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Duct Tape Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:04 PM
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Kansas: The First Abortion-Free State?
If new guidelines from the Kansas health department are enforced, the last three abortion clinics in the state could be forced to shut their doors this summer.

Back in April, the state legislature passed a law directing the Kansas Department of Health and Environment to author new facility standards for abortion clinics, which the staunchly anti-abortion GOP governor, Sam Brownback, signed into law on May 16. The law also requires the health department to issue new licenses each year, and it grants additional authority to health department inspectors to conduct unannounced inspections, and to fine or shut down clinics.

The department wasted no time in drafting the new rules, issuing the final version on June 17 and informing clinics that they would have to comply with the rules by July 1, as the Associated Press reported Wednesday. Peter Brownlie, president of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri, told the AP that inspectors were expected at their clinic in Overland Park, Kansas, on Wednesday. There are only three clinics left in the state: Planned Parenthood's, a clinic in Overland Park, and the Aid for Women clinic in Kansas City.

The new requirements require facilities to add extra bathrooms, drastically expand waiting and recovery areas, and even add larger janitor's closets, as one clinic employee told mechanges that clinics will have a heck of a time pulling off by the deadline. Under the new rule, clinics must also aquire state certification to admit patients, a process that takes 90 to 120 days, the staffer explained. Which makes it impossible for clinics to comply. And clinics that don't comply with the rules will face fines or possible closure.

Women seeking abortions already have a tough time in Kansas, where providers face death threats and evictions. Earlier this year, the state approved one law banning abortion after 20 weeks gestation, and another restricting private insurance coverage for abortions.

The state's latest approachwith its remodeling requirements and so forthis often referred to as "Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers." TRAP laws are intended to make it difficult, if not impossible, for clinics to operate, and they have become increasingly common around the country.

"Enactment of this type of legislation discourages health care providers from offering abortion care and can make provisions very burdensome and/or expensive for smaller providers," says Sharon Levin, vice president of the National Abortion Federation, the professional group representing abortion providers. The laws, Levin says, "do not make abortion safer; they just make it more difficult for abortion providers to remain open, and for women to access the abortion care they need."

A court fight over the rules is almost inevitable. But anti-abortion groups like Operation Rescue are already claiming success in making Kansas "the first abortion-free state."


http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/abortion-kansas-cli...
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Staph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:27 PM
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1. Not abortion-free.
Just legal abortion-free. If the Republican government of Kansas thinks that they will stop all abortions in the state, they're living in the Land of Oz.

Abortions will continue to happen, illegally, dangerously. And women will die.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:29 PM
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2. Ditto. Not abortion free, just the home of back alley 'doctors'.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:14 PM
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31. Exactly. Safe abortion-free. But dead women don't count to repukes.
They consider a dead woman collateral damage.

Abortions don't go down when they're made illegal. Women die instead. But repukes like that.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:27 AM
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33. Illegally, dangerously, and very expensive.
I took a friend many years ago to KS for her abortion. It's wrong what they want to do there now.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:46 AM
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34. I thought in a different direction
It seems like all three Kansas abortion providers are in Kansas City. Well Kansas City, Kansas is not that far from Kansas City, Missouri. However when I tried to find an abortion provider in KCMO, google gave me this http://www.abortion.com/abortion_clinics_state.php?coun...

It listed the Overland Park Clinic in Kansas, as a Missouri abortion provider.

Ultimately though, it might be cheaper to move the clinic across the river instead of remodelling.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 03:29 PM
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3. K&R for outrage
and for support of reproductive health care freedom for ALL US female citizens.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:00 PM
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4. good glad it's happening, if women vote for these idiots then they
deserve to lose their rights to control their own bodies.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:50 PM
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11. I sincerely hope that was sarcasm as you damn a lot of women who didn't vote
for those who passed this shit
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:53 PM
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13. Puh-leeze...
Huge swaths of women across the Redlands vote for
the Republicans every damned election. If women in
this country ever turned against the Republicans,
they'd never win another election again.

Tesha
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:00 PM
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16. And being glad that those who didn't vote repub also lost out? Puh-leeze yourself
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 06:51 PM by uppityperson
The post I replied to said was glad this happened, damning even those who didn't vote for the repubs.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:36 PM
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18. Maybe those non-voters will finally decide that voting makes a difference, even to them?
Americans have endless excuses.

