Joe LIEberman Says U.S. Should CUT SOCIAL SECURITY To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islamist Extremists’

[Segami]

:smoke:


" This past April, right-wing war hawk John Bolton suggested during an interview on Fox News that the United States should cut Social Security and Medicare to finance the defense budget.



During debate over the debt deal today on the Senate floor, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) appeared to endorse this call. Lieberman explained that he is working with Coburn on a Social Security spending reduction plan and that “we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense…to protect us…with Islamist extremists”:



LIEBERMAN: I want to indicate today to my colleagues that Senator Coburn and I are working again on a bipartisan proposal to secure Social Security over the long term, we hope to have that done in time. To also forward to the special committee for their consideration. So, bottom line, we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense we need to protect us in a dangerous world while we’re at war with Islamist extremists who attacked us on 9/11 and will be for a long time to come.


watch video:


http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/02/285739/joe-lieberman-says-u-s-should-cut-social-security-to-pay-for-fighting-the-islamist-extremists/



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[no_hypocrisy]

1. No thank you.

[Leopolds Ghost]

80. What we need is a Grand Army of the Republic controlled by Chancellor Lieberman.

"But WHO would have the courage to PROPOSE such a radical piece of legislation?" (looks hopefully to Obama)

[alsame]

2. You just know he's praying for another attack to justify the

cuts. Sick SOB.

[Segami]

6. And to think this slug was a short breath away from becoming Vice President of this country.

[alsame]

16. And it still disgusts me that I voted for him on that ticket. nt

[TwilightGardener]

29. I did too. Every time I blame McNutz for putting Palin near the Presidency, I do have

to think about Al Gore's judgment, too--it's only fair.

[alsame]

36. True. nt

[spanone]

3. joe is getting senile

[Little Star]

4. Lieberman should just shut his ignorant mouth!

[JackintheGreen]

5. Well, if we kill 'em now in neverending wars

they won't need social security later. Makes perfect sense to me. :sarcasm:

[tblue]

7. Why don't YOU suit up and go fight them, Sen. Irrelevant?

Suit up or shut up. Why is this POS still on anyone's radar? Maybe cuz he's not the 60th vote anymore, and he misses the spotlight???

[KansDem]

48. He's ready!

[Segami]

72. Joe Delusional is but another moon-barkin chicken hawk who believe its

other people's duty to suit up and sacrifice, NOT THEM! The Congress and Senate is loaded with such cowards.

[sinkingfeeling]

8. And I say cut the defense budget if necessary to pay for 'entitlements'.

[DJ13]

9. How about we take the billions we send to Israel and put it into SS instead

[Segami]

13. Now there's a NEW, fresh, constructive idea... Lets help our own people for a change.

[smirkymonkey]

71. Best idea I've heard in a long time.

And that idiot Lieberman can enlist and go fight Islamic terrorists overseas to his little heart's content.

[indurancevile]

10. fuck you, joe. with a pointed stick.

[Lugnut]

79. +1000 n/t

[GCP]

86. A spiked dildo

[Bonhomme Richard]

11. Jesus H Christ! How big a DOD do we need to protect us.

I guess it's never to big.

[OHdem10]

12. The NeoCons had better get this guy to the woodshed and fast.

He will reflect badly on the whole bunch of War Hawks.

More proof they are salivating after that SS Trust Fund.

Of course, Joe is one of those always speaking with
disdain for the"old programs" of the New DEAL.

And they want us to just trust them.

[KansDem]

14. F*ck you, Joe

:grr:

[Booster]

15. Remember, under the last administration, the Pentagon lost

(lost, as in haven't a clue where it went) 3 TRILLION DOLLARS. And that had nothing to do with the troops/military. It was lost by the civilian people working at the Pentagon. Guess that worked so well they want to do it again. What galls me is that nobody on either side seemed to give a shit about the lost trillions. Unbelievable.

[Segami]

19. Why isn't Joe looking for that money by calling for a Congressional investigation?

[Booster]

26. It's obviously ok with Joe since he wants to give them more.

[Aerows]

35. 2.16 Billion

in US funds for contractors ended up directly in Taliban hands. Where is Joe on asking why we are giving money away to our enemies?

[Booster]

68. Where is any of them? That's what makes it so hard not to

believe that they are ALL in on the grand scheme. That they ALL must get huge cutbacks from military contractors for keeping their mouths shut. Especially the Republicans since they are supposed to be the know-it-all about money. But I'm also upset at the Dems for not standing on the floor of Congress and screaming at the top of their lungs: I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.

[Leopolds Ghost]

82. How much money did we give Pakistan to pay for attacking the wrong country twice?

After all, a Paki general paid the Saudi 9/11 hijackers. n/t

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[MadHound]

18. We've found our first member of the Super Congress. n/t

[quinnox]

54. LOL

sad but probably true!

