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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:06 AM
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Great...A Senate Democrat Says Young People Won't Miss Social Security...
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 08:07 AM by jtown1123
This is what we're up against...Democrats who won't defend Social Security for my generation. This is appalling:

Inouye: Reform Social Security and close loopholes-ASSOCIATED PRESS. Inouye, the 86-year-old president pro tempore of the U.S. Senate, said he wants to protect retirement benefits for most existing workers, but people just entering the work force today wouldn't miss Social Security benefits as much. "You don't have to cut away anything that, say, someone who is retiring today or 20 years from now will be receiving," Inouye said from his office in Honolulu. "But someone who is just starting to get into the Social Security cycle, and he won't be receiving any benefits for the next 50 years, he won't know." http://www.canadianbusiness.com/article/38779--inouye-reform-social-security-and-close-loopholes


I really don't know who I can count on to protect Social Security from cuts for my generation...it seems like any Democratic Member or Senator (with few exceptions) can be convinced by anyone (GOP? Blue Dogs?) to cut benefits.
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xoom Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:09 AM
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1. it's a strange world we live in.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:09 AM
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2. To have a plan that makes you less dependent
on a government in which one party has no compunction about breaking its promises is not a bad thing.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:13 AM
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4. "less dependent on government?" Thanks for that GOP talking point n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:14 AM
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7. That was not my intent.
Edited on Tue Aug-09-11 08:17 AM by Turbineguy
It was breaking promises that was the operative part. Maybe you can help me. How else can I describe somebody whose only source of income is Social Security?
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:18 AM
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10. Right, but SS is so popular & there has always been unified opposition from Dems, "breaking promises
was never an option...now? I have nothing to fear but weak and corporatist Democrats. What has our party become when factions break off and say benefit cuts are OK?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:36 AM
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14. I went to school in California
when Reagan was governor. He taught me a lot about trusting Republicans. Unfortunately, it seems some Democrats have joined the dark side, unless it's just political games.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:26 AM
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18. For most people who receive SS,


It isn't their only income, but it helps them get by. Not many people could get by on SS alone. Not anyone who had to pay normal bills.

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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:42 PM
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33. 1/3 of retirees depend on social security for 90% or more of their income.
2/3 depend on it for 50% or more.

Contra your claim, for most retirees SS is their PRIMARY source of income.

You may not run with that crowd, but they are the majority.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:17 AM
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27. and the reason we even have social security
do we trust a global corporate market to protect seniors? Remember the great depression? Oh, I know they will all have 401ks, where wall street can control their money. Instead of a solid payment, they will have to depend on the market and hope they don't get enronized. My FIL's 401k was partly invested in allegheny airlines, that's what the chief financial director invested in. Anyone hear of Allegheny today? He lost over half of his 401k.

A bunch of greedy, sociopathic leeches.

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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:35 PM
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30. Yes, far better for our plan to be dependent on Wall Street
Clearly we can trust them to operate only in good faith.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:12 AM
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3. Au contrare. They WILL know. Because they will see the taxes taken out
And will know you greedy bastards took those taxes to pay for useless wars and tax breaks for the rich. Oh yes, they will know.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:13 AM
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5. Yes. So we're going to be taxed at the same rate and get less benefits...we'll fucking notice n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:31 AM
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13. the most regressive tax of all hits those who will benefit from it the least
if the young Senator has his way.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:13 AM
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6. The democratic party has morphed into something I don't recognize. Many of the
politicians have become "me toos," akin to republicans IMO. Many democrats today are wishy washy and bend with the wind. Not all certainly, but many. And a good many are really republicans in the democratic party IMO.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:17 AM
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8. People don't realize they're poor if they're not told. Catfood is delicious, anyway.
:puke:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:21 AM
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11. What good is he then?
He might as well switch to the GOP and get it over with if he's going to roll over and give up like that.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:27 AM
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12. Exactly. I always thought Inouye was one of the good guys...I was wrong n/t
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:47 AM
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15. but people just entering the work force today wouldn't miss Social Security benefits as much.
And they would miss Inouye even less, if your not with us your against us.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:04 AM
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17. Haha, well said. I'm not a constituent but I'm going to write a letter anyways.
I have some good links to polls to back me up, but millennials want to protect SS.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:02 AM
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16. Sometimes I wish some congresscritter would just say we are moving to Darwinism.
Social Darwinism. So get your guns ready, band together in tribes, trust no one, and fight over the leftovers between yourselves. Get over it. You are on your own if you want to survive.
It seems the direction we are moving in.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:40 AM
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19. AGAIN: This is why we should defend
democracy rather than the Democratic Party.

The assumtion that they're still on our side isn't warranted.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:53 AM
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21. +1
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:52 AM
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20. JUST HOW DUMB ARE YOU

Young people will feel it because they will be left with parents with no income after their working days are over! you say pensions,what pensions? you say ira's.401k's etc. well look at how easy it is to drop the stock market! do you think the little guy or the big guy lost money?
you bet your butt the little guy got burned!
I'm all for replacing the social security net when a guaranteed replacement is secured!
But so far all I see is a bunch of cold blooded business investors trying to get that money you pay weekly into the economy so they can make it disappear into their portfolio's

Wake up america their trying to drain your last drop of blood!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:54 AM
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22. With Democrats like these....
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:20 AM
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28. I hear you n/t
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:55 AM
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23. I used to respect him. He remained too long on the job. IMO. n/t
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:30 AM
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24.  What a stupid thing to say. I suppose they won't notice the deduction on their checks, either?
Take a nap, Inouye.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:46 AM
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25. I don't have ANY use for "The NEW Democrat Centrist Party."
I want my OLD DEMOCRATIC PARTY back.

---bvar22
A Proud Mainstream Center FDR/LBJ Pro-Working Class DEMOCRAT!




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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:08 AM
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26. THIS is why
even when we had the Senate, we never really had a LIBERAL senate.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:30 AM
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29. Ah yes, good old Senator In-Your-Way.
He jumped the shark after Watergate, I'm afraid.

I used to do Hill visits with both Hawai'i senators. Sen. Akaka's people were nice and friendly, like you expect kama'aina (local Hawai'i people; now you know) to be. He even posed for a picture with us! Inouye's staff, on the other hand, were as frosty as if we had shown up at a corporate board meeting wearing cardboard "Will Work for Food" signs. Once they even tried to move their meeting with us to the Senate cafeteria (!) , because his two-story office was supposedly booked! Our sign language interpreter was having none of it; a noisy cafeteria is NOT the place to interpret an important meeting!
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:36 PM
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31. is that bastard collecting SS? nt
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:39 PM
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32. inouye means "asshole" in japanese.
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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 10:58 PM
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34. Just incomprehensible and grossly unfair.
Okay, I get SS- I worked for over 33 years (and spent a number of years in school) but this pisses me off beyond belief! Our priorities are so completely screwed up. I am so sorry. This is so disgusting! I wasn't going to vote because I am so unhappy but I see now that is so wrong to the people coming after me. We are all in this together!
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