Tesha
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:50 PM
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19. Do you seriously believe women either didn't vote or voted repub? ALL women?
so they ALL deserve this? Shame on you.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:55 PM
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21. Did I say all? But obviously "enough".
As I said (possibly in the other reply chain), once
those women who routinely vote Republican finally
decide to NEVER vote for the Republican bastards,
they Republicans will never win another election
again.

Tesha
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:03 PM
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17. Revolting.
Really, if you're going to say things like that...you probably shouldn't say anything at all.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:47 PM
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25. Are you kidding me?
Rights are inherent. They're not a reward for voting in the way you regard as correct.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:36 AM
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36. "Rights are inherent" is a nice theory, but we have millenia of proof that...
...the practical reality doesn't work that way.

And Americans, specifically, have been voting away their
rights since at least Nixon, and doing it with alarming speed
since Bush.

No one should be surprised when, in this situation,
inalienable inherent rights become completely alienable.

Tesha
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:51 PM
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27. And slaves that don't revolt should still be slaves.
:puke:
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:46 PM
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28. As a rule women are more apt to vote for Democrats
odds are a majority of women in Kansas did not vote for the people who passed these regulations.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:47 PM
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29. Wow a mean thing to say. Many women lose the right and did NOT vote for them! n-t
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:05 PM
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5. I've worked at the "Aid for Women's" clinic in Kansas City Kansas
It's going to be hard for that building to meet the requirements. However maybe not impossible. We'll see.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:11 PM
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6. Nope.. Women just do what they did in the 1960's...drive to another state
find some "med student" somewhere, and pay through the nose for a procedure that could kill them, or scam them out of money (sending them home still pregnant), or cause them to be sterile ..
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:12 PM
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7. Never Abortion-Free. Just paving the way for a rise in back-alley abortions
:grr:
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:17 PM
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8. Kansas ... first state to put a government official between a woman, her ...
uterus, and her obgyn!!

Let Freedom ring???

Apparently, the GOP role of "smaller government" is to enable it to crawl inside a woman's body to see what's going on in there.

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:28 PM
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9. And dammit, Dr Clinton is dead
A hero in Kansas reproductive rights; I'm proud to say I met him.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 04:39 PM
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10. The Big Intrusive Government State.
:puke:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:51 PM
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12. It would be entirely appropriate if there were no abortion in any Red State.
After all, that's what the voters of that state
(including, doubtless, a huge number of women)
voted for so they should be able to enjoy the
thoroughly-rotten fruits of their labors.

Then, when no woman can get an abortion (or
even contraception?) anywhere but a few Blue
States, the might finally figure out why
voting Republican isn't the best plan.

Tesha
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:48 PM
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26. A woman should know better. I guess you've never been there. nt
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:57 PM
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14. Virginia is pulling this crap, too
they may be down to a half-dozen clinics statewide.

Note that most of Kansas geographically has been "abortion-free" :eyes: since Dr. Tiller was assassinated. :grr: Patients at these three could just as easily drive a few more miles to KC, MO.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:00 PM
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15. What's the matter with Kansas?
This kind of bullshit. :grr: :banghead: :argh: :nuke:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:54 PM
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20. Watch the body count of back alley abortions RISE
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 06:58 PM
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22. Suddenly we're in favor of regulations and building codes, Mr. Brownback?
Raising the barrier to entry, nothing more or less. If the abortion clinics had a problem that was solved through these laws, I'd be on-board.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:08 PM
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23. Kansas: Where Women are second class citizens now
see, we on the left have had these right wing fascist/nazis pegged long ago. Told ya it would happen. If they have their way, they'll be tossing gays and liberals into death row.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 07:35 PM
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24. government small enough to fit in a vagina
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:00 PM
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30. How hard is it to get an abortion in CO, NE, MO or OK?
You know the ultimate solution for this, right? The women of Kansas simply need to obviate the need for abortion by refusing to have sex with men until the fundies mellow out.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:24 AM
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32. expect Kansas to ban birth control next, the Pro-Fetus crowd has that as a
priority, overturn Griswold vs Connecticut, etc. They're insane.


My question is this: SEEING how alec & other Republiscum are passing new laws to decivilize the USA WHY is it the Left seems to be avoiding passing laws NOW that will pre-emptively protect women, children, gays, disabled, unions, everyone-on-the-Right's-Enemies-List? THAT is what should be happening NOW.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:52 AM
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35. What "left"?
We have a right wing party and a falling-off-the-edge-of-the-world insane-clown-posse right wing party..

There is no left party in the USA.

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