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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 07:27 PM
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?? about the debt madness
OK, a lot of people are angry at O for putting stuff on the table, as a SS receprient, i am too, however, I need to ask this.

Suppose we do not budge, and the GOp does not budge, august 2 passes. What happens? And how do we stop the default from being blamed on us?, because we know the MSM will blame us mean old Social security check cashers.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 07:36 PM
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1. Historically, debt ceilings have been formalities, increased without demands
Considering its the GOP who tried to use this once formality as a means of blackmail I cant see the Dems (or Obama) getting the blame..... as long as the Democrats get out front with the issue of blame.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 07:40 PM
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3. Good post.
:thumbsup:

It's been raised so many times in the past (I think 16 or 17 times by St. Ronnie). Why is it such a big deal now?? Oh, yes, POLITICS. Just another game the repukes are playing.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 07:42 PM
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4. Not always. Every Democratic senator, including Obama, voted against raising the ceiling in 2006 (nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 07:38 PM
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2. Didn't McConnell already say that if Obama did it without them, they wouldn't veto it?
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 07:39 PM by patrice
I'm too sleepy from the heat to go look it up, but I think I saw that Friday. Not sure how that would work, but it does sound like a plan B.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 07:43 PM
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5. I believe that what happens is a lot of checks don't go out.
As in SS, government workers, military. Federal contractors. Doctors' Medicare reimbursements.

Foreign creditors will still get paid for awhile. There will probably be blood in the streets of DC and the republicans giving in before we actually default to foreign creditors.

This is what I think. I may not know what I am talking about.

As to who gets blamed? All the politicians will be blamed, I'm sure. Personally, I blame the voters who sent the right wing stupid yahoos to DC in the first place.


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