Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

One Last Time !!! - If You Want To Know Why You Can't Find A Job, Why Your Retirement Is At Risk...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:14 PM
Original message
One Last Time !!! - If You Want To Know Why You Can't Find A Job, Why Your Retirement Is At Risk...
why you REALLY lost your home, why this country is ultimately corrupt...

Under a deal the SEC worked out with the National Archives and Records Administration, all of the agency's records – "including case files relating to preliminary investigations" – are supposed to be maintained for at least 25 years. But the SEC, using history-altering practices that for once actually deserve the overused and usually hysterical term "Orwellian," devised an elaborate and possibly illegal system under which staffers were directed to dispose of the documents from any preliminary inquiry that did not receive approval from senior staff to become a full-blown, formal investigation. Amazingly, the wholesale destruction of the cases – known as MUIs, or "Matters Under Inquiry" – was not something done on the sly, in secret. The enforcement division of the SEC even spelled out the procedure in writing, on the commission's internal website. "After you have closed a MUI that has not become an investigation," the site advised staffers, "you should dispose of any documents obtained in connection with the MUI."

Many of the destroyed files involved companies and individuals who would later play prominent roles in the economic meltdown of 2008. Two MUIs involving con artist Bernie Madoff vanished. So did a 2002 inquiry into financial fraud at Lehman Brothers, as well as a 2005 case of insider trading at the same soon-to-be-bankrupt bank. A 2009 preliminary investigation of insider trading by Goldman Sachs was deleted, along with records for at least three cases involving the infamous hedge fund SAC Capital.

The widespread destruction of records was brought to the attention of Congress in July, when an SEC attorney named Darcy Flynn decided to blow the whistle. According to Flynn, who was responsible for helping to manage the commission's records, the SEC has been destroying records of preliminary investigations since at least 1993. After he alerted NARA to the problem, Flynn reports, senior staff at the SEC scrambled to hide the commission's improprieties.

<And...>

The SEC's inspector general is investigating the destroyed MUIs and plans to issue a report. NARA is also seeking answers. "We've asked the SEC to look into the matter and we're awaiting their response," says Laurence Brewer, a records officer for NARA. For its part, the SEC is trying to explain away the illegality of its actions through a semantic trick. John Nester, the agency's spokesman, acknowledges that "documents related to MUIs" have been destroyed. "I don't have any reason to believe that it hasn't always been the policy," he says. But Nester suggests that such documents do not "meet the federal definition of a record," and therefore don't have to be preserved under federal law.


Much More: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817?print=true

And the latest: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1774558

:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:16 PM
Response to Original message
1. All I can say is how do we fight THAT? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Easy - the President can issue an Executive Order to retain records.
The problem - he won't do it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. Well, c'mon-- you know that would fill the market with "uncertainty".
That word means little more than "Wall Street doesn't want that", but somehow it's become a universally accepted ward for our political establishment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. But as a result of keeping the cheaters in the game, the market is collapsing.
Forcing people to follow the rules has a purpose beyond morality.
It keeps the game going. If you allow the rules to be broken the game breaks down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. Another problem - the records that we need the most are already
Shredded.

Mission Accomplished for the Wall Street President.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #3
13. Ah, but then he can't blame the Repuke House for everything, and he might solve problems.
And he wouldn't need so much bipartisanship.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
38. Now is not the time to point fingers. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
39. You mean, look, gulp, look BACKWARDS??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
2. knr - also Olbermann covering this now. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:36 PM
Response to Original message
4. What does this have to do with not being..
...able to find a job?

I'm not disputing your assertion, just curious about the connection.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Criminals are gutting the nation's wealth and getting away with it.
It's hard for actual (and REAL) small businesses to get loans, for one. The standards are sky-high. That's part of it.

It'as a free-for-all at the top and there is no interest in creating jobs or protecting your home for you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 03:09 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. And the small matter of the nine trillions of dollars that was lent to the
Biggest Financial Firms all being repaid with securities and derivatives of dubious value.

