Vote Going On Now In The Senate To Move The Reid Bill Along....

[global1]

I counted more than 41 nays. This needs 60 to pass. I don't think it will make it.

[Imajika]

1. This has little significance anymore to the larger debate...

This is the Reid bill being filibustered by the Republicans.

We've long moved past this point since there is a new deal in the works. This is the Democrats making a political statement.

[Better Believe It]

2. Since when does legislation need 60 votes to pass the Senate as you indicated.

I think perhaps you confused this with 60 votes needed to end a fake Republican procedural "filibuster".

Of course, Senator Reid has the power to immediately end such phantom Republican filibusters by simply withdrawing his "two-track" Senate debate procedural rule and/or forcing a real Senate filibuster on the Senate floor.

That's what Republican Senators will surely do to end Democratic procedural "filibusters" if they regain formal control of the Senate in 2012.

[gateley]

3. I think this is the "first" Reid bill and they are anticipating it not passing

(in fact Chuck Todd said that Reid himself will vote nay if it's needed) so then they can immediately vote on the New! Improved! deal.

I'm assuming the Part Deux bill will be voted on immediately after the defeat of Reid's initial bill?

[elleng]

5. Thanks for being so informative, gate; just got here.

Reid said 'later today,' so no immediate vote on 'new improved.'

Reid, Manchin + Nelson (ND) voted nay. and Sanders.

[gateley]

6. My pleasure - it's easy now that I can listen to MSNBC live @ work

(when no one's around). :7

Even Reid voted nay!

:hi:

[elleng]

7. Yup, some tactic.

You at work now?

[gateley]

9. Yep. And it's nice and quiet and slow so I can MAYBE do some work

while I keep up w/DU and MSNBC! :7

[elleng]

10. Good luck!

:hi:

[elleng]

4. 50 yea 49 nay

future cloture votes today.

[Major Hogwash]

8. Dead.

Even Reid voted against it so he could bring it back later.

Fuck!

[elleng]

11. Tactical. 'New' deal on the way.

[Major Hogwash]

14. If there aren't sparkle ponies involved in it, I don't want to hear about it.

A girl's got to have her standards.

[derby378]

12. Music For Governments To Default By

http://www.mixcloud.com/derby378/music-for-governments-to-default-by/

America, enjoy your AAA credit rating while it still lasts!

[Major Hogwash]

15. Got anything by Avril Lavigne?

I was thinking more along the lines of that one song that they played in Apocalypse Now when the helicopters went in on the beach -- Ride of the Valkyries by Wagner.

[Critters2]

13. A vote on the legislation, or a cloture vote?

I'm confused.