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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:53 AM
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The US Navy goes green with solar and biodiesel
The Clinton Global Initiative is all about forging partnerships between industry and non-governmental organizations, focused on sustainable economic development. It is not the sort of place you'd expect to find a discussion of the challenges of military deployments. Yet this year's CGI meeting featured a talk by someone who spends his days at the Pentagon, as the US Navy's Deputy Assistant Secretary for Energy Thomas Hicks told the audience how the Navy has taken sustainable technology from testing to deployment in six months, and is gearing up to make the largest purchase of biofuels ever.

Saying "We rely too much on foreign oil," Hicks told two parallel tales of how the Navy was pushing ahead with sustainable technology. The first focused on the support of US Marines (ground troops that are part of the Navy) in forward bases in Afghanistan. The electronics that now support the Marines require significant amounts of electric power which, in the past, has meant diesel generators. That, in turn, has meant a series of tenuous ground convoys that start in Pakistan and face frequent insurgent attacks on the way to their destination. The Navy estimates that it costs one life for every 50 of the convoys they run.

To cut down on fuel use, the Navy created what they termed an experimental forward operating base, or ExFOB, in Virginia. Industry was invited to bring in any technology that could cut fuel use or generate power on site, and try to integrate it into an existing base's architecture. Not everything worked, but those technologies that did were brought to a wargame two months later. Within six months, the first field deployment occurred. That's a pretty rapid pace by most standards.

The technology involved is nothing revolutionary—LED lighting and shades with integrated photovoltaic systems—but the reductions were very substantial: 30 percent to 90 percent reductions in energy use. More significantly, patrols that were in the field used to require fresh batteries roughly every other day. They can now go up to three weeks without a battery refresh. The first deployments were so successfully that the Marines are rolling it out in all their battalions. It will require a substantial initial payment, but the program will pay for itself within six months, and provide $50 million in savings annually from there on out. The ExFOBs are now an annual event for the Marines.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/09/the-us-navy-goes-green-with-solar-and-biodiesel.ars
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:57 AM
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1. I will let you all in a dirty secret
well..not really a secret. ;-) You see all those oil rigs out in the Gulf? They need power to run...and you guessed it they are turning to Green Energy now. Irony of ironies indeed.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:57 AM
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2. But but but...
...if the military goes to biofuels and solar cells to eliminate oil consumption... why will we need the military to protect oil companies?


I'm sure the Repubes and Big Oil are working frantically to get the Pentagon back on track with burning dead dinosaurs.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 05:24 PM
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7. The military is a very small percentage of oil use.
The everyday American citizens burn far more oil going about their daily routines. There will still be a need for the oil companies without military use. This switch is good for defense as this combined with a large and powerful navy protects us from embargoes from a hostile nation. And with Climate Change, I think this century will outpace the last in blood shed.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:10 AM
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3. So - what can we attribute to the military and/or the arms race?
Interstate highway system

Internet

Personal computers

Anything with a chip in it


and now - cheap carbon neutral renewable power?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 05:16 PM
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4. Wait till they reveal they have operable hydrogen generators and battlefield lasers
oops, forgot, they do. Ready for the alien invasion sir....or zombies
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 05:18 PM
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5. Joe Barton to apologize in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
I can't wait for Rep. Barton to apologize to his corporate overlords, and vow to get to the bottom of this travesty.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 05:22 PM
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6. What are tea baggers going to rally around now that the
military is gone hippie?


Can the rest of the people have some too?
:hippie: :patriot:
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 05:26 PM
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8. The military would not mess around
They know we are running out of oil in a few years and need to get prepared. All the political lies about oil is just posturing. The military is independent of political B.S. Although, I'm sure the reserves we are saving is for their use, so it is slightly surprising that they would be concerned about it. They must be concerned that Repukes will take over and consume their reserves.
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