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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:29 PM
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Ron Paul: I don't accept the theory of evolution

from CBS News:



Watch: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/29/scitech/main2...


Congressman Ron Paul, who is campaigning for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, says that the theory of human evolution is just a theory - and one that he does not accept.

In a YouTube video of Paul addressing what appears to be a town hall meeting in 2007, the Texas representative let listeners know where he stood on the issue.

"Well, first i thought it was a very inappropriate question, you know, for the presidency to be decided on a scientific matter," he said. "I think it's a theory...the theory of evolution and I don't accept it as a theory. But I think the creator that i know, you know created us, every one of us and created the universe and the precise time and manner and all. I just don't think we're at the point where anybody has absolute proof on either side."

A spokesman for the Paul campaign did not immediately respond to calls for comment.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/29/scitech/main2...


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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:31 PM
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1. lol...
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:46 AM
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55. Why focus on Ron Paul out of all those extremists? I am glad he's running.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 09:48 AM by woo me with science
I am glad he is in the race, because he is forcing the candidates to talk about issues that would otherwise be ignored entirely.

He is the ONLY candidate who calls out American empire and warmongering.

And recently he has actually gotten some of the Republican candidates to talk about auditing the Federal Reserve.

Where is our DEMOCRATIC anti-war candidate? Where is our DEMOCRATIC candidate for transparency?

The establishment hates him, because he threatens the status quo re: the banks and the wars. Because of his extreme libertarian views, he has absolutely no chance of getting the nomination.

However, he can do some very good things for the debate.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:31 PM
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2. How did he get through medical school if he doesn't know basic biology?
:shrug:
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:35 PM
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6.  There is no contradiction between faith and science... true science!
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:37 PM
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9. It's truly mind boggling...
and beyond scary at this point.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:46 PM
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19. I honestly think his credentials need to be checked. No snark, I just
really think this man, a doctor, a gynecologist for gawd's sake..Too many questions.
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:46 PM
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20. Oh please -- he DOES know basic biology and he DOES believe in evolution...
... Anybody who thinks this is anything more than the most cynical type of pandering is kidding themselves.
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digonswine Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 08:24 PM
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31. Agreed-he came out with that outlandish-
abortion story(a month ago?) as well to appeal to the women-haters.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 06:44 AM
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53. +1
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:00 AM
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54. As a physician, how does he explain if we're ALL descended from
Adam and Eve, how come we don't share the same DNA?
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:33 PM
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3. Owl: I don't accept the theory of Ron Paul being intelligent.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:34 PM
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4. +1 - nt
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:36 PM
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7. +1000 nt :)
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:34 PM
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5. ideology over evidence and substance....
That is good evidence in itself that Ron Paul is unfit to govern.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:37 PM
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8. *facepalm*
:wtf:
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:38 PM
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10. Confuseus Say: Beware Of Politicians With Two First Names
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 08:22 PM
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29. That wasnt Confucius, that was a fortune cookie. nm
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Roger Floyd Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:40 PM
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11. I don't accept the theory of gravity.
Now watch me fly! Splat!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:40 PM
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12. Pandering the uneducated always has the unintended consequence of alienating educated people
One by one the panderers will fall.
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Baby Bear Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:44 PM
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17. He is too intelligent not to be lying.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:51 PM
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23. I absolutely agree. I think Rick Perry is also intelligent enough to know better.
They're both opportunistic liars IMO. Not Presidential material.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:40 PM
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13. Looney Tunes.
:crazy:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:42 PM
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14. Evolution is a theory. Stupidity is fact. nt
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 10:23 PM
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51. And, really, evolution is a "theory" in the same sense that "the earth is spherical" is a theory.
We KNOW it happens. It has been observed (pepper moth, anyone?).
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:06 AM
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57. yah
ty.

the bald 'his image' monkeys can never accept science, it will tell them that their specialness is now killing the rest of the planet
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:55 AM
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64. Yep. That evolution occurs is a fact; how it happens is the (scientific) theory.
As you say, we have observed evolution. We know it happens. The "theory" part is how it happens, and natural selection is the overwhelmingly accepted mechanism.
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Baby Bear Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:43 PM
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15. Don't Go to Doctor's Who Don't Believe In Evolution
It is the foundation of modern biology.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 08:16 PM
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27. I'm sure that Ron Paul was one of the many Drs whose
day to day work was conducted without consideration of evolution.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:44 PM
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16. Evolution (like gravity) isn't in doubt. Various theories explain how and why it happens...
theories like Natural Selection or Genetic Drift.