[ClarkUSA]

20. What do you expect of a former DLC Chairman? Forget him, he'll be out next year.

[former9thward]

25. He announced he was not going to run again at the beginning of the year.

[ClarkUSA]

32. Good. Saves us the trouble.

I edited my reply to reflect your input. Thanks for the correction. :hi:

[Angry Dragon]

I could live with eliminating all Congressional pensions

to help support the wars that Congress has gotten us into

[Big Blue Marble]

21. Let us all remember that the funding for SS

had nothing to do with the general fund that supports the war. As this battle heats up in the coming years, it
will be fierce. The institutions of war vs the people. What he is saying is steal from the SS trust fund to
fund his friends in the war industry. Are we going to let it come down to a choice between being killed by
terrorists are starving to death in our old age?

[democrat_patriot]

22. Bet he makes the Super Comittee.

'Cause it can get worse.

[Segami]

27. That should be a very BIG RED FLAG to all as to where we're heading with this Super Committee

if he's elected.

[Liberalynn]

87. +1

[atreides1]

23. So Lieberman and Coburn want to gut Social Security

...makes you wonder if he and Coburn will come up with a Hadamar Clinic solution in order to deal with the elderly and the disabled, who won't be able to get any government assistance if he gets his way.

[FLAprogressive]

24. Lieberman is a fascist plain and simple.

[Warpy]

28. I sincerely hope that little worm is sent packing in 2012

Everyone I know in Connecticut who was conned into voting for him in 2006 has had voter's remorse almost from the beginning.

He really is a reprehensible piece of human garbage.

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. I long for the good old days. Used to be there was some shit you just didn't say.

There's no such thing as shame any more.

[WinkyDink]

31. Sick criminal.

[arcane1]

33. If we can't defend ourselves and take care of ourselves, then America is a failed state n/t

[roomfullofmirrors]

38. we can't because we expect others to defend us and to take care of us.

That was never really workable in the long term.

[FiveGoodMen]

40. Which others?

[roomfullofmirrors]

53. Our large standing army and taxpaers.

[FiveGoodMen]

61. Guess we should each get some guns and just start shooting at anyone we don't like

[roomfullofmirrors]

63. well, don't complain about military spending then hero.

[WinkyDink]

66. Uhh....these groups are included in the word "ourselves."

[roomfullofmirrors]

70. I think you meant "duh" not "uh"

[arcane1]

46. Huh?

That makes no sense... who are you talking about?

Besides, the military has not even once in my entire lifetime been used to defend the American people.

[roomfullofmirrors]

52. It makes perfect sense to those of us who paid attention in US history class.

Our democratic forefathers detested the idea of a large standing army.

[arcane1]

55. What does that have to do with "others" defending us?

What do you think the "well-regulated militia" was?

Your original comment still makes zero sense, but nice try :eyes:

[roomfullofmirrors]

56. It was a citizen's militia genius.

If you paid attention in US history class, you would know that that there is a difference between a "large standing army" and a "well regulated militia". Here, pay attention this time:


George Washington, Sentiments on a Peace Establishment
2 May 1783 Writings 26:374--76, 388--91


Altho' a large standing Army in time of Peace hath ever been considered dangerous to the liberties of a Country, yet a few Troops, under certain circumstances, are not only safe, but indispensably necessary. Fortunately for us our relative situation requires but few. The same circumstances which so effectually retarded, and in the end conspired to defeat the attempts of Britain to subdue us, will now powerfully tend to render us secure. Our distance from the European States in a great degree frees us of apprehension, from their numerous regular forces and the Insults and dangers which are to be dreaded from their Ambition.

But, if our danger from those powers was more imminent, yet we are too poor to maintain a standing Army adequate to our defence, and was our Country more populous and rich, still it could not be done without great oppression of the people. Besides, as soon as we are able to raise funds more than adequate to the discharge of the Debts incurred by the Revolution, it may become a Question worthy of consideration, whether the surplus should not be applied in preparations for building and equipping a Navy, without which, in case of War we could neither protect our Commerce, nor yield that Assistance to each other, which, on such an extent of Sea-Coast, our mutual Safety would require.

. . . . .

