Obama and the center

[rdking647]

so Obama seems to be pissing off the far left. Thats actually a very good political move..

the far left is a small fringe of the american people. like it or not thats the truth. there are many times as many centrists as far lefties in the country. so by pissing off the far left he has a much better chance of winning since he can that work on attracting the middle. a far left stance will only push the center toward the GOP. a centrist stance will give him a chance to capture some of that vote at little or no cost


sometime the truth hurts but must be told.

[Autumn]

1. Sorry to disagree, It's not only the "fringe"

that is getting pissed off. Not in the real world. In the real world I know quite a few life long Democrats who are disgusted with him.

[DURHAM D]

2. piffle

[LaurenG]

3. Bwahahahaa

If we ever get back to what you are calling far left we'd be 1950's -1970's republicans.
Some posts are so full of fail! :rofl:

[rdking647]

4. you can call it fail

i (and the majority of americans) call it reality


But the fringe never thinks they are the fringe.

[LaurenG]

7. So left leaning democrats are the fringe now?

That is absurd, maybe stop with trying to separate everyone out with the purity tests that you are devising. We are all democrats and we are voting for the democrat. Just because you are living in fear doesn't mean you have a right to smear those who disagree with you with snarky posts. The insults around here go way beyond the pale and and I would suggest you look n the mirror to see that at the very least posts like this are part of the problem.

[rdking647]

20. which explains all the "im not supporting Obama" posts here

[LaurenG]

22. Did you take those comments personally?

And do you think that DU would abide people who openly state they are voting for or advocate voting for scumbags? Obviously the admins here know why people are saying what they are saying and so far they haven't started TSing people for being angry at Obama. Maybe you should take your cue from them and stop insulting 2/3rds of the members here.

[polmaven]

34. Have you not seen the numerous posts

indicating that anyone who is not far enough to the left is "Republicrat" or is just simply not a "real" Democrat at all? Or the ones expressly stating they will not vote for President Obama because he, himself, is not a Democrat? I agree with you that we need to recognize that the Democratic Party is, or used to be, a large tent party, and there ought to be room for everyone.

[alsame]

5. The far left was formerly

known as the Democratic Party, before there were DLC/Third Way/New Democrat poseurs.

[rdking647]

6. times change

in the 60's the democrats where the party of racism and anti civil rights.....

[alsame]

8. Lol. You've got those right wing talking points memorized, huh? nt

[rdking647]

10. i love how if your not on the fringe

the fringe accuses you of being a right winger.


the far left fringe is no better than the far right fringe...

[alsame]

14. Trashing Dems and the 60s is a dead give away. So is using

'your' instead of 'you're'.

[rdking647]

17. grammer police checking in :(

[polmaven]

35. But it is OK

for you to trash any Democrat you do not consider to be far enough to the left? :shrug:

[alsame]

38. "Trashing Dems" is calling them racists and anti-civil rights, as the

above poster did. That didn't bother you? :shrug:

[Bandit]

13. Right....and when the Civil Rights Act was passed it was done by Republicans..

:shrug: Guess I shouldn't bother, some just have no grasp of history..

[rdking647]

18. the civil right act passed in 1964

in the final vote 40% of the house dems voted against it... only 20% of the GOP did

when the bill moved to the senate 19 senators launched a fillibuster to stop it. 18 dems and 1 GOP

[polmaven]

36. LOL!

:rofl:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Yeah, pissing off the "far left" worked really well for LBJ, Humphrey, and Gore.

[rdking647]

11. Gore won. we all know that

as for humphrey and LBJ that was 40 years ago.............

[Bandit]

12. What exactly would you consider "the middle"?

What does "The Middle" stand for? I am beginning to believe there is extreme right and hard right in this country. Which one of those is the middle?

[JVS]

25. Why are people so easily convinced that an assortment of political opinions are isomorphic to a line

If I started talking about an ice-cream flavor spectrum people would think that I was fucking crazy.

[LaurenG]

26. I wouldn't I would love to talk flavor spectrum

;)

[JVS]

27. So on the left end of the spectrum is mint chocolate chip, which is awesome, and on the other end...

is chocolate ice cream, which is crap. Between them are all the other flavors like vanilla, rocky road, the various sherbets, and turtle pecan.

[LaurenG]

28. yummmm

you said rocky road and turtle pecan. What else could there be to talk about... :rofl:

[JVS]

29. Well some people like to split the ticket with turtle pecan and a scoop of peach ice cream.

That's especially popular in Georgia.

[LaurenG]

30. I can see how that might be popular there

I wonder about the wisdom of jalapeno flavor with chocolate in the southwest. Sort of a mole ice cream.

[JVS]

31. I think I'll go to the ice cream aisle tonight

[LaurenG]

32. Me too, see what you did.

[polmaven]

37. Well, now wait...

nothing about turtles is in the middle...not as long as Yertle is in any position of authority!

[LWolf]

15. Labor, educators, seniors, the poor, the middle class....

that's some "fringe." :eyes:

[rdking647]

19. the middle class isnt far left

its centrist. so are seniors.



The FACT remains that teh majority of people in this country are not anywhere near the far left... no matter what you may believe.

[LWolf]

21. The FACT remains that, far left or not,

Obama has not been friendly to the middle class, or to seniors. Or to anyone else I listed.

Perhaps why the term "fringe" caused me to roll my eyes. He's way beyond pissing off any "fringe."

[Waiting For Everyman]

16. What if the ideas/solutions we need right now are "far left"?

Could that be a problem at all? This isn't an "in group" "outgroup" thing, it's a little bigger than that.

[TheKentuckian]

23. Until "centrists" figure out what the label means I'd say it is a stretch to claim

that is what most people are.

Now, I have a definition which is corporate and socially all over the map depending on what type of corporate they are but generally don't much care but those who self identify may have another definition that might more accurately describe them.

[JVS]

24. So why is he polling so shittily after all the hippie punching?

[DU GrovelBot]

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[Edweird]

39. I'll check back with you about this November 2012.