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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:51 PM
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Best Presidential Address in Decades!
If you don't like some of it, listen to the rest.

Dynamite!
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:51 PM
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1. I totally agree. The ball is in the Repugs court now.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:52 PM
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2. Waiting for the dogpile in 3...2...1...
:hi:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:04 PM
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26. Let the dogpile begin. It doesn't matter.
What matters is what happens tomorrow and down the road. This is just a kickoff. There's an entire game to play. It was, in short, a masterful speech. If he follows through, it will be a win.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:53 PM
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3. He killed it!
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:53 PM
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4. agreed
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:54 PM
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5. Hit it out of the ballpark


Pass this bill now.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:54 PM
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6. only decades?
why do you hate obama?
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:54 PM
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7. He started slowly, finished strong. I like it alot. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:54 PM
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8. I think he nailed this 100%. I don't agree with everything in the
speech, but that's not what's important. He simply brought it!
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:28 PM
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38. If you don't agree with everything, then he didn't nail it 100%... that's just what 100% means...
Maybe you should be honest and just say 93.77%, for instance. Just saying... ;) try to keep it "fact based".
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:40 PM
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43. It depends on what the goal of this speech was. I believe he
met that goal 100%. I will never agree 100% with anything any President or Congress does. I'm not about that. It's all in direction, not specifics.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:55 PM
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9. He brought to point their culpability, in the way things are.Comparisons
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 06:56 PM by orpupilofnature57
in the philosophies of Economical cures was smart.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:55 PM
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10. Actions speak louder than words.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 06:56 PM by Lucian
Good speeches don't help those who need the help.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:56 PM
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12. He's not a dictator, obstructionists will continue to block.
And if they do they will lose their respectively elections.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:00 PM
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16. This is how a President acts. His power is in his speech.
Presidents of the United States cannot DO that much. They have to lead people to insist that Congress do things. This speech was masterful.

You can say what you wish. It will not detract from the power of this particular address. Now...we get to see what Congress is really made of.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:00 PM
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17. Dupe.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:00 PM by MineralMan
DU posting glitch.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:56 PM
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11. He completely destroyed the Republican party in 45 minutes.
Utterly destroyed, eviscerated.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:56 PM
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13. Pass this bill. -- great line to hammer the GOP with. American Job Act. Another winner. Very strong.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:57 PM
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14. It was a great speech. Looks like taxes are going up for
the wealthy and less tax loopholes for corporations. Jobs for teachers and construction workers. Maybe some help for homeowners in trouble.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:29 PM
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39. Well....
to say taxes are going up for the wealthy and less tax loopholes for corporations may be a little wishful thinking.The president's bill, to be submitted tomorrow, will propose an increase, but that doesn't mean it will happen.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:59 PM
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15. For this moment, it was an "A".
The trade agreement push was wrong, and more could've been right, but he hit it out of the park in my opinion. I have a hunch he will follow through and hold the Repubs' feet to the fire too, if they obstruct it. He seemed determined.

I criticize a lot about the POTUS, I'm not a cheerleader, but I believe in credit where credit's due.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:01 PM
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21. Tonight, we had only this moment.
Tomorrow is another day. Obama owned this moment.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:03 PM
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24. I agree. n//t
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:16 PM
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31. And tomorrow he is going to be in Richmond
Cantor territory. And next Tuesday in Columbus which happens to be in OH.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:31 PM
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40. Yup. Obama's on the road again.
Subtle reference to "Local Hero," one of my favorite movies.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:00 PM
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18. Boehner fought back tears.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:01 PM
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19. It was awesome
Letting them know he's coming to their districts to lobby on behalf of the voters was genius.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:01 PM
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20. This was a great and historic speech by Pres. Obama
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:08 PM by avaistheone1
He really needs to regularly take the bully pulpit and hammer the ideas in his speech home, until this speech is on everyone's tongues in this country.