Were it not totally unnecessary and superfluous to adduce arguments to prove what is conceded on all hands the Policy and expediency of resting the protection of the Country on a respectable and well established Militia, we might not only shew the propriety of the measure from our peculiar local situation, but we might have recourse to the Histories of Greece and Rome in their most virtuous and Patriotic ages to demonstrate the Utility of such Establishments. Then passing by the Mercinary Armies, which have at one time or another subverted the liberties of all-most all the Countries they have been raised to defend, we might see, with admiration, the Freedom and Independence of Switzerland supported for Centuries, in the midst of powerful and jealous neighbours, by means of a hardy and well organized Militia. We might also derive useful lessons of a similar kind from other Nations of Europe, but I believe it will be found, the People of this Continent are too well acquainted with the Merits of the subject to require information or example. I shall therefore proceed to point out some general outlines of their duty, and conclude this head with a few particular observations on the regulations which I conceive ought to be immediately adopted by the States at the instance and recommendation of Congress.

[arcane1]

58. So, who are the "Others" we expect to care for and defend us?

You said: we expect others to defend us and to take care of us.

You still have not answered the question "who?" despite being asked by two people.

And spare me your snarky attitude :eyes:

[roomfullofmirrors]

62. I guess you didn't pay attention in reading class either.

[kenfrequed]

75. So... to the point

What policy are you actually in favor of with regards to the military?

Cutting it, replacing it, inflating it? What is the actual goal that you would like to see attained? Or are you just snarking against military budget cuts?

[TheKentuckian]

78. The military is not for defense but rather to secure resource to be plundered by global corporations

and to act as security for those resources and their wealth.

You're talking a whole different game and one that is probably neither here nor there since nobody is even remotely about to invade us.

[The_Casual_Observer]

34. All the king's horses and all the king's men didn't prevent 9/11

But they did their god damnedest to make us forget that in the aftermath.

[FiveGoodMen]

37. To think of all the times people said, "his voting record is very liberal except on Israel"!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

39. Joe LIEberman can kiss my ass.

[AntiFascist]

41. Both parties prefer Military Socialism...

otherwise known as National Socialism, and we know how that translates in German.

[Dappleganger]

42. This man was almost vice-president of the US.

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[B Calm]

44. I think we should use Joe's senate pension. . .

[dhill926]

45. what a pathetic, small, little man.....

his exit from the Senate can't come soon enough......

[Initech]

47. We're spending TRILLIONS to fight an invisible enemy. If we don't stop this we're gonna implode.

[bvar22]

49. Well, THAT makes Joe Lieberman the PERFECT candidate...

...for one of the Democratic seats on the NEW Super Congress!!!!

Look Out!
Its COMING.



Cherish your memories, SUCKERS!
because we're TAKING everything else!
Hahahahahahaha!

[dtexdem]

50. Just another wannabe thief trying to justify his intended crime.

[patrice]

51. Joe LIEberman is drooling at the chops at the prospect of "having" to "help" Egypt. nt

[NCarolinawoman]

57. Please give that CHICKENHAWK a gun and drop him in the hills of Pakistan!!!

He can fight his own stupid @!&*% wars!!!!

I am so so TIRED of his mouth!!! :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[avaistheone1]

60. Yes and take his lovely wife with him.

Be gone Joe, you asshole.

:argh:

[OhioChick]

59. Send Joe to help fight the extremists n/t

[Unvanguard]

Thank God he's not running for re-election. n/t

[Unvanguard]

64. Thank God he's not running for re-election. n/t

[Dr Fate]

65. Obama, Reid and Pelosi respond and disagree 100% (link included)

They have all 3 siad that unpopular war spending will always be cut before any popular domestic programs are cut.


Hold on-this is just a rough draft- I'll have the link soon.


(Put blue Link here)

[Segami]

67. Unrec.? Joe, is that you?

[fadedrose]

69. Don't know how old he is, but he should publicly turn down acceptance

of SS to set an example.

Or, shut up, Joe...

[RainDog]

76. if America is lucky, he'll croak soon. and won't be soon enough, imo. n/t

[amborin]

73. ghastly

[Desertrose]

74. ARGGHH........

*sigh*

Good grief.

[ThoughtCriminal]

77. Now they're pissing on the 3rd Rail

Used to be dangerous, but now they know the juice is off and nobody who matters is minding the switch.

[Mimosa]

81. That figures. Pretty much what Sen Bushco's been saying since 2000. n/t

[Hatchling]

83. Oh just great.

Kill Grannies here so we have enough money to kill Grannies there. We certainly seem to kill a higher proportion of the civilian population in fighting Islamist extremists.

Is this their solution to over population?

[hifiguy]

84. Is this fascist asshole running for reelection next year?

And is there a bigger scumbag who has ever walked the earth - and called himself a Democrat - at least at one time - than Moldy Joe?

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[dionysus]

88. holy joe, go screw.

[kenny blankenship]

89. A very sick man.

[Iggo]

90. Drop dead, Joe.

[Trekologer]

91. If anyone wants to know why we couldn't get good legislation passed in Obama's first two years

Just take a look at this guy. He should have just caucused with the GOP. Would have made things much easier.