What part of the bill do you hate the most? The part where he didn't cut Medicare or...

[Joe the Revelator]

...the part where he didn't cut social security? Or was it the part where Obama all but assured us that the Bush tax cuts would expire next year?


What part of that do you just despise?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. Link?

[bigwillq]

2. There's a bill?

:shrug:

I can't answer your questions yet.

[leveymg]

3. That comes in November. Don't get ahead of the narrative.

[jillan]

4. There are NO revenue increases while programs across the board are being cut.

[Joe the Revelator]

11. I thought entitlement cuts were the litmus test...not chump change spending cuts...

...and that's what 100bn a year is, chump change.

[indurancevile]

13. 2.2% of the budget is chump change?

i haven't seen the particulars. are they available?

[Joe the Revelator]

20. Yes...if I have a dollar and drop two cents....that's chump change.

[indurancevile]

24. except it's not two cents. it's the equivalent of the dept of vets affairs & the state dept.

or the depts of ag, energy, justice, & commerce.

or housing/urban dev + education.

every year.

[jillan]

17. What part of shared sacrifice don't you understand?

[Big Blue Marble]

25. You do understand he wants entitlements on the the table.

They are scheduled for 'reform' later this year.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1626446">Read Obama's own words here.

[Autumn]

5. I liked the part where he assured us

that the Bush tax cuts would expire last year.

[earthside]

6. Zing!!! n/t

[CakeGrrl]

15. Yeah, too bad he wasn't willing to play chicken with UI benefits.

That would've been COOL!

[tkmorris]

28. You think there won't be some issue to bargain with next winter?

There will ya know. There will be something the Dems want and the price for getting it will be... extending the tax cuts. Actually they are likely to demand they be made permanent this time.

[Autumn]

30. Cool?? Yeah wait until they play the same cards

when Obamas tax breaks for the rich are set to expire next time.:rofl: It will be swallowed hook, line and sinker.

[Bandit]

35. Instead he plays chicken with the entire US economy

that is really cool.....Next he can decrease Corporate taxes to 23% while saying he will close loop holes and we know Corporations could NEVER figure out new Loop Holes....Penny wise Pound foolish....Yep he gave the unemployed six more weeks of benefits...While giving the very wealthy trillions.....

[tblue]

Why should we believe him?

He already before assured us about the Bush tax cuts. And look what happened.

[OHdem10]

7. Come on, Even Paul Ryan Plan does not kill Medicare right

away.

I will take a wait and see. Just as we are waiting Gitmo
ending the wars and other broken promises.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. So, with your logic, nothing he did would have made you happy...

Glad you're a reasonable person.

[OHdem10]

26. I am a reasonable realist. Since I had figured this was the

way it would go, I am not that disappointed with
anything anymore. Expect nothing.

[WillyT]

8. The Part Where He Winced, And Said, "May I Have Another?"

From the movie, 'Animal House'.



:shrug:

[RegieRocker]

9. This part

Despite what some in my own party have argued I believe that we need to make some modest adjustments to programs like medicare to make sure they are still around for future generation. Is that succinct enough?

[Better Believe It]

18. What kinds of "adjustments" in Medicare do you advocate? Cuts in spending perhaps?

Just what the elderly need.

Thanks for your support.

[RegieRocker]

29. Exactly. That's the part I hate most.

[MadHound]

12. The part where there's one trillion dollars in front loaded spending cuts,

Which will push this fragile economy right off the cliff. Any more stupid, smarmy questions?

[Better Believe It]

14. The part that imposes automatic cuts in social programs that benefit working people and the elderly

If Congress doesn't vote for the cuts Obama, Republicans and some Democrats want this fall.

[femmocrat]

31. +1

It's going to be more wrangling, posturing, hypocrisy, and "compromise"--- none of which will benefit any of us.

[Whisp]

16. why Obama has been cutting ss and medicare since he was in highschool....

(his Elitist High School I might add)

but the caver that he is, he just can't get'er done right. But some keep wishing one day he might so they can justify the stinkdom of lazy and wishful thought

[Unvanguard]

19. Not one of those things is true.

First, the congressional committee has the authority to recommend cuts to Medicare and Social Security, and if recommended, they will almost certainly pass.

Second, Obama didn't assure us that the Bush tax cuts would expire: he said that if the final plan didn't include meaningful tax reform (which won't entail directly raising taxes on the rich because of how the CBO will score "debt reduction"), he would consider vetoing an extension of the Bush tax cuts for high-income individuals. So what happens if the Republicans do the same thing they did last time, and hold middle-class tax cuts hostage for the sake of tax cuts for the rich?

[Joe the Revelator]

21. Your world is one of hypothetical worry

I'm living in a fact based world based on the framework of this agreement.

[Unvanguard]

23. What are you talking about?

Where do you in your fact-based world think the $1.5 trillion is going to come from?

[Big Blue Marble]

27. Let's talk about those facts after the

congressional commission has go at it. Them we will see where the ax falls.

[neverforget]

22. The part where the Super Congress gets EVERYTHING on the table

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43949638/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

In the second stage, a newly created joint committee of Congress would be charged with recommending $1.5 trillion in deficit reductions by the end of November that would be put to a vote in Congress by year's end. The cuts could come from benefit programs such as Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid as well as from an overhaul of the tax code.

[jtown1123]

34. Yep. Not sure why very few people get this... n/t

[frazzled]

32. The part where Defense spending gets huge slashes

Nowhere in my wildest imagination would I think a compromise would get Defense cuts on a 50-50 par with discretionary spending. That is huge, and no one is talking about it much. It's the poison pill in this bill, when it comes to the debt commission thingy.

[jtown1123]

33. I despise the Super Congress and ZERO revenue n/t

[jtown1123]

36. I also hate the part where this will likely send us further into an economic recession n/t