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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 10:41 PM
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The war machine is expanding...fast


Not that it really helps any of us.
In fact we pay for it.

I just got out of a "plan check review" session today where I work (for a city in the public works department).
Saw the expansion plans that General Atomics is starting...wow.

Huge.
Their parking lots are already full and this new area they are developing will dwarf it.
This tells me that they have contracts far into the future.

It is just so sickening.
People will do anything for money.

If there is karma or there is a god or a judgement day or similar...heaven help these death machine workers souls.

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:03 PM
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1. yeah!
the killing machines win. we're #1!:sarcasm:
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:06 PM
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2. What is General Atomics? Please explain.
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:09 PM
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3. They make drones, among other war weapons. n/t
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:42 AM
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7. Privately-owned large MIC corp. Who owns it?
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 02:51 AM by Ghost Dog
http://www.ga.com/about.php

GA was sold in 1967 to Gulf Oil and renamed Gulf General Atomic. In 1973, GA was again renamed as General Atomic Company when Royal Dutch Shell Group's Scallop Nuclear Inc. became a 50-50 partner in the company. When Gulf Oil bought out its partner, effective January 1, 1982, Gulf subsequently renamed the company GA Technologies Inc. In mid-1984, Chevron took ownership of GA following its merger with Gulf Oil.

In 1986, GA was sold to a company owned by Neal Blue and Linden Blue when it assumed its current name.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics

...

Linden Stanley Blue was born in 1936 in Meeker, CO. He acquired his private pilot's license on Dec. 17, 1955. In 1961, during a flight from Nicaragua, Linden was forced to land in Havana, Cuba and was jailed for 12 days, just prior to the Bay of Pigs invasion<1> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linden_Blue

...

Blue and his brother, Neal, who was a year older, graduated from Denver's East High. Both brothers went on to Yale, and decided to look at business opportunities on the economic frontier, which at that time seemed to be in Latin America.

"Central America and South America," Blue said. "At that time, you couldn't drive around Latin America. We hatched this plan to learn to fly so we could go into business somewhere in Latin American after we graduated." - http://www.airportjournals.com/Display.cfm?varID=0510013
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 04:09 AM
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15. Thank you both, Arendt and Ghost Dog.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 05:10 PM
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30. *cough* CIA *cough*
Linden Stanley Blue was born in 1936 in Meeker, CO. He acquired his private pilot's license on Dec. 17, 1955. In 1961, during a flight from Nicaragua, Linden was forced to land in Havana, Cuba and was jailed for 12 days, just prior to the Bay of Pigs invasion<1> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linden_Blue

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Blue and his brother, Neal, who was a year older, graduated from Denver's East High. Both brothers went on to Yale, and decided to look at business opportunities on the economic frontier, which at that time seemed to be in Latin America.

"Central America and South America," Blue said. "At that time, you couldn't drive around Latin America. We hatched this plan to learn to fly so we could go into business somewhere in Latin American after we graduated." - http://www.airportjournals.com/Display.cfm?varID=051001...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:21 PM
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4. Death works for warmongers and money grabbers.
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-10 11:42 PM
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5. The war machine is killing America. nt
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:47 AM
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9. one high paid union job at a time...(nt)
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 04:52 AM
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17. Anyone who works for a defense contractor is earning blood money
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 04:56 AM by NuclearDem
I'd rather be unemployed than work for one of those war profiteers.
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:08 AM
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20. Awesome!
Thank you Endless Wars!

:sarcasm:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:00 AM
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22. No one richie rich warmonger pocket load at a time.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 12:10 AM
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6. Yes it is so much better if people remain unemployed... n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:54 AM
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10. yeah, good jobs making weapons.
people would be "employed" if the ptb hired half of them to hang the other half, too.

that would eventually be a full employment program.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 10:54 AM
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23. $80 hr to write G code
right out of college was awesome. aerospace also pays well and is union. beats the shit out of being broke eating tunafish.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 05:07 PM
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29. Oh, the fantasy of the PTB, Illuminati, House of Rothschild, Bilderberg group...
I think people should have good employment at jobs that provide good benefits. Let's leave those old slurs where they belong...in fantasy stories.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 04:38 AM
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16. That... may well be the most evil response I've ever seen
It's good that companies that create weapons are expanding, because it employs people. Really?

