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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:56 PM
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What Democrats can do about Obama
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/09/04/favoritesonsanddaughters

A Democrat argues that the party's 2012 nomination should be debated -- with all options open

From the debt ceiling fiasco to the recent rescheduling of a jobs speech at the behest of Speaker Boehner, it has not been a good summer for President Obama. Like Chinese water torture, Gallup's daily tracking poll has shown a steady and unrelenting drip of bad news. He has been in and out of the high 30s for his approval, and in the low to mid-50s for his disapproval.

George W. Bush's approval rating didn't drop this low until Katrina hit. And on the economy, 71 percent of Americans disapprove of how Obama is doing his job. Even among reliably Democratic groups -- union households, women and young people -- he's now unpopular.

No one, not even the president's defenders, expect his coming jobs speech to mean anything. When the president spoke during a recent market swoon, the market dropped another 100 points. Democrats may soon have to confront an uncomfortable truth, and ask whether Obama is a suitable choice at the top of the ticket in 2012. They may then have to ask themselves if there's any way they can push him off the top of the ticket.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:00 PM
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1. k/r (rec to 0)
I know there are people who don't even want to talk about it, but it needs to be discussed nevertheless.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:02 PM
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I am mad at O, but
Even if someone with the pedigree of Al Gore comes in, you know the MSM will not stop screaming at the sheep the mantra: "Get some strong and wrong, get someone strong and wrong!" If the Msm were not complicit, does anyone think Rick Perry would be the frontrunner? With all die respect, we tried this before in 2000, and anyone who says Gore would have been as bad a president as W. is made of the same weak mental material as the teabaggers. I have NO desire to repeat 2000, period!
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:02 PM
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2. K&R (rec to zero)
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:03 PM
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3. Nothing wrong with picking another
He should step down a la LBJ.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:07 PM
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4. You're wrong about one thing....
"not even the presidents defenders expect his coming jobs speech to mean anything".

This may be true, but they'll never admit it. All we'll hear about is either how bold it is (from the ones with more unmitigated gall) or how "It's the best he can get through and why put his neck out for something that will never pass and he'll be called a failure?!?!".
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:17 PM
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5. One problem is that in determinedly blending policy to the right, voters may see little difference.
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:27 PM
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6. Not a whole hell of a lot.
Just ignore him as best we can.
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adhd_what_huh Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 04:37 PM
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7. feckless craven Obama haters can pound sand.....just sayin'
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 05:31 PM
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8. "feckless & craven?" Ad hominem is a tyro's tawdry fallacious conceit. Just sayin'
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adhd_what_huh Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 05:35 PM
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9. I thought I was just being rude.....but I like your comment. Very smart.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:44 PM
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10. ...
:toast:
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