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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 08:05 PM
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Libya-- Obama's success despite Bush, Cheney and The GOP.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 08:37 PM by Ian David
U.S. to renew diplomatic relations with Libya
Having renounced nuclear weapons, nation to be dropped from terror list
NBC News and news services
updated 5/15/2006 12:01:00 PM ET
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12799651/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/us-renew-diplomatic-relations-libya/#.TlGqQF2QmuI


Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
US public opinion split as Republicans claim Obama's use of military force in Libya is 'an affront to our constitution'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/22/libyan-conflict-unconstitutional-obama-warned

As a result, President Bush signed Executive Order 13477 restoring the Libyan government's immunity from terror-related lawsuits and dismissing all of the pending compensation cases in the US, the White House said.<109> US State Department spokesman, Sean McCormack, called the move a "laudable milestone ... clearing the way for a continued and expanding US-Libyan partnership."<110>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103#cite_note-109


Doing Business With The Enemy
February 11, 2009 8:16 PM
(CBS) Did it ever occur to you that when President Bush says, "Money is the lifeblood of terrorist operations," he's talking about your money -- and every other American's money?

Just about everyone with a 401(k) pension plan or mutual fund has money invested in companies that are doing business in so-called rogue states.

<snip>

In fact, U.S. law does ban virtually all commerce with the rogue nations, but there's a loophole that G.E., Conoco-Phillips and Halliburton have exploited: The law does not apply to any foreign or offshore subsidiary so long as it is run by non-Americans.

"These three companies, as far as we were concerned, appear to have violated the spirit of the law," says Thompson. "In the case of Halliburton, as an example, they have an offshore subsidiary in the Cayman Islands. That subsidiary is doing business with Iran."

More:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/22/60minutes/main595214.shtml


Halliburton Says Libya Sanctions Will Hit Earnings
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=13242160



"We hope Iraq will be the first domino and that Libya and Iran will follow. We don't like being kept out of markets because it gives our competitors an unfair advantage," John Gibson, chief executive of Halliburton's Energy Service Group, told International Oil Daily in an interview in May of 2003.1

Some of the most significant sanctions against doing business with Libya were put in place by President Reagan in 1986, in response to the country's use and support of terrorism against the United States and other countries. The sanctions banned most sales of goods, technology and services to Libya. They provided for criminal penalties of up to 10 years in prison and $500,000 in corporate and $250,000 in individual fines.2

Despite these sanctions, Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root had worked in Libya ever since the 1980s. The company helped construct a system of underground pipes and wells that purportedly are intended to carry water. But according to Congressman Waxman, "some experts believe that the pipes have a military purpose. The pipes are large enough to accommodate military vehicles and appear to be more elaborate than is needed for holding water. The company began working on the project in 1984 and transferred the work to its British office after the 1986 sanctions were enacted in the United States.3

In 1995, Halliburton was fined $3.8 million for re-exporting U.S. goods through a foreign subsidiary to Libya in violation of U.S. sanctions.4 The company reportedly peddled oil drilling tools (pulse neutron generators) that critics say can be used to trigger nuclear bombs.5 So, while the Bush administration triumphs over Libya's recent surrender of weapons of mass destruction programs to U.S. authorities, it was Halliburton which contributed to their creation in the first place.

More:
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/libya.html





Libya's Qaddafi Gave Condi Rice $212,000 In Gifts, Including A Diamond Ring
The Huffington Post | Cara Parks First Posted: 06-24-09 08:16 PM | Updated: 07-25-09 05:12 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/libyas-qadaffi-gave-condi_n_220496.html

Rice in talks with Libya's Gaddafi
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has met Libya's Muammar Gaddafi on a visit to the north African country US officials are hailing as "historic".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7599199.stm


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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 06:59 AM
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1. K & R
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:35 AM
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2. What success? He is just going over the list handed to him

While Clark doesn't name the other four countries, he has mentioned in televised interviews that the hit list included Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joe_conason/2007/10/12/wesley_clark
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lindysalsagal Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:55 AM
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3. Obama's hurting them where it counts: not polls or ideology: The wallet.
This is why there is no limit to the Obama hating. He's taking away their illegal organized crime by giving control of Libya to the residents of Libya.

The GOP is going to throw anything it can at Obama, including trashing our country. Obama talks publicly about putting country before party. I wish he could or would explain all of this outright. The GOP is a syndicate.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 11:14 AM
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4. Video- Senators Lieberman, McCain, Graham Meet With Gadaffi To Discuss Terrorist Release, More
Video- Senators Lieberman, McCain, Graham Meet With Gadaffi To Discuss Terrorist Release, More

Just thought this would be worth revisiting, especially in light of McCain and Lindsey’s press release.

AP Friday, August 14, 2009 9:46 PM A delegation of US senators led by former Republican Presidential candidate John McCain met with Libyan leaders on Friday in Tripoli to discuss the possible delivery of non-lethal defence equipment.

Libyan TV showed the American delegation, which also included Senators Joseph Lieberman, Susan Collins and Lindsey Graham, meeting Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi as well as his son, and national security adviser, Mutassim.

The visit and Washington’s offer of military equipment was another sign of the improving ties between the former longtime adversaries

More:
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/08/22/senators-lieberman-mccain-graham-meet-with-gadaffi-to-discuss-terrorist-release-more/

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 12:12 PM
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5. K&R
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 12:02 PM
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6. Leaked Cable: McCain Promised Qaddafi To Help Secure Military Equipment From U.S.
Leaked Cable: McCain Promised Qaddafi To Help Secure Military Equipment From U.S.

For all the braying by the Senate’s top three hawks about how the U.S. wasn’t doing enough to oust Libyan dictator Col. Muammar Qaddafi from power, one might be surprised to learn that exactly two years ago, Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) were in Tripoli meeting with the erratic leader and giving him assurances that relations between the nations were on the mend.

According to a leaked August 2009 U.S. diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks recounting the Senators’ junket, the neoconservative Connecticut Senator captured the dynamic of aligning with a brutal dictator:

Lieberman called Libya an important ally in the war on terrorism, noting that common enemies sometimes make better friends.

Qaddafi’s history as a top enemy of the U.S. stretched back decades, but his change of heart came quickly after the U.S. invaded Iraq under the pretense of Saddam Hussein’s development of weapons of mass destruction. Hawks seized on Libya’s détente with the West as a sign that Bush’s tough actions in Iraq were having a ripple effect, though patently not, as Iraq War boosters had predicted, with regard to democratic reforms. “We never would have guessed ten years ago that we would be sitting in Tripoli, being welcomed by a son of Muammar al-Qaddafi,” said Lieberman, according to the leaked cable.



More:
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/24/302759/mccain-lieberman-graham-qaddafi/
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 12:08 PM
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7. It was a war of choice
The ony thing Obama succeeded in doing was setting a precedent for future imperial presidencies.

Obama voted against Iraq but went to Libya with just contorted legalese.

success?
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 12:19 PM
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8. Not sure what your point is about the pictures.
Most world leaders have had dealings with Gaddafi in recent years. Including Obama. http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action;jsessionid=3061D9CA75CAFC1DDAD7A426216878D3?newsId=180612 Obama had to be talked into the war by France and the UK. I wish he had ignored them.
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