So you can disagree with a theory or aspect of a theory that explains evolution (or gravity) but the actual phenomenon itself is a fact.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:45 PM
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18. TOAST TIME.........doomed before the gate opens.....
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:48 PM
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21. Those four sentences are Sarah Palin level stupid...
And it's obvious that he doesn't believe a word of the crap that he's spewing. The GOP nomination battle is a matter of who can out-stupid who. I know many sane people have left the party but there are surely some dyed in the wool types left who are surrounded by morons.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:48 PM
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22. Ron Paul is proof that evolution is only a theory.
Or, as a bumper sticker I once had said, "Fine, I evolved, you didn't."
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 01:31 PM
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41. Actually, his son seems to be poster child for the "backwards evolution" theory.
:evilgrin:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:51 PM
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24. Does not matter if you do or don't....
Evolution is a FACT.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 07:02 PM
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25. He's devolving fast
Once he seemed (yeah, I know appearances are deceiving) like a person who thought through his positions. Now he clearly just wants to out crazy Perry and Bachmann. Kind of like what happened to McCain in the last go round. When does he start yelling "Hey Kids, Get off of my Lawn!"?
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:08 AM
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59. precisely
I used to think he was one of the least-shitty rep.s
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 07:26 PM
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26. "Hi! My name is Ron Paul, and today, instead of talking about the economy and other important
issues that face America today, I'm going to try to collect some GOP primary votes from wackos by sucking up to the anti-evolutionists!"
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 08:19 PM
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28. LOL!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 08:22 PM
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30. How about the theory of gravity? Idiot. nm
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 08:28 PM
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32. Well Doctor Paul I guess opthamology does not require
you to understand the basic workings of science...

MORON!
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 08:35 PM
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33. What does the creation of the universe have to do with the theory of evolution?
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 09:03 PM
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34. Oh dear - I didn't think Ron Paul was one of these... /nt
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 09:07 PM
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35. I hope this puts a rest to the idea of progressives supporting Ron Paul
I would see that floated every now and then by some suggesting that Paul's anti-war stance was worth the support.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 10:03 PM
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36. Only conspiracy theorists vote for Ron Paul.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:56 AM
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37. He is either a bald face liar or a profoundly ignorant human
being. The basic "theory" of evolution has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt. nt
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:10 AM
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60. ooo yah, he's trying to appeal to more conservatives..
I admit I was surprised he'd be this stupid.. maybe he's just campaigning.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:58 AM
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38. Using Ron Paul as an example, I'd have my doubts too.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:00 AM
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39. This thread has turned out to be a very good one. The valid
criticisms of R. Paul apply generally to the entire cast of Republican lying politicians.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:22 AM
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40. The reality is
a candidate must be anti-science to win the Republican nomination for president.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 02:15 PM
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42. I hope this disabuses the few DUers who think this idiot
has anything serious to say of that misperception. Even a blind squirrel finds the odd nut now and then and this guy is just another reichwing asshat. He's just an isolationist reichwing asshat.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:47 PM
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44. Meh, he is no better or worse than what we have now.
Honestly, I don't give two figs about a candidate's beliefs. He could worship a giant flying unicorn, as long as we have a sensible foreign policy, etc. And also, that they don't force their beliefs on us. I don't think what we have right now is anything close to sensible, even though we have a sensible president who agrees with evolution. In fact, I think a little "isolationism" would be a good thing right now. The pendulum has swung way too far to the other side.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:19 PM
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43. That's great, Ron
Real great.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:51 PM
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45. The existance (or lack thereof) of a thing is independent of the belief in it (or lack thereof)
Examples:

Gravity, evolution, Jesus of Nazareth, the divine inspiration of Mohammed, plate tectonics, God, supply-side economics, and whether Decker was a replicant.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:59 PM
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46. Ironically I don't believe in the theory of Ron Paul
Go figure
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:34 PM
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47. PROOF of an UNINTELLIGENT DESIGN!!!!!
:fistbump:

:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:37 PM
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48. LOL
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:40 PM
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49. I don't accept Ron Paul.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 10:20 PM
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50. Yes. I don't accept that he is sane.
How can someone who has Galveston in his district say we should go back to 1900 where Hurricanes are concerned! Oh, yeah! Let's go back to when hurricanes killed lots of people! :crazy:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 06:41 AM
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52. ..
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 09:56 AM
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56. The village idiot is as smart as the village genius.
Maybe even smarter because the village idiot never questions himself.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:08 AM
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58. Hasn't he retired yet? I thought after he bought his beach house in Surfside
he'd give it up and enjoy his grandchildren. Sadly it sounds like he's going senile as well.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:18 AM
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61. One must remember
that he believes, with his whole being in the "theories" of Ayn Rand.

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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:51 AM
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62. Got to wonder how...
...this clown passed the Biology classes needed to get into med school.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:52 AM
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63. the number of ignorant people running for president gets higher every four years
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:56 AM
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65. I'm suspicious of gravity.
It's just a theory. I think that God made stuff heavy enough so it won't float away.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 10:57 AM
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66. If I'd Fathered Rand Paul, My Belief In Evolution Would Be Shaken, As Well. (n/t)
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IndyPragmatist Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:02 AM
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67. Watch the video, its obvious he doesn't believe what he is saying
He is trying to get elected. Ron is a smart guy. He is smarter than anyone else on the Republican ticket. He knows that he has to pretend he is a Creationist to get elected. Just like Obama had to pretend he was a liberal to get past the primary.

One thing I've noticed about Ron Paul, when he talks about things he believes in, he almost gets too excited and talks very fast. He knows what he wants to say and his statements are fluid. This was not fluid one bit, there were numerous "um...." parts and moments of silence. I think it's pretty obvious that he was just playing it up for the religious folks at this event.
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