOT trying to be all "internet tough gal," but I (legally) carry a concealed handgun quite a bit of the time. Attempted kidnapping is a felony...and in my state anyway, it is legally permissible to use force to prevent a felony crime. I wouldn't come out shooting (obviously...), but I damn sure would have insisted the security d-bags immediately cease attempting to violate my rights by unlawfully detaining me without cause.
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:08 PM
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49. Not really, no.
It's like a citizen's arrest. Large commercial stores, for example, can physically detain people they catch shoplifting. There are conditions, of course, but it's legal. Being a bank, I'm sure they had professional security guards, and new exactly what they were doing.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:56 PM
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10. Citibank, I have a quote for you: "Your stupid minds, stupid stupid!"
:rofl:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:57 PM
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11. Why did this get moved from LBN? Is this not an acceptable news source? serious question
if it isn't, I'd like to know. Thanks.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:51 AM
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39. While I can't speak for the mods...
My suspicion as to why they moved it is that it comes from an opinion piece rather than an actual news story.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 02:57 PM
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12. how to make friends, influence people and appreciate your customers
Edited on Sat Oct-15-11 02:57 PM by lunatica
It's in their handbook somewhere I'm sure. They'd know this if they hadn't just thrown it out.
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 03:13 PM
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16. I this is true and video gets on the internet of it or fist hand accounts of what happened.
they'll loose allot of business.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:34 PM
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35. Video:
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:09 PM
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18. Let's get this straight -
they entered the bank to do business; they were asked to leave, then prevented from leaving and then arrested for not leaving. Is that right? If so, how can they expect to get away with this?
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:30 PM
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20. Lawyers must be rofl right about now.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:27 PM
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26. Yup - it's almost too good to be true!
And think of all the copycat "bank runs" this will inspire. The banksters must be shaking in their boots right about now.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 04:23 PM
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47. Uh. No. They own the gobeRment, remembeR....
These fa$ci$t$ expect theiR bought-and-paid-for employee$ WILL bail them out (again).
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:36 PM
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21. that's how I figure it. I don't know how or why. Shaking my head in amazement.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 04:39 PM
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22. bank manager will be fired..citi will apologize..that will be that..after a bit of hoopla..
still, i think it shows just how crazy they are...as a corporation and at the individual branch.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:52 AM
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40. Nope; if arrests were made, there's a class-action lawsuit coming.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:02 PM
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48. good..nt
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luv_mykatz Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:34 PM
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27. Our expressions of outrage need to increase.
This whole scenario is simply too much. TPB have gone way too far! Locking people in after they were asked to leave, then arresting them?!? :wtf: :mad: :grr: :nuke:

We NEED to bring them down! Solidarity! Occupy Everywhere!!!!!!!!

Simply uneffing unbelievable, arresting people who came into the bank on business. :wow: :puke:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 05:48 PM
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29. K&R n/t
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:33 PM
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34. Video link:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:10 AM
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41. The PTB are scared shitless.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:58 AM
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43. Citicrank!
K & R!
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Lizzie Poppet Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 12:01 PM
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44. Shitibank!
=)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:54 PM
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50. Like yours better. Shiticrank works too!
Edited on Sun Oct-16-11 10:54 PM by lonestarnot
:7
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