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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 10:19 PM
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Miss USA contestants respond to a question about whether evolution should be taught in schools.
Edited on Mon Jun-27-11 10:26 PM by woo me with science
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 10:27 PM
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1. And such.
I believe 1+1=3 and that my math should be taught along with that other idiotic math, and such.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 11:00 PM
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2. I personally believe in evolution, but I'm a big science buff, and it's all about people being
able to choose their OWN beliefs, you know....

Help.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 03:25 PM
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4. The vast majority were clueless that evolution is part of the standard
high school biology curriculum. Even the big fan of science and such as.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:09 PM
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9. Must have been shopping for pageant dresses that semester... nt
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:01 PM
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12. Are you using Atheist Math, or Jesus Math?
We teach both sides in this school.

:banghead:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:04 PM
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14. Hey, yeah! Remember the loaves and the fishes?
We could solve this whole economic mess and the deficit by using Jesus math!
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 12:10 AM
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3. one doesn't "believe in evolution"
any more than one "believes in gravity". You either accept its reality, or deny reality. I really wish people would stop saying they "believe in evolution" or "believe in science" like it was some kind of faith you had to suspend rational thinking for.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 05:39 PM
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7. That was the part that galled me most about it, too.
Edited on Tue Jun-28-11 06:07 PM by woo me with science
Even the ones who believed they knew a lot about science and considered themselves "science buffs" had no concept whatsoever of what science is. "I believe in science...I'm a science buff...but everybody is free to have their own beliefs."

It's very sad when people can reach this age (and presumably a high school education level) and not have a clue that the scientific method exists or what it means.

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 09:49 PM
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15. And the sad thing is that I am not sure they are particularly unrepresentative
of people their age in that regard.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 03:31 PM
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5. I don't really think the fundies want ...
all that creationism taught in schools. They may think they do, but kids are not as dumb as their parents (haven't learned the bad mental habits/shortcuts), and when you present them with solid science as opposed to Faith-based bullshit, a good number of them will Lose Their Faith.

A lot of them think they want prayer in the schools, too....

but....


Dear John,
    As you know, we've been working real hard in our town to get prayer back
in the schools.  Finally, the school board approved a plan of teacher-led
prayer with the children participating at their own option.  Children not
wishing to participate were to be allowed to stand out in the hallway during
the prayer time.  We hoped someone would sue us so we could go all the way to
the Supreme Court and get that old devil-inspired ruling reversed.
    Naturally, we were all excited by the school board's action.  As you
know, our own little Billy (not so little, any more, though) is now in the
second grade.  Of course, Margaret and I explained to him no matter what the
other kids did, he was going to stay in the classroom and participate.
    After the first day of school, I asked him, "How did the prayer time go?"
    "Fine."
    "Did many kids go out into the hallway?"
    "Two."
    "Excellent.  How did you like your teacher's prayer?"
    "It was different, Dad.  Real different from the way you pray."
    "Oh? Like how?"
    "She said, 'Hail, Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners...'"
    The next day I talked with the principal.  I politely explained I wasn't
prejudice against Catholics but I would appreciate Billy being transferred to
a non-Catholic teacher.  The principal said it would be done right away.
    At supper that evening I asked Billy to say the blessings.  He slipped
out of his chair, sat cross-legged on the floor, closed his eyes, raised his
hands palms up and began to hum.
    You'd better believe I was at the principal's office at eight o'clock the next morning.
"Look," I said.  "I don't really know much about these Transcendental Meditationists,
but I would feel a lot more comfortable if you could move Billy to a room where the
teacher practices and older, more established religion.'"
    That afternoon I met Billy as soon as he walked in the door after school.
    "I don't think your going to like Mrs. Nakasone's prayer, either, Dad."
    "Out with it."
    "She kept calling God 'O Great Budda...'"
    The following morning I was waiting for the principal in the school parking lot.
"Look, I don't want my son praying to the Eternal Spirit of whatever or to Buddha.
I want him to have a teacher that prays in Jesus'  name!"
    "What about Bertha Smith?"
    "Excellent."
    I could hardly wait to hear about Mrs. Smith's prayer.  I was standing on
the front steps of the school when the final bell rang.
"Well?" I asked Billy as we walked towards the car.
    "Okay."
    "Okay what?"
    "Mrs. Smith asked God to bless us and ended her prayer in Jesus name, amen - just like you."
    I breathed a sigh of relief.  "Now we're getting some place."
    "She even taught us a verse of scripture about prayer," said Billy.
    I beamed.  "Wonderful.  What was the verse?"
    "Let's see..." he mused for a moment.  " 'And behold, they began to pray;
and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God.'"
    We had reached the car.  "Fantastic," I said, reaching for the door handle.  Then I paused.
I couldn't place the scripture.  "Billy, did Mrs. Smith say what book that verse was from?"
    "Third Nephi, chapter 19, verse 18."
    "Third what?"
    "Nephi," he said, "It's in the Book of Mormon."
    The school board doesn't meet for a month.  I've given Billy very definite instructions that
at prayer time each day he's to go out into the hallway.  I plan to be at that board meeting.
If they don't do something about this situation, I'll sue.  I'll take it all the way to the Supreme
Court if I have to.  I don't need the schools or anybody else teaching my son about religion.
We can take care of that ourselves at home and at church, thank you very much.
    Give my love to Sandi and the boys.
                                    Your buddy,
                                               Juan
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:15 PM
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10. It's funny and tragic at the same time, because there's so much truth to it.
It must take a lot of work to keep one's world so circumscribed.

The first time I heard people talking about "Jesus Camp," they were making fun of it ("Those crazy fundies!"), and I almost expected a comedic documentary.

...It was horrifying.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 03:46 PM
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6. Next year, let's ask about teaching the theory of Gravity...
I think we should "teach the controversy"
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:08 PM
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8. ...
:rofl: :thumbsup:
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 06:50 PM
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11. Let us pray.... Dear Lord please protect us from your followers
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 07:02 PM
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13. Careful, I said the same thing and it was nuked.
I guess that old bumper sticker is verboten these days at DU. :shrug:
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