Obama also needs to go forward and not cave at every Republican move and whim. If Obama keeps the momentum with his speeches and dealings with the republicans and maintains,furthers and starts to institute the concepts he brought forward tonight - despite a lot of the crap Obama has done - I think he will win himself a second term.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:02 PM
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23. It was. And I hope he learns something from its success.
If he follows through on this, he will not only get reelected, he will get much of this enacted in Congress.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:02 PM
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22. K & R
:thumbsup:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:03 PM
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25. Loved it. K&R n/t
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:05 PM
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27. I think it was a home run...
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:05 PM by AsahinaKimi
But..I think the Republicans will fight this tooth and claw. He needs to take this on the road and get the American people behind him, over the Republican idiots.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:09 PM
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28. He's going to take it on the road. Just watch him.
The Republicans know what happened tonight, and they have no defense against it.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:17 PM
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32. Yep.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:10 PM
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29. Deleted message
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:14 PM
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30. ?
14-year-old boy? Do go on... :eyes:
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:17 PM
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33. lol. enjoy your stay
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:23 PM
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36. Damn I wanted to ask him if he liked his pizza by ....
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:24 PM by Botany
..... the slice?

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:17 PM
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34. No. Incorrect. Nice try.
But fail.
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rury Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:20 PM
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35. It was the BEST I have heard in my lifetime
and I am 60 years old and have heard lots of presidential addresses!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:24 PM
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37. I'm 66 years old. I have to say that JFK's inaugural address
topped this, but not by much, and it was a different speech for a different time.
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rury Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:50 PM
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47. I liked JFK's inaugural speech a lot, but Obama topped it tonight
It was just pitch perfect for the crisis we are facing.
The ball is in Congress court now...let's see what they do with it.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:32 PM
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41. I wish I could see it.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:37 PM by jpgray
To my mind, the jobs bill amounts to the 2009 stimulus cut in half. Unfortunately a great deal of it is tax cuts, which put more money in the hands of people who are desperately paying down debt (consumers) or hoarding capital awaiting a shift in demand (large employers). I don't see how that leads to jobs. Wells Fargo or whoever paying half the taxes on their first $5 million in payroll won't mean much to them in choosing to hire when large employers are hoarding trillions, but it is lost revenue to us.

The great and necessary parts of it, UI extension, aid to states, and infrastructure spending, are all sensible measures but only the last guarantees the creation of jobs. The first undoes some of the damage from lack of work, the second will save many jobs, but it's strange to me that the job-creating portion of the bill adds up to less than an eighth of the whole.

As for the rest, free trade, lowering the corporate tax rate and Medicare reform are not the stuff of inspiration. Maybe if you're David Brooks?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:38 PM
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42. OK. Wait and see what happens. Seriously.
This is not a speech of specifics. It is a speech about breaking barriers and enlisting popular support. I think it succeeded masterfully at that. Right now, that's the thing that's needed. Put it to the Republicans. The President, himself, can do very little. He can, however galvanize public support to shift the Republicans off their asses. That's that this speech was about. The measures will do something. The people will do the rest. There is no quick solution to this. It will require another term and a new Congress.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:49 PM
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46. Obama outclasses his opponents in responsibility, brains and policy
That always comes across. But this was just as true, and should have been just as obvious, in 2010. I'm not sure how the same (or very similar) ideas will produce a different effect on the public. I guess I wanted something new, bold, and out of left field. Of course it would never pass, but it would hold more of a place in people's minds, I think, than tax credits.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:54 PM
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48. What this speech did was to call out Republicans.
That's what it was for. I think it worked.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:42 PM
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44. Agreed. But too bad no pundits afterward, only terror threat
announcement...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:49 PM
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45. A Republi-CON. That's what that terror threat is. The Republicans
have no response to Obama's speech.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:17 PM
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49. Well, I'm Fucking Pissed Off, Personally -- You All Can Party All You Want...
x(

I had an emergency dental deal, dammit.

So, the speech, it was a good one, eh?

:shrug:
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:29 PM
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50. "Meep, Meep Motherfuckers!" Or to put it more genteelly ...
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