The Federal Reserve gave away all that money, and in return was given pieces of paper of dubious value. Probably not worth much more than last years' telephone books.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Bingo! It's a nice gig if you can get away with it, gotta admit!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #6
12. Ding ding we have a winner
:fistbump:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #4
31. Here's the Connection to Jobs -- Simply Explained
With lax oversight, Wall Street banks were able to amass trillions of dollars in debt because of the housing speculation. Since the housing bubble burst, they cannot re-pay their counter-party risks. So, the Federal Reserve along with the government is inflating our currency in order to inflate their way out of their debts. Imagine printing money from your computer printer and using that to pay your bills.

Inflation is tricky. Too much of it, and you incur hyperinflation. In the 1970s, the government used hyperinflation to pay off the debts from the Vietnam war. Back then, a large percentage of the U.S. labor force were unionized, and in their collectively bargained union contracts, they received automatic cost of living raises. This created hyper-inflation and stagnation. In order to tame inflation, Volker hiked interest rates to 21% which sent the economy into a deep recession.

The government learned that they had to disenfranchise labor in order to inflate the currency at their whim. Starting in the 1980s, there was PATCO, outsourcing mfg. jobs overseas, and now outsourcing IT jobs overseas. All of this was done so as to take labor completely out of the inflation picture, which is why real wages are stagnant.

In sum, regulators didn't regulate. Wall Street banks took on massive debts which they cannot re-pay, and there are serious counter-party risks. The only way to repay that debt is through inflating the currency, but too much inflation leads to hyper-inflation. In order to prevent hyper-inflation, you need deflation of labor prices. Hence, you need high unemployment.

Questions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
5. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:32 AM
Response to Original message
14. Nester is a highly paid bureaucrat and has used these
nuances before to save his own ass. The SEC as a whole needs a house cleaning.:nuke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
15. Heads should be rolling at SEC.
Probably at Treasury and Justice too.

Think it will happen?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. I agree.
Both on whether is SHOULD happen, and whether it WILL happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. NOT under The United States of Plutocracy, it won't!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
16. Under these kinds of circumstances
wholesale lawlessness by the general population should be perfectly acceptable. Now that we know that those 'in charge' favor a wild West U.S.A. Robin hood acts should encouraged.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. You know, in light of these developments
And your comment, "...wholesale lawlessness by the general population should be perfectly acceptable," I wonder what's to stop me from finding a bigger, nicer house, throwing the occupants out, and making it my new home?

Would I not be "working hard to succeed? (I would think it would be pretty hard to throw a family out of their home, especially if there were guns on the premises). Would I not be achieving the "American Dream?" ("Home Ownership," if I could manage to keep it).

Would I be "punished" for my "success?"

(Except the local police might have a stronger work ethic and higher professional values than the DOJ...)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. We now live in a nation with an absurd
sense of justice. I do not know how the nation can survive. Whistle blowers are now seen as the enemy. Supreme court justices operate as if conflicts of interests do not exist -for them. How do they even teach law students? It's just crazy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:31 PM
Response to Original message
17. The Great Fleecing is well underway.
The fix is in. Todays economy will not improve. Todays economy is entirely intentional. The penultimately wealthy ordered up this economy as if from a menu, and are now digging in, knife and fork, feasting on the dwindling resources of the bottom 99%. It will not end until there is nothing left to devour.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jbeing Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #17
34. Agreed on the Greed
Trashcans- $2,000
Sweet 16 birthday parties - $250 K - $2 MM
Untaxed Corporate Jets - $XXX millions
Most people living paycheck to paycheck (if they get one) - Priceless
For the rich, there's cash.
For the rest of us, they're the MasterClass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:39 PM
Response to Original message
20. Our country floats in a cesspool of corruption.
We are so fucked if this is what our 'leaders' are doing to protect Big Biz from justice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jbeing Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #20
35. Yes, unfortunately
And the cesspool has overflown, and will soon drown the entire country. We will all stink alike, whether we dumped or were dumped upon. There are a few warning voices shouting through oncoming shit, but they can't get past the RW shinola. This is what happens when we think the Republicans can be toilet-trained. They have become so impacted that all they can do spout BS from both ends.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #35
45. And the few warning voices must always look over their shoulders,
for if and when they speak the truth they may very well be subjected to incarceration for some trumped up wrongdoing or quietly commit (assisted) suicide. We're led to believe that we live in a democracy with free speech. What we're fed is a line of propaganda; lies repeated over and over until they become truths.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:43 PM
Response to Original message
22. The SEC is Too Big To Be Punished.
Come on, move along now, nothing to see here.... Go home and watch HappyNews on your 57" Plasma screen...

