Take a look at this photo.

[Hutzpa]

now, what do you think looking at how helpless that man is?

[sharp_stick]

1. He's just lucky that Tony Bologna

isn't there to spritz a little pepper spray into his face.

I'm starting to lose a lot of respect for cops. I know they have a tough job but if they're so damned simple that they can't figure out a decent response on their own and fall back on SOP guidance they're too fucking dim to be allowed to carry weapons.

[demosincebirth]

13. Starting to lose respect?

[blueamy66]

51. I don't like cops at all...

but the detective we've been working with to try to find a missing family member is Vegas is really nice, helpful, knowledgeable and seems to care.....might have to change my mind about ALL cops

[Doremus]

36. Reminds me of this one from a few years ago.

Real big men tackled a peaceful protester who committed the crime of walking on the sidewalk, breaking her knee in the process, and threatened to mace the other woman who's taking photos. Yeah, real big men. :eyes:

[Suich]

45. Good grief...that's painful to look at.

Where is that???

[WhoIsNumberNone]

38. That's what NYC cops are known for

The DC cops were considerably cooler that this to the Occupy DC protestors. Now I realize that Occupy DC just started and Occupy Wall St has been going for a while, and it remains to be seen if the DC police will continue to be cool with the protestors...

[Dawson Leery]

2. We are taking notes.

[Cid_B]

27. Notes about one picture with zero context?

Easy to make a case either way for whatever side you like...

a) Brave protester fighting against the man and the powers that be...

b) Dirty jobless hippie who attacked a cop and has been restrained...

[Hutzpa]

40. Isn't that what's wrong with America today

everyone is looking through the lens but comes out witha difference in opinion.

Rose colored lens.

[Cid_B]

47. Umm... I'll have to say no

Same thing has been going on as long as there has been people....

[Hutzpa]

49. I don't understand your point.

let me make this easier for you, are you talking about violence in America or are you referring to violence by police officers?

[tridim]

3. I'm thinking he's having trouble breathing thanks to the knee on his throat

And I'm thinking the American flag in the picture represents irony and hypocrisy.

Is there a story that goes with this image?

[Hutzpa]

7. Not yet

would be nice though.

[Scout]

24. not defending the cop, but we need to be accurate....

the knee is not on his throat, it is on the top of his chest.

[tridim]

25. Maybe, but the throat does begin at the top of the chest.

It is literally a centimeter away.

And this photo is also a split second in time, we don't yet know what happened before or after the photo was taken.

[Dogtown]

29. Look at the eyes.

Then check the contrast between the color of his torso and his face.

This man is being strangled, nearly to the point of losing consciousness.

[Hutzpa]

32. Thank you

I am surprised with the responses from most of the posters here, really surprise.

Looking at that image I can't help but think of staring at the face or eyes of a man
who is about to lose his life.

[pintobean]

35. Omg. I don't see that at all.

Nothing even close to that.

[Hutzpa]

37. hahaha

lol

[pintobean]

46. The fact that you're amused by my reply

makes me doubt the sincerity of your claim. :shrug:

[Hutzpa]

48. I'm amused because I find your responses

to most thread on DU condescending, I don't if it's delibrate or made up to throw people off.

[peace13]

4. That cop wouldn't last a minute if the guy on the ground wanted up...

His genitals are way too exposed.

[War Horse]

28. That was my first thought as well

that cop's crotch sure is exposed.

[Lyric]

5. We ALL need to be there. All of us.

They can't step on all of our necks. There aren't enough cops in the whole state of New York to manage that.

There need to be MILLIONS of people sitting right in the middle of the streets. I'm sick of watching our people be abused for daring to speak out.

[texastoast]

11. We had a good one in Houston yesterday

And it is still going on today. I didn't get to stay all day, but I plan to be there as much as reasonably possible going forward. Come on down!

[liberal N proud]

6. If these people were truly violent, someone would have that cops gun

look how unprotected it is hanging out there in the open.

Also, put me in that position and a quick grab of the crotch and that cop will jump three feet.

