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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 05:54 AM
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Gore faults Obama on global warming
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/06/22/gore-faults-obama-global-warming.html

US Vice President Al Gore is going where few environmentalists - and fellow Democrats - have gone before: criticizing President Barack Obama's record on global warming.

In a 7,000-word essay for Rolling Stone magazine that will be published Friday, Gore says Obama has failed to stand up for "bold action" on global warming and has made little progress on the problem since the days of Republican President George W. Bush. Bush infuriated environmentalists by resisting mandatory controls on the pollution blamed for climate change, despite overwhelming scientific evidence that the burning of fossil fuels is responsible.

While Gore credits Obama's political appointees with making hundreds of changes that have helped move the country "forward slightly" on the climate issue, and acknowledges Obama has been dealing with many other problems, he says the president "has simply not made the case for action."

"President Obama has never presented to the American people the magnitude of the climate crisis," Gore says. "He has not defended the science against the ongoing withering and dishonest attacks. Nor has he provided a presidential venue for the scientific community ... to bring the reality of the science before the public."
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:10 AM
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1. Dear unreccers:
Do you disagree with the substance of Gore's message
or do you just take offense that he's saying it about Obama?

Tesha
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:39 AM
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10. Good question. nt
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Admiral Loinpresser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 11:42 AM
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16. +1 googool
n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 12:09 PM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 04:48 PM
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20. Gore just wants President Palin!
:cry:
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:30 AM
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2. I look forward to reading this article.
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 06:37 AM by MBS
I support Pres. Obama, but the environment is not his strong suit, to say the least. In the White House, only Carol Browner seemed to be really passionate about the issue, and she's now gone.
There have been a few members of Congress who continue to push for climate change legislation (John Kerry, Ed Markey -- even Lieberman is better on this issue than Obama), but the silence from everyone else in Congress has been deafening.
Just yesterday, I heard VA senator Mark Warner ask, "how did we lose the (PR) battle on climate change? (He noted that in 2006, a clear majority of US voters-- 65% -- agreed that climate change was a problem, but in 2008 (or was it 2010?) only 35% or so did). .A strong bully pulpit in the White House could be very helpful here.


See also Ryan Lizza (summer and fall 2010) on this issue:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currents/2010/07/john-kerry.html
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/10/11/101011fa_fact_lizza?printable=true (among other things, this article points out that Axelrod was "less than committed" to climate change legislation", and was my source for notion that Carol Browner was pretty much the only person in the White House pushing for this as a priority)]

and OCt 2010 commentary by Max Fisher in the Atlantic
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2010/10/how-obama-lost-climate-change/22788/

What happened to our can-do country? The same country that pioneered the conservation movement, for heaven's sake?
So depressing. And perplexing. And frustrating.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:32 AM
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3. +1
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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:37 AM
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9. +1
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:40 AM
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11. Here it is (Gore tweeted the link about an hour ago):
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:45 AM
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4. I agree - we have to face some facts here
The situation with Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) is growing dire quickly. Our leaders are not taking action and showing strong leadership on this issue. We need to hold their feet to the fire and insist.

Yeah, let's get Obama elected in 2012 and then we will push him to show real leadership on critical issues like this one. But I will confess to holding my breath through this election cycle.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:47 AM
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5. Hey Al, you should have thought about that before you appointed lieberman. If you didn't do that
you might have won the election in 2000, and just maybe YOU could have done something

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:49 AM
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6. Gore says Obama has failed to stand up for "bold action"... You could cut it off right there. n/t
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:42 AM
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13. We could, but it's better if we don't. nt
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:55 AM
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15. I was thinking the same thing. nt
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:50 AM
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7. I agree that Obama is not an "environmentalist president"
However, I also disagree with Gore's solutions to the problems. Carbon credits, pollution penalties, excluding developing nations, etc. of Gore's plan are not workable solutions and will just encourage more jobs to be shipped overseas.

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:54 AM
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8. K&r
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:41 AM
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12.  Here's More On How DLC Screwed Al Gore
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 08:52 AM
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14. Found the link to Gore's article
here.

Direct link: Climate of Denial

Very interesting piece, excerpt:

<...>

First of all, anyone who honestly examines the incredible challenges confronting President Obama when he took office has to feel enormous empathy for him: the Great Recession, with the high unemployment and the enormous public and private indebtedness it produced; two seemingly interminable wars; an intractable political opposition whose true leaders — entertainers masquerading as pundits — openly declared that their objective was to ensure that the new president failed; a badly broken Senate that is almost completely paralyzed by the threat of filibuster and is controlled lock, stock and barrel by the oil and coal industries; a contingent of nominal supporters in Congress who are indentured servants of the same special interests that control most of the Republican Party; and a ferocious, well-financed and dishonest campaign poised to vilify anyone who dares offer leadership for the reduction of global-warming pollution.

In spite of these obstacles, President Obama included significant climate-friendly initiatives in the economic stimulus package he presented to Congress during his first month in office. With the skillful leadership of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and committee chairmen Henry Waxman and Ed Markey, he helped secure passage of a cap-and-trade measure in the House a few months later. He implemented historic improvements in fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles, and instructed the Environmental Protection Agency to move forward on the regulation of global-warming pollution under the Clean Air Act. He appointed many excellent men and women to key positions, and they, in turn, have made hundreds of changes in environmental and energy policy that have helped move the country forward slightly on the climate issue. During his first six months, he clearly articulated the link between environmental security, economic security and national security — making the case that a national commitment to renewable energy could simultaneously reduce unemployment, dependence on foreign oil and vulnerability to the disruption of oil markets dominated by the Persian Gulf reserves. And more recently, as the issue of long-term debt has forced discussion of new revenue, he proposed the elimination of unnecessary and expensive subsidies for oil and gas.

But in spite of these and other achievements, President Obama has thus far failed to use the bully pulpit to make the case for bold action on climate change. After successfully passing his green stimulus package, he did nothing to defend it when Congress decimated its funding. After the House passed cap and trade, he did little to make passage in the Senate a priority. Senate advocates — including one Republican — felt abandoned when the president made concessions to oil and coal companies without asking for anything in return. He has also called for a massive expansion of oil drilling in the United States, apparently in an effort to defuse criticism from those who argue speciously that "drill, baby, drill" is the answer to our growing dependence on foreign oil.

The failure to pass legislation to limit global-warming pollution ensured that the much-anticipated Copenhagen summit on a global treaty in 2009 would also end in failure. The president showed courage in attending the summit and securing a rhetorical agreement to prevent a complete collapse of the international process, but that's all it was — a rhetorical agreement. During the final years of the Bush-Cheney administration, the rest of the world was waiting for a new president who would aggressively tackle the climate crisis — and when it became clear that there would be no real change from the Bush era, the agenda at Copenhagen changed from "How do we complete this historic breakthrough?" to "How can we paper over this embarrassing disappointment?"

<...>


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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 12:11 PM
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18. K&R
America is suicidal... we elect people who hold money higher than human life.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 03:02 PM
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19. "Gore's doing the GOP's work for it!" "Gore cost the Party its rightful place in the WH!"
"Obama had so much to overcome: he's just a helpless babe in the woods. That's why he doesn't even try."
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 04:49 PM
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21. K&R we needed leadership
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 04:50 PM
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22. Lie ... Lie .... Lie.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 09:38 PM
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23. k & r
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