Humane Society president says Vick would be good pet owner

[Freddie Stubbs]

Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Sit. Rollover. Good doggy.

Those are words that Michael Vick apparently doesn't gets to say since a judge temporarily banned him from owning a dog as part of his criminal sentence.

Now, the man who gained infamy for dogfighting is saying publicly that he misses owning them.

"I would love to get another dog in the future," he told a Website called theGrio in an article published Wednesday. "I think it would be a big step for me in the rehabilitation process. I think just to have a pet in my household and to show people that I genuinely care, and my love, and my passion for animals."

Read more: http://www.ajc.com/news/humane-society-president-says-7...

[hlthe2b]

1. Tell that to the humanitarian foundation that had to deal with the

carnage and which Vick has never even acknowledged nor offered to help. AHS is manipulating the situation to their benefit. I can't blame them for that. But, they lose credibility with this BS fawning over such a detestable man.

[catgirl]

21. I'm sure Best Friends will never let him get away with it

Of course, he's probably just working on his image. Such a nice guy.

[cleanhippie]

2. Pass the salt and butter, please.

[Jamastiene]

4. Front row seats.

Got any of that cool powdered cheddar cheese. It's great on too.

[TwilightGardener]

3. Why would anyone let this man have a pet? I wouldn't let a convicted

child molester babysit, either. Just common sense.

[LanternWaste]

5. I think he'll live just fine...

He has another multi-million dollar contract. I think he'll live just fine without having another dog to terrori... oops, I mean hug and love.

[mudderfudder77]

13. As an FYI:

Vick's creditors are scheduled to receive 12 million dollars by 2015. Although his salary this year is roughly 4.15 million - Vick is living on an allowance set by the bankruptcy court - from Yahoo Sports:


A 112-page, court-approved document serves as Vick's "reorganization plan." It was uncovered by ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson.

Among the facts Munson discovered in the plan:

• Two-thirds of every dollar Vick earns goes to creditors and taxes.

• The rest of the money is strictly controlled. Think of it as an allowance.

• Vick can spend $4,250 per month on rent and utilities and $472 per month on a car. His mother, who was on Vick's payroll during his headier, pre-prison days, can receive $2,500 per month.

• Other obligations Vick owes include mortgages, child support, fees for his agent (who gets $800,000 through 2015) and for his tax lawyers (who will eventually receive a total of $2.6 million). The allowance does allow for Vick to pay $1,355 per month for private school for the two children he has with his fiancee, Kijafa Frink. (Munson calls it a "rare bit of extravagance.")

• His creditors stand to receive $12 million through 2015, provided Vick continues to receive a multi-million dollar salary.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/D...

I'm not going to cry for Vick - but he also isn't living it up on a 4 million dollar contract

[kanrok]

20. This adds to the likelihood

that his "rehabilitation" is based on his need to make more dough.

[petronius]

51. Yep. He needs a dog as a prop to show that he's now a new-and-improved Mr. Nice Guy,

so that he can pull down some bucks off the field and after his playing days. He probably should have had someone proofread that statement for him - people that really care about being rehabilitated don't segue into public image concerns in the very next sentence...

[awoke_in_2003]

28. those are odd numbers...

he can afford to live in a mansion, but has to drive a Ford Probe? Not that I feel sorry for the asshat, but the housing and car allowance seem way out of whack.

[LanternWaste]

41. Nice work if you can get it.

"$4,250 per month on rent and utilities and $472 per month on a car..."

Nice work if you can get it.

[Creative]

44. It's interesting to note that his lawyers (including his agent) will get more than anyone else.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

47. Yeah, aren't lawyers evil? HAW HAW HAW!

[Creative]

48. Naw...just greedy.

Vick appeared in U.S. bankruptcy court in Newport News, Va., on Thursday for a hearing on the fees his lawyers are seeking in the case. Vick's lead bankruptcy lawyers from Crowell & Moring had asked the court to approve more than $2.6 million in fees and expenses for 7,200 billable hours of work over ten months.
"I don't understand how that happens," U.S. bankruptcy judge Frank Santoro said at the hearing, according to The Associated Press. (The billable time would equate to working 24 hours a day on the Vick case for 300 straight days.)

http://amlawdaily.typepad.com/amlawdaily/2009/07/the-ba...

[rug]

6. He should start off with a cat.

[awoke_in_2003]

30. If you will torture dogs...

you will torture cats. The only cat he should be allowed to have is a lion.

[alphafemale]

62. Yeah...A lion with boundary dysplasia

[LanternWaste]

42. I'm thinking roaches... the big, nasty ones that fly and have an attitude

I'm thinking roaches... the big, nasty ones that fly and have an attitude.

