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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:23 PM
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A conservative is someone who maintains that health care is not a fundamental right, but ...
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:25 PM
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1. I want my free gun
Edited on Thu Jan-13-11 03:37 PM by slackmaster
:hi:

Auto-Unrec for conflating rights with entitlements.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:25 PM
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2. It's the culture of life...
for fetuses and death to all others.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:26 PM
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3. They reject the idea that we're all one, but embrace the idea that we're
separate from each other.

Both ideas are true, of course. They just can't deal with more than one.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:27 PM
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4. fits their hate meme
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:32 PM
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5. WE are free to shoot people, but THEY can only receive medical care
for their gunshot wounds if they have lots of money.

Yeah, that's it.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:34 PM
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6. Gun ownership is in the US Constitution.
So like it or not, it is a right that the government can't take away.

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:37 PM
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8. "..well regulated militia..." is in the Constitution. Bubba with a machine gun is not. n/t
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:48 PM
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9. 1+
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:22 PM
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18. I'm for strict gun regulation ...
But you need to learn to read the Constitution and recognize that the Constitution does not GIVE rights, so much as it describes those rights which the government can not abridge.

Take your logic and apply it to gay marriage. Since gay marriage is not explicitly referenced (like your mythical bubba), then Gay marriage isn't a right under your logic.

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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:05 PM
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15. So is "...promote the general welfare.."....
I prefer to stretch that particular part of the Constitution, rather than the "bearing arms" part.

What could be more fundamental to the general welfare than health?
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:27 PM
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20. I agree ...
"General Welfare" should include Heath care.

That fact does not refute my point.

btw ... I am anti-gun. Don't own one, never will. Think that the rules for ownership should be much tighter.

When Scalia speaks of "strict construction" and that you have to read the Constitution as written and not bring in current day concerns (which he did to claim EO for women in not in the Constitution), I happily point out that, if we read the 2nd amendment as it was written with a mindset of the times, then individuals can own muskets and single shot pistols.

Misunderstandings of the Constitution are bad when the right does it, and when folks on DU do it.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:36 PM
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7. A liberal is someone who claims health care IS a fundamental right,
then works against a robust public option.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:50 PM
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11. Example please. Are you sure you're not taking all of the anonymous on the internet at face value?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:00 PM
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16. You've got your terminology wrong
What you've described is not a liberal but an Obama.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:50 PM
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10. Jesus' 2 greatest commandments, Republican-style
1. Hate abortion and homosexuality with all your heart and soul, for these are the only things my Father cares about
2. Thy right to bear arms shalt not be infringed
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:51 PM
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12. Recommend
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svsuman23 Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 03:56 PM
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13. the Constitution does grant us one of your examples as a right..
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:04 PM
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14. "Someone has a right to shoot you, you have no real right to health care when they do"
That about sums it up, all right.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:08 PM
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17. It's not and the 2nd Amendment is
Are you saying millions should vote for a conservative instead of President Obama again?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:25 PM
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19. What would this country be like if less people believed that being an American meant owning a gun. n
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