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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:55 AM
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Here's the Perry talking points on the economy- help me with rebuttal
http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/08/perry-criticizes-washington-sa.html

Gov. Rick Perry can't cheer about the nation's economic jitters, but they sure offer him chances to tout Texas as another, "bottom up" source of wisdom on the economy. Appearing Wednesday before state legislators gathered in San Antonio , Perry blasted President Barack Obama's stimulus package as a failure. He called it "top down" and denounced those who preach the economic philosophy of John Maynard Keynes , who has influenced presidents from Franklin D. Roosevelt to Obama on the timing of cuts and increases in government spending.

"The fact is, government doesn't create jobs," Perry said in a 20 minute speech to about 1,300 people at the National Conference of State Legislatures.

"Simply put, our country's in trouble," the Republican governor said. "Our fiscal house is built on shifting sands. The federal government has tried to spend our way out of this economic spiral, which has only deepened the crisis and deepened our debt. Until Washington figures out that the only true stimulus is more money in the hands of employers across all economic sectors as well as a restrained bureaucracy that's no longer reaching into the workplaces, our national nightmare will continue."

Perry, who was interrupted by applause about a half dozen times, gave his first extended remarks about Friday's downgrade of U.S. long-term debt by the rating agency Standard & Poor's . While the stock market this week has plunged, rallied and then lost ground, the governor hedged on whether there will be a double dip recession or a continued weak recovery.

"The economic turmoil in the past few weeks is weighing pretty hard on everyone, but regardless of which way the economic tides may turn ... our philosophy here in Texas is going to put us in a much better position than almost any other state," he said, shifting into a familiar spiel about Texas' record of job creation and state spending cuts.

"Texas practices the fiscal discipline that Washington can't even bring itself to preach. Current events are indicating which approach is the better one," he said, contrasting Texas' lawsuit reform and "regulatory predictability" with what he said is the federal government's overreaching and spendthrift ways.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:57 AM
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1. Where is WH response? The DNC response? Instead these lies
soon become 'facts' because they go unchallenged.

It's disturbing.
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:57 AM
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2. Perry is W's really stupid little brother...
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:05 AM
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5. Thank you!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:58 AM
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3. Nonsense
Employers are already awash in cash. More cash in their hands does little. Taxes were cut and money was spent to spur aggregate demand, which is why things aren't much worse.

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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 10:59 AM
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4. Texas received $500 million in stimulus funds, ranks almost last in healthcare AND education
And if he's so gun-ho about the Govt NOT being able to create jobs then he's admitting that capitalism has failed or in the very least DEEPLY flawed. Our current economic crisis is the result of 30 years of trickle-down economics.
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sfpcjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:10 AM
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6. Not only does government in fact create jobs, but
it is the employer of last resort. They're always chipping away at the absolute fact of Keynesianism because they know it works and that "supply side" is made up crap that has been discredited for decades.

The jobs government creates have IMMEDIATE economic benefits said to be $1.60 for every dollar invested, but they SPIN OFF dozens of other jobs in the PRIVATE SECTOR which they say that they believe in.
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lonestarlib Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:30 AM
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7. Funny he should be saying government doesn't create jobs.
Months before he was bragging about all the jobs he created here in Texas. I guess people are beginning to discover he didn't create jobs as much as bribe companies to move jobs to Texas from other states. The jobs he did create are mostly min wage.
Perry used stimulus money to balance the state budget.
He calls giving money to businesses "bottom up"?
Notice how he never directly addresses the questions he's asked?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:30 AM
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8. Post this right next to the article that says
corporations are sitting on piles of cash and NOT spending it and NOT hiring. Asshole.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:34 AM
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9. Well, if government doesn't create jobs
then why were the figures for unEMPLOYMENT so full of lost government JOBS? I'm sure Perry and his ilk don't do their own office work, they have aids and administrative assistants for that, aren't they working for the government at jobs? In fact MOST of Texas' growth comes from government jobs...i.e. additional schools and police and fire services for the new communities that have gone up. The stimulus money helped pay for the constrution and brought in more residents to work, which in turn stimulated housing needs, then service needs (police etc.)

The stock market may be plunging, but they are buying Treasury Bonds, so I'd say that is an endorsement for the safty of the U.S. Treasury. Continued weak recovery is due to all the repub policies from Washington and the repub States cutting budgets (jobs).


This is just a simplistic way of saying he's full of shit. Governments pretty much in one way or another create all the jobs.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 11:48 AM
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10. Government doesn't create jobs, prayer meetings create jobs.
I hope we see Perry in the general election. Hopefully, the American people know that praying for jobs is about as useful as praying for rain. How'd that rain dance work out, governor?
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