[Angry Dragon]

7. Let him start with an ant farm

ohh ...and make him pay about $3 mil to animal shelters
just for the heck of it

[timefortherevolution]

38. Only if the ant farm is virtual. I wouldn't trust him with a stuffed animal.

When you're capable of slamming a dog against the pavement in an effort to kill, you're BEYOND redemption.

[jtuck004]

8. But they get donations from this issue, and him. Of course

they are going to be on that side.

They do some very, very good things for animals. They are also an incredible donation-sucking machine, and it is not clear that
this strategy is the most effective for the animals they say they represent. Many of their ads use a local shelter-like theme, yet they operate NO shelters. They are involved in lots of legislative efforts, some international.

The HSUS has $160,000,000 in assets, spends about 24 cents of every dollar on fundraising

More here...

Depends on where you sit in the animal welfare world as to whether they are good or bad. But if you want to help your local shelter, donate or volunteer at your local shelter.

[catgirl]

19. Every year they bring up the slaughter of seals

They show bloodied baby seals and ask for donations. Every year, the same thing and nothing has changed for
the seals. Nothing. Meanwhile Pacelle makes a large salary.

[flvegan]

66. Really?

Hm. HSUS' anti-sealing campaign and ongoing collection of horrible video and images was one of the biggest parts of the 2009 ban on seal products in the EU. Did you know that because of that ban, the 2010 seal hunt had almost zero demand for pelts? One buyer. One. That demand and low ice meant roughly 50 sealing ships left to hunt seals. Down quite a bit from the usual 400-500.

But yeah, nothing has changed for them.

[catgirl]

71. There are many anti-seal hunt groups

Greenpeace probably the most affective. The killing of "white seals" was banned long ago. Some groups kept using the image to
drum up donations though. HSUS is/was one of them- just as they used the idea that they were still rescuing pets in New Orleans
more than a year after the event, even though they WEREN'T- just to pray on animal lovers for donations.

Some facts in this article that I just googled about seal hunting quotas, etc.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/05/05/f-seal-hunt.h...

[flvegan]

74. Greenpeace? Really?

I could Google "biggest idiots working on the seal hunt", and that's what I'd get.

So again, the EU banned importing seal products. Did so largely on the footage HSUS provided and what Sea Shepherd did.

You want to try again?

HSUS, UAN and PETA were on the ground liberating and saving animals post Katrina. If you have something to disprove that, please post it here.

[catgirl]

78. I didn't say HSUS WASN'T there

Peta wasn't visible at all. Don't know where you get that. You didn't answer my question. Were you in Gonzoles, or not? You answered "shut up".

I was very involved myself- the WHOLE TIME. I worked with all the groups there. I know what went down. So perhaps YOU should shut up.

[TBF]

50. They're not getting another cent from me. nt

[flvegan]

9. The politics of animal rights/welfare.

a/k/a why flvegan will never head a major organization

[GodlessBiker]

10. I stuffed animal, maybe. See if he rips its head off.

[Marnie]

23. He's never go for it.

No violence, no screaming in pain, no blood, not death.

[eggplant]

11. I'm sure there are convicted felons who could be good gun owners too

and I don't feel bad for them either.

[Heywood J]

12. "I would love to get another dog in the future,"

No doubt. They made him a lot of money when he was making them gruesomely fight to the death in a ring for his pleasure and profit. That's what he means by "love and passion for animals".

He should have been banned permanently from all pets and done more prison time.

[texastoast]

14. May a salted Vick be torn apart slowly by a bunch of pit bulls

As his way of dying.

Fuck him.

[jtuck004]

15. Preferrably piranha - he's already given the pitties enough pain n/t

[catgirl]

16. Pacelle is a sellout

Who kept $20+ million that were donated to the Katrina animal rescue cause. He pulled out early and didn't leave a dime to
the groups who stayed on to continue rescue operations.

Wayne Pacelle cares about money over animals. He piggybacks on others successes and claims them as his own. Look up their
campaigns. Today I was asked to sign a petition to get a farm in Virginia to honor its promise to stop using gestation crates
in 2017. 2017!!??!!

[superduperfarleft]

26. +1000.

HSUS is a fucking disgrace.

[flvegan]

53. I wish I could tell you how wrong you are.

[catgirl]

55. I know firsthand

There is nothing wrong in my statements.

[flvegan]

57. Yeah there is.

You're talking about a personal friend of mine.

Your statements = shit.

[ZombieHorde]

58. What do you think about Wayne Pacelle's endorsement of Vick getting a pet dog? nt

[flvegan]

63. Hate it.

But, as I stated in my original response to this, I hate the politics of large animal rights/welfare organizations. That's all this is.