We're fucked. totally and thoroughly fucked.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:44 PM
Response to Original message
23. kick for those that haven't seen it
eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:48 PM
Response to Original message
24. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, WillyT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #24
40. Anytime Uncle Joe, Anytime...
:hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
26. But Martha Stuart
Sat out her time. I feel so much more secure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:18 PM
Response to Original message
27. I already knew why, WillyT, but thanks for the reminder--lest I forget. REC. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:32 PM
Response to Original message
28. The Biggest CoverUp of ALL = The Bailout.
Had these corrupt banks been allowed to FAIL according to "Free market" dictates,
the investors and creditors would have tracked every last dollar,
and those responsible would have faced the courts.
Guaranteed.
The "Bailout" allowed the criminals to escape with their loot!

Paulson with Co-Conspirators

Now THIS is Bi-Partisanship!
Better get used to it!
Hahahahahahahahaha!




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:33 PM
Response to Original message
29. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
30. Institutional Integrity Ended When The SCOTUS Granted GWB the Election in 2000
Ever since then, institutions that were supposed to protect the public's interest have lost all integrity, and now they service the needs and wants of the people who run them instead of the public.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. This policy of wholesale destruction of SEC records started in 1993.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 04:32 PM by leveymg
It's not like they're welfare case files. Oh, that's right, Clinton pretty much got rid of those, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:35 PM
Response to Original message
32. Government is now so corrupted that criminals have control of the records ...
Well -- guess that happened long ago, actually -- reflecting upon the

LBJ seizure of the JFK coup records which he had held for 75 years --

while presumably they were destroyed and removed from archives!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU GrovelBot  Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:35 PM
Response to Original message
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##



This week is our third quarter 2011 fund drive. Democratic Underground is
a completely independent website. We depend on donations from our members
to cover our costs. Please take a moment to donate! Thank you!

Click here to donate

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
36. Corporations are people, and we don't want to hurt their feelings by releasing info that might
embarrass them later on in life.

Poor, helpless global banks and MNCs. What a tough life it must be to be you. Tsk. Tsk.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 06:44 PM
Response to Original message
41. Kick
I'm kicking all the posts that are smarter than mine and below mine on the first page of GD.

I'll be replying in that thread by PM from now on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
42. Ring Ring! Hello? DOJ?
Ring Ring! Hello?
Ring Ring! Hello?
Ring Ring! Helloooooooooooo?

Ring Ring! Hello?


=======================================
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ldconfig Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. The 'just us' dept is too busy
With going after blind people for downloading movies and baseball players to bother with real crime.

Obama replaced 6 out of the top 10 'just us' dept lawyers with RIAA/MPAA THUGS! Thats why Hollywood lines up to kiss his ass @ 15k a plate. Obama's base is the content cartels and Wall Street NOT the American people.


The spelling and grammar police can kiss my ass :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. Downloading movies and baseball players?!
Where I can download a baseball player??

:silly:

Just funnin'.

Yeah, I don't know why politicians think the best people to regulate an industry are those in that industry. I mean, to a certain extent it makes sense, because those are precisely the people who "know" that industry. But still, some common sense would be nice, too.

==========================
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 12:55 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC