According to the report, published by Harvard University, July 4th-themed festivities (defined by the study as fireworks, parades, political speeches, and barbecues) not only energize primarily Republicans, but also turn children into Republicans and increase GOP voter turnout.
Just like all holidays we celebrate in this country...most are an excuse to drink beer. I don't need an excuse. Also I hear fireworks every night for about a week before and after the 4th, so people are not really celebrating the 4th of July now are they, they are blowing shit up and lighting things on fire. They aren't thinking of the meaning or explaining to their kids why they are celebrating. People celebrate cinco de mayo then go bash mexicans or vote for a teabagger who will deport them. Mothers Day, Fathers Day...can't we just appreciate the good things on a daily basis? If we knew what was good for us we'd be partying once corporations and the wealthy started earning their keep and this place became the "United" States of America again.
3. So you're proposing the 5th of July immediately follow the 3rd of July? What a stupid idea...
and what a stupid fucking study.
I've never voted for an R in a statewide or national election in my entire fucking life, but you can best believe that after attending the local 4th of July Parade we'll be barbequing at my house, then going down to the marina to watch the fireworks show over the lake. Been that way pretty much all my life.
4. I heard a local radio talk show discussing this.
The Reps were saying that since Dems are not as enthusiastic about parades and fireworks, they are not patriotic. I guess that came from this statement:
"Survey evidence also confirms that Republicans consider themselves more patriotic than Democrats. According to this interpretation, there is a political congruence between the patriotism promoted on Fourth of July and the values associated with the Republican party."
I suppose it all comes down to how you define "patriotism".
15. No, BS studies like this one by Harvard eggheads give the conservatives a reason to vent
Edited on Fri Jul-01-11 06:46 PM by cherokeeprogressive
From the study's abstract:
"We find that days without rain on Fourth of July in childhood have lifelong effects. In particular, they shift adult views and behavior in favor of the Republicans and increase later-life political participation. Our estimates are significant: one Fourth of July without rain before age 18 raises the likelihood of identifying as a Republican by 2 percent and voting for the Republican candidate by 4 percent."
Days without rain on the Fourth of July? I wonder what the shrimp on the treadmill would say about this study...
18. Why is that some in our party want to ban everything ...
Ban smoking, ban salt, ban fast food restaurants, ban guns, ban fireworks, ban the Bible, ban Fox News, ban gas guzzlers, ban incandescent light bulbs, ban violent video games, ban the Fourth of July, ban Christmas, ban any mention of God, ban, ban, ban, ban.
Banning stuff never works. We tried banning alcohol and we tried banning drugs and both efforts were complete failures.
I personally love living in a free nation. If I want to go to Burger King once a month and enjoy a hamburger and fries, smoke a cigar when someone has a baby or enjoy watching a parade on the Fourth of July I should be allowed to.
If we continue down this road we will lose a lot more voters than we will attract.
I'm sure we can all rally behind the 4th as the floods in N.Dakota wash homes away, as people cry in Tuscaloosa, Alabama for lack of shelter, as our roads and bridges crumble and as American farmers are unable to plant crops because of natural disaster. And, whats more.. no one is coming to help. All our money is tied up building schools in Iraq and Tribal Afghanistan.
31. That's a bad study with an obvious misconception.
Edited on Fri Jul-01-11 08:16 PM by Tiggeroshii
Correlation is not causation. While it's true that the Republican party has become a more nationalistic party, and July 4th inspires such nationalistic feelings; it is not necessarily the case that Independence Day is the cause for more Republicans.
Burn a flag while you're at it. And wipe your ass with the remains.
Why in the hell do you think those festivities "not only energize primarily Republicans, but also turn children into Republicans and increase GOP voter turnout."
Stupidity like this is why. You know, you can love your country without loving everything about it. And you can celebrate America's independence, wave the flag, grill up some burgers, some brats, toss back a PBR or two, and watch some fireworks.
You want to ban the 4th of July. My vote is to ban you instead.
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