[catgirl]

69. You don't know your friend very well then

[flvegan]

75. Yes I do.

Prove me wrong, or shut up.

[catgirl]

73. Were you in Gonzales?

Were you there when the HSUS pulled out early, even though thousands of pets were still in need of rescue?
Do you know that a large part of the Katrina donations didn't go towards the rescue of the animal victims?
Nothing was given to the groups that stayed behind. These statements are shit???

I have an email from Pacelle that proves his character and his attitude about the animals left behind. It was
forwarded to me. Because the friend Pacelle emailed is also a friend of mine, I never released it.

[Name removed]

76. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator.

[catgirl]

79. You're rude and uninformed

Are all of your conversations like this? You attack someone who was on the ground, behind the scenes and continued to work with the remaining groups.
HSUS vowed to pass along some money that was donated specifically to the NOLA pet rescues. People DID donate for this specific disaster, not to HSUS in
general. BTW, HSUS, unlike the ASPCA- a large rescue group- doesn't follow the rescue, shelter, rehabilitate and adopt out. They take the money and run.

I know. I was there. YOU weren't. PETA wasn't either. They sent out emails. Big deal. I didn't see the. I saw Best Friends, Mutt Shack, ASPCA, Noah's Wish,
Farm Sanctuary and others. PETA? No. You're the clueless one. Too funny that you are such an attack freak when you are so ignorant of the situation.

Tell me how much HSUS made in donations for this purpose. And then tell me how much they spent. Then tell me whether you think they pulled up stakes
too early. You seem to be ignoring these questions. If you don't have the answers, or if you don't want to answer them at all- fine. Just don't sling your
insults at me because you're unhappy with the facts. Fox news does that shit. We're better than that.

I was one of the rescuers downtown. We got down and dirty to save animals. We were stunned when HSUS bailed. Then stunned that they took the money
and ran.

[nolabear]

17. Doggie Alive, like the high school kids get.

One year with a video camera and a robo-dog that craps on the rug at midnight and who eats and then barfs up your shoes.

[truthisfreedom]

18. He can show his big heart for animals by starting a charitable foundation that assists

people with excessive pet vet bills, spaying/neutering, finds homes for unwanted and stray pets, and the like.

He'll have all the pets he can play with.

[awoke_in_2003]

32. and don't forget the program...

that helps vets get over PTSD with dogs.

[Marnie]

22. LIke letting a convicted pedophile adopt.

He has already proved his is a sadist who enjoy causing and watching extreme violence and suffering and death of innocent animals, and thinks of animals as tools to satisfy that pleasure.

Why would he all or a sudden want a "pet" when he demonstrably doesn't not know the meaning of the word.

[cleanhippie]

33. Hahahaha! Yours takes the cake, so far.

By far, the most outrageous equivocation.

[northernlights]

24. How do you plan to show your love and passion, vick?

Hanging by neck until dead?
Wetting down and electrocuting?
Playing "jumprope" with a dog, swinging by his tail and slamming head into ground until you've beaten him to death?

You filthy piece of shit. So you think you should have a dog in your for the purpose of *your* rehabilition and pr? For *your* use?

You don't know the fucking definition of love, you piece of shit.

Most people convicted of animal cruelty are banned from ownership for life. THEIR LIVES, VICK, NOT THE LIVES OF THE DOGS THEY TORTURED AND KILLED.

Please universe, god, goddess, mother earth, do NOT let any fool give or sell this murderous, torturing piece of shit another sentient being to be the target of his "passion" and "love."

Thank god the assholes at HSUS don't actually have any animals in their "protection." Until now I withheld judgement when I read bad things about them. Now I think they are fucking assholes. In fact I'm sure they are. Thank goodness I never wasted money donating to them.

[finecraft]

25. Last election I got a card from them asking me to vote for

David Vitter! The card had pictures of little puppies and kitties on it with talk balloons above their pictures that said "If we could vote in this election we would vote for Senator David Vitter. He is a true friend of animals". So I should vote for David Vitter because he likes puppies and kitties?!?!?!? He also likes prostitutes, but I didn't get any mail pieces from call girls on behalf of Vitter. Right then and there I quit donating to them. I don't need or want them spending my donations to get David Vitter reelected.

[awoke_in_2003]

27. fuck you, Michael. nt

[emilyg]

40. Yes.

[pecwae]

56. Hugely.

[LiberalFighter]

29. How is he going to spend enough time with any pet he has

when he a more than full time job with the NFL? Has to spend at least 2 days out of town at least 8 weeks out of the year.

[northernlights]

31. Sit. Rolloever. Good doggy. Is that what you were saying when you did this? warning graphic

What happened? Didn't come when you called? Sit when you asked?