[Brickbat]

8. It's a good photo, but he's helpless because everyone's standing around taking pictures.

[Hutzpa]

9. Do they have a choice? n/t

[lunatica]

12. Have you noticed the cop has a gun?

It could get ugly very quickly if people went to interfere. Either someone would take the gun and shoot the cop or the cop would shoot someone.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. "Congress shall make no law....abridging the freedom of speech.."

[ret5hd]

14. notice the cops are wearing white wristbands.

the cop using his knee has one on his left arm, the cop grabbing his arm has one on his right arm.

start watching any troublemakers in the crowd, see if they have white wristbands.

[notadmblnd]

18. According to another website they mean-

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
"We are part of the collective, the hive mind, the bourgeoisie."

1 year ago

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100427132415AAfiMxd

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[Fire Walk With Me]

16. If he reached just a little to the right he could give that cop's knob a great, big freedom tug.

But that won't solve the problem. Peacefully accepting arrest as he is highlights the problem and look how the outrage is spreading. #OWS is hilighting so many problems at once and so much energy is going against those problems, it's just amazing/wonderful.

[dixiegrrrrl]

17. Congress shall make no law

abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

[sfpcjock]

19. The cops aren't the enemy but they do want you to go away in pain

and not come back and bother anybody with your political opinions.

Homeland security has also bought you a hotel room in a "camp" in Fresno if all hell breaks loose, which somebody was expecting to happen during the Bush years.

[dixiegrrrrl]

30. Do you have a citation/link for that piece of info?

[sfpcjock]

42. Yes, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P8jYKOPQQs"> Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory - Police State Part 3 of 6 (video)

I think there are 20 or so "Fusion Centers" around the country now that were built in the last years of the Bush administration using all the windfall Homeland Security money. There are at least half a dozen of these "FEMA prisons" which are actually Homeland Security prisons which have no identified purpose. They made Ventura pull this episode of his recent TV show.

[dixiegrrrrl]

50. I found the video overwrought, but also found very disquieting information about the centers

on DHS own web page:
http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1156877184684.shtm
Essentially, the lines between private and government intelligence gathering are gone, the intelligence gathering is done at EVERY level!

"State and major urban fusion centers (fusion centers) serve as focal points within the state and local environment for the receipt, analysis, gathering, and sharing of threat-related information between the federal government and state, local, tribal, territorial (SLTT) and private sector partners".

Chilling..implications are very chilling.

http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1156877184684.shtm

[pintobean]

20. It's interesting, but useless

since we have no clue as to what led to this point.

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[Cronus Protagonist]

22. I'm thinking he should grab that cop's nuts and turn the tables on him

He would no doubt get beaten, but it's a nice thought.

[kentuck]

23. A lesson for all you youngsters here....

Now you know why the "hippies" in the 60's called them "pigs"...

[sabrina 1]

26. Caption should be: Exercising his 1st Amendment rights in the Land of the Free.

Isn't Democracy great? No wonder the Egyptian protesters, when asked, responded that 'no, we do not want US Style Democracy'.

But the NYPD has proved one of the points of these protests. That nearly all of our institutions have been bought and paid for by Wall St. including our Police Departments, paid for by the people, but working for Corporate America.

[Liberal_in_LA]

31. kick

[Special Prosciuto]

33. I see theatrics

Looks like the legendary Jerry Springer show. Every participant either mugging for the lens or snapping the scene. Is that Peter Noone standing at right? Tragicomic opera does not contribute to a righteous cause, as I believe OWS is indeed.

Trash acting from either side does not a legitimate movement make.

[Tsiyu]

41. Huh?

Your review is noted.

You judge an entire movement based on one picture.


Interesting.

[Hutzpa]

43. So you could not sum up what is going

and the best you could do is to try and discredit the image.

[yawnmaster]

34. Why is he being restrained? eom

[lynne]

39. No clue what to think as they're isn't any context here -

- no idea what was going on. The guy looks alert, hand around cops thigh - and that rather surprises me. He's not sweating or red in the face so don't see any signs of distress. No blood, bruises. Glasses still on his head. He has at least one free hand - can't see his feet - so he's not totally helpless. Officer appears calm, as well. IMO, he looks to be in good shape for the situation he's in and it appears to be a protest arrest.

[Bloke 32]

44. That man is clearly attacking the policeman's knee with his neck!

Well, I am shocked! Shocked, I say!