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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 04:55 PM
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Ezra Klein
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/mcc...


The most honest man in Washington did some more truth-telling on CNBC last night. Speaking to Larry Kudlow, Mitch McConnell made perfectly clear that the hostage situation we just went through wasnt a one-shot deal. Its the new normal:

What we have done, Larry, also is set a new template. In the future, any president, this one or another one, when they request us to raise the debt ceiling, it will not be clean anymore. This is just the first step. This, we anticipate, will take us into 2013. Whoever the new president is, is probably going to be asking us to raise the debt ceiling again. Then we will go through the process again and see what we can continue to achieve in connection with these debt ceiling requests of presidents to get our financial house in order.

Previously, Ive compared the debt ceiling to a bomb ticking away at the base of the economy. We dont much notice it because its always been there and, despite a couple of close calls, its never gone off. But that doesnt mean it wont ever go off. Particularly if these sorts of showdowns become the norm.

(snip)
Hearing McConnells comments last night, economist Jared Bernstein was shocked. This is not the way of great nations, he wrote. I disagree. The political system that doesnt modernize and eventually finds its vulnerabilities exploited by interest-group pressure, internal divisions and reckless politicians? This is certainly the way of great nations. Its the way they fall.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 04:59 PM
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1. In other words, the full faith and credit of the United States is dead...
as a doornail. Good work Mr. McConnell, good work. You have done your country proud.

I don't think I need to bother with the "sarcasm" icon.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:01 PM
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5. they may as well just downgrade us now
because what other countries want to see/hear us going through this bullshit again - or every year and a half? Fuck!
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 04:59 PM
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2. Well, if - god forbid - there's another Republican president, it will.
But as long as there's a Democratic President...McConnell is correct.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:01 PM
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4. Beat me to it.
How much you wanna bet that the next R president gets a clean vote?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:07 PM
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10. Such a good point and I wish like heck someone would throw that in his sickening face.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:00 PM
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3. does Obama still take them at their word?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:02 PM
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6. The market should be reassured by this ... NOT !
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:05 PM
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7. so it will be a crazy rightwing shitshow
every time this country needs to grow or change
or do anything like maybe pass a bill or something

Thanks a f@$kload McChinless.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:06 PM
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8. Then we need to get rid of McConnell AND the Debt Ceiling.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:07 PM
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9. "WE will hold it hostage at every opportunity as it is a fabulous tool for Republicans
Edited on Tue Aug-02-11 05:07 PM by librechik
to seize the levers of power and keep them away from the elected majority. Over and over again, since we have set that precedent and it worked like a charm.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:09 PM
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11. Maybe it's good that he's announcing this upfront. Let America know
that this bullshit will never stop as long as Repubs have the House. Turtleman must think average voters enjoyed their little spectacle, and want to see more of it.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:09 PM
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12. Ahem, Mitch...
The ceiling is already covered in layers of toxic diarrhea sprayed there by your man George W. Bu$h.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:20 PM
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13. This is why one does NOT negotiate with terrorists.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:27 PM
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14. +1
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:43 PM
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15. The debt ceiling law could very well be unconstitutional.
It needs to be challenged by a President and sorted out in the courts.
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:55 PM
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16. So much for the "businesses need certainty"
argument in order to hire people. They never cared about certainty, or they'd raise the debt ceiling without question.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:57 PM
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17. If this happens to a Republican President you can god damn guarantee the 14th amendment will be
invoked
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