[lunatica]

35. Jesus! Only a monster would do that to another living thing.

[lunatica]

34. Every dog lover on the planet knows he's lying his ass off because

dog lovers love all dogs, not just the one's they own.

Fucking asshole should never go near another dog in his entire life. Not unless it's rabid and bites him.

[Leftist Agitator]

36. Unrec.

This shit is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

[LanternWaste]

43. I imagine most people believe they have knowledge of what is or is not inconsequential

I imagine most people believe they have knowledge of what is or is not inconsequential. I would also imagine most people are wrong in that particular form of self-validating hubris.

But if you're speaking of the Grand Scheme, I'd hazard it's all a bit inconsequential. In a million years, canyons and mountain ranges will laugh at our politics, our message boards and all our cares, worries and concerns.

Except for yours, of course...


ed: sp

[meeshrox]

37. Not saying in know the OP's intentions...

but this thread has turned into yet another one calling for physical violence against another person.

Yes, he did unspeakable things to innocent animals. He did his time in jail and is still paying the monetary debt that our justice system determined to be fair punishment for the crimes.

I'm sick of reading this filth.

[hlthe2b]

60. I'm sick of reading about that filth...

He is scum. Those that fawn over him because they want to be entertained, speak to the worst of our societal woes-- the ready ability to ignore heinous acts if the person is beautiful, rich, famous, or has athletic talents. That is my opinion. I speak for those who can not.

[meeshrox]

77. This thread is full of reactionary statements

I do not fawn over him nor would I ignore heinous acts because he's a great football player. I do not condone acts of violence toward any person or animal, especially if others believe that he deserves the horrific and violent death of being mauled by *insert poisonous/sharp-clawed animal here*.

The whole eye-for-an-eye thing is so old testament...

[Bragi]

39. Are dogfight bans class/race-based in America?

Just wondering.

[Safetykitten]

45. Wayne Pacelle does not work for the Humane Society. He is a paid operative for MV.

Wayne Pacelle has been a shill for MV since day one, and should really resign at this point.

[flvegan]

54. (facepalm)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

46. Hum...

[blondeatlast]

61. I never in my life thought seeing a pic of Vick could make me laugh this hard.

That pic is superb.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

80. XOXOXO

[TBF]

49. Wayne needs to resign - what a moron. nt

[Altoid_Cyclist]

52. Michael Vick is about as "rehabilitated" as Jayson Williams.

They become such outstanding citizens once they go to prison.

Vick tortured and killed many dogs while Williams killed his limo driver and his dog and threatened to kill at least one other human. They talk a good game once they are convicted, but I can't help but feel that it's motivated by financial considerations only.

Excerpt from CBS News & AP:

Former New Jersey Nets player Dwayne Schintzius told investigators that he and Williams bet $100 that Schintzius could not drag Williams' Rottweiler out of his house. Schintzius said he won the bet and told Williams to pay up. An angry Williams went inside, returned with a shotgun and killed the dog, Schintzius said.

The former teammate told investigators that Williams pointed the gun at him and told him to clean up the dog's remains "or you're next."

Williams, 36, still faces a retrial on charges of reckless manslaughter in the limo driver's death because a jury deadlocked on that charge in April.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/23/national/main...

[Creative]

59. Michael Vick's story is one of redemption.

If you don't believe me, check out who's leading in the voting that determines who goes to the pro bowl.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/15/nfl-pro-bowl-voting-...

[lukasahero]

64. Time to cancel my monthly donation

to HSUS and give it Best Friends. Too bad, I think they do good work but I just can't stand with them on this issue.

As for Vick - this "to show people that I" says it all. It's not about making amends. It's about convincing people of his changed image. Fuckwad will never be forgiven by me.

[AnnieBW]

65. Get an iguana

They're not cute and cuddly, but you can't make them fight, either.

[beam me up scottie]

67. Okay, he can have a pet, just not a dog.

How about a cuddly little black mamba?

If he plays with it nicely and doesn't get bitten, it'll prove he's sincere.

The people who handle snakes for Jesus can give him tips.

[Ahpook]

68. Keep that fucker away from these precious babes, period

He can fill his house with stuffed animals. Ripping the plastic eyes out of those may appease his freakish habits?

[jmowreader]

70. I have just the perfect pet for Mr. Vick

[AmandaMae]

72. A pet rock, maybe. He should never get to have another dog.

[backscatter712]

81. For all the talk about how Vick's sentence was overly harsh...

in terms of prison and fines and such...

He was convicted of heinous acts of animal abuse and animal killing!

What's so harsh about telling him he's not allowed to own pets?