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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:59 PM
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Are the plutocrats looking to turn economies into a new kind of apartheid?
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 11:01 PM by applegrove
Cause in Apartheid, as soon as you required any government assistance you were kicked outside the South African economy and into the impoverished bantu stands. That would be kids who needed public education, retirees, sick people, unemployed people, mothers with young kids, etc... And the huge numbers of unemployed would then compete with each other for limited jobs, lowering wages. Is that what the plutocrats have in store for Americans?
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:02 PM
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1. They want to live like kings and queens, with the rest of us frightened and disposable.
They want a state of control with zero accountability.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:10 PM
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3. And if they can manage to maintain it to the end of their generation...
...they're not even concerned about the world they're leaving for their own children. It's almost as if the human drive for self-preservation has somehow become shortwired in such people. Their behavior is no longer adaptive or sustainable.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:46 PM
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5. The nearest analogy would be "cancer".
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:03 PM
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2. Yes, of course. Why one earth the wuestion? I thought it was obvious.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:12 PM
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4. There would seem to be a confusion of relative wealth with absolute wealth.
Its not new. I talked to a lot of people who lived through the Great Depression, and they all said the same thing: There were people with money that were hoarding, and basically all the circulation of money stopped. These hoarders were afraid, too afraid to spend or invest. So they did whatever it took to hold on to their money, including living in poverty themselves, which is the strange part. So the idea that putting the majority into poverty leads to some kind of long term better life for the rich may itself be wrong.
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:58 PM
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6. Uh. I think it happened a long time ago.
You just described Cincinatti, NOLA, Detroit and most urban areas. I live in an urban area and I know I have been discriminated against in hiring and insurance because of my zip code.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 12:02 AM
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7. We passed that post quite a long time ago.
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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 02:05 AM
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8. very powerful metaphor and framing
I'd never heard that analogy before, but I think that would help a lot more swing voter types instantly grasp what is happening than grasp it now.

We say income inequality, or 400 families, or long explanations, and Americans have been raised to not see economic exploitation.

Economic apartheid is a much more useful term.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 02:20 AM
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9. Glad you like it. I had a african history teacher named Jean Parpart.
She gave the most wonderful lecture on Apartheid (this was in the 1980s).
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sam11111 Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:31 AM
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10. "population reduction" 96 % to starve
Edited on Sun Sep-18-11 07:49 AM by sam11111
When we get to one billionaire ruling earth, he will only need 300 million folks to make the luxuries he needs.

The rest will just be troublemakers... to be "reduced". By whatever means are handy.

Heard idea on Norrie nite radio. Guest was Katherine austin Fitz. Her idea was LW....but sadly she endorses ron paul the RW retromingent. Whom I oppose heartily.

Anyone heard this pop reduc idea from a purely LW source? I hate to refer readers to Fitz.

Fitz is an odd mix of LW and RW ideas. Norrie also.
Radio show is "Coast to Coast".

I think website has "am" added to the name part...time of day not am band...because another odd site has the basic name owned already.
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