Fuck me RAW.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 05:02 PM
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28. Perhaps then you should look up the definition of evil in a dictionary..
Since this may well be they most abysmally ignorant response I've ever seen. Clearly, you seem to feel it is better for people to starve than to be employed. That idea is morally reprehensible.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 06:16 PM
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31. yes, I would rather see people unemployed than employed killing others...
...for fun and profit in the Pentagon and MIC. "Having a job" is not so sacrosanct a pursuit that it frees one from any moral responsibilities for the consequences of that work.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 06:30 PM
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33. Look up up Maslow's Hierarchy of needs.
I support good jobs with good pay and good benefits. That leads to people making more ethical decisions. Advocating that people should prefer that their families starve then take a good job is as ethically and morally challenged as working for General Atomics or any other company.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:46 AM
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8. good union work foilers at GA. apply online..(nt)
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 04:53 AM
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18. And because they're union, that makes up for the fact that you're working for evil
Edited on Thu Dec-16-10 05:00 AM by NuclearDem
It's the bastards that think like that that are profiting off of my friends coming home in flag-draped coffins and with missing limbs.

I could tell you what I think of you for that, but I'd probably be banned (or at least told to edit my post).

I don't care whether you've served or not, you work for one of these companies, you're complicit in the deaths of every servicemember in Iraq or Afghanistan. End of story.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 09:57 AM
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21. BS, So everyone who works for GE is killing servicemembers?
and I was responsible for deaths for working on a naval propulsion contract years ago? silly.

You are aware that lots of companies sell to the military. the only one i saw directly cause injury or death was Caterpillar. A D6 "shifted" (my take is someone fucked up but that was not the finding) off a trailer and killed one man and injured another severely.

Lots of companies supply the MIC, boycott them all..
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 01:09 PM
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25. That's a fallacy and you know it
General Atomics works purely as a defense contractor; they don't do ANYTHING else but that. Ergo, all of their profits come from war.

And yes, if you work for a company where a significant part of its profits come from war, you are part of the problem.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 06:21 PM
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32. GE makes the reactors used in SSBN's,
Boeing, Lockheed Martin (trident d5), Raytheon, and many other companies that make technology you use make weapon systems.

I worked on systems designed to make ballistic missile subs very very quiet. It paid very very well.. Put my wife through med school (saving lives with that money). I sleep well with that.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:55 AM
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11. is there a connection between gen atomics & the public works dept?
was this brought up during the meeting you went to?

i don;t quite get it.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:28 AM
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12. It's fairly common knowledge
Part of the job of public works is to plan utilities for businesses, so yes, if an employer is expanding hugely, public works employees will know that, so they can design the roads, sewers, water mains, etc. that will be needed. And if you're not a public works employee, you can often learn the same stuff by just following city and county councils and planning bureaus.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:42 AM
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14. "plan check review" = not common terminology to me.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 08:04 AM
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19. We review...


.,,the plans to see how it impacts public works prior to construction. Streets, water, sewer, drainage, etc... This avoids problems and conflicts down the road.
This is true for any development within the city.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:41 PM
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26. thanks.
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 03:36 AM
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13. "General Atomics" HAS to be the BEST...
...MIC/fascist corporate name, EVER!

BIG YAY for the huge taxpayer looted $$$ for the benefit of the Vampires!!!

<insert sarcasm drippping blood thing here>
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 11:01 AM
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24. Corporate money pours in and our elected officials feed of the tit.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-10 02:48 PM
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27. Gosh. Will Obama get another "Peace" prize for this?
Or, just the usual "good doggie" bone from the MIC?
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