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Red Knight Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:38 AM
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Why is it that the medicare/social security rescue plans are all cuts?
That's the discussion on show after show after show.

There is no mention of raising revenue to save these programs. It's not even on the table.

The debate has shrunk to: Should congress do what is necessasary to save these systems( and by that it is now an assumed fact that this means cuts). To not cut is to allow the systems to die. There are no other options. There is no other talk. No other solutions. It's all about cuts.

This infuriates me. No talk of raising the cap. No other solutions.

Just cuts.

That's the only conversation allowed--no progressive ideas even make it to the table.

That's why we're screwed.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:43 AM
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1. Because the most important thing in the world is to make rich people rich.
That's why we live and breathe. We don't matter. The rich people who own the media and government can't make this any more clear to us.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:45 AM
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2. Because the powers that be smell blood in the water - they're closer than ever!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:03 PM
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10. +1000. nt
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:14 PM
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12. How in the hell did we get here from the blowout of the R's in 2008? Incredible!nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:47 AM
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3. The neo-liberal monologue. 24/7. Nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:49 AM
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4. With its manipulative "good cop bad cop" routine.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:52 AM
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5. indeed. nt
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Wounded Bear Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:33 PM
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15. Feels more like "bad cop, worse cop"
:shrug:
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:55 AM
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6. Why doesn't the US Army need to be rescued?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:56 AM
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7. Answer; b/c they already stole and spent the money, silly.
+ 1,000
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 11:32 AM
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8. Several reasons.
1) The goal is to eventually destroy SS and Medicare not fix it.
2) The SS and Medicare money was spent on wars. The GOPers will mention the billions of dollars of SS shortfall but will skip over the trillions of dollars spent to fund the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan which don't include future mandated spending that results from such warfare.
3) The GOPers love their regressive taxes. If the benefit of SS is eliminated, then it becomes one of the most regressive taxes in history and the rich get to laugh.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 12:33 PM
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9. Because politicians are bought and paid for by the rich
And the rich have never done better than under this sick economy, regulated by almost 100% right wing congressmen. Yes, almost 100%.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 03:05 PM
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11. Because anything that would truly put it on really sound footing
is "crazy lefty socialist fringy stuff":puke:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:16 PM
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13. In order to weaken citizens/families so it's easier for elites to steal from them -- !!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:26 PM
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14. Because they are not rescue plans. They are a transfer of wealth from
the middle class to the upper 10%. Cut medicare/social security, keep payroll taxes in place and provide a 30% personal income tax cut to the top 10% to provide jobs for illegal nannies and gardeners. Simple.
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Wounded Bear Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:35 PM
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16. Liberal media bias......oh wait....
:sarcasm:
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 05:38 PM
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17. Because cuts are what keeps the capitalist exploiting
class from having to pay more in taxes. Plus cuts benefits their drive to privatize everything. That's why EVERYTHING that being discussed will benefit the capitalists FIRST and FOREMOST. If it benefits the working class too, that's just an accident.
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