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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:50 PM
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Julian Assange Threatened To Sue Guardian For Publishing WikiLeaks Cables: Vanity Fair
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/06/julian-assange-threatened_n_805123.html">Julian Assange Threatened To Sue Guardian For Publishing WikiLeaks Cables: Vanity Fair

Julian Assange threatened to sue The Guardian unless the paper ceased its plans to published the State Department cables the WikiLeaks chief had given it, a Vanity Fair piece released Thursday reveals.

(snip)

However, the Guardian caught what it felt was a big break: unbeknownst to Assange, a former WikiLeaks volunteer had leaked the State Department cables to British freedom of information activist and journalist Heather Brooke, who had been instrumental in exposing the scandal over politician's expense accounts that rocked Britain in 2009. Leigh convinced Brooke to work with the Guardian, and the paper considered itself released from its pledge not to publish until Assange's say-so.

When Assange discovered that the Guardian had obtained the documents, had passed them on to other media outlets, including the New York Times, and was poised to publish them, he raced into the paper's headquarters and made his threat of a suit:

...Assange was pallid and sweaty, his thin frame racked by a cough that had been plaguing him for weeks. He was also angry, and his message was simple: he would sue the newspaper if it went ahead and published stories based on the quarter of a million documents that he had handed over to The Guardian just three months earlier...He had become the victim of his own methods: someone at WikiLeaks, where there was no shortage of disgruntled volunteers, had leaked the last big segment of the documents...enraged that he had lost control, Assange unleashed his threat, arguing that he owned the information and had a financial interest in how and when it was released...."


Good read. Vanity Fair piece itself http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/02/the-guardian-201102">here.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:51 PM
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1. Wow
K/R
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:07 PM
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3. i have to ask...is that the Snuggles bear?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:14 PM
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6. Yep!
:)
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:56 PM
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2. Darryl Issa will investigate Vanity Fair next
Vanity Fair does investigative journalism and Repukes fear that stuff.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:11 PM
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4. "had a financial interest in how and when it was released...."
How completely unsurprising to find out it's about the money.

Other disgusting things---


"As a result of the funding drive, says Kristinn Hrafnsson, by early 2010 WikiLeaks had accumulated roughly $1 million in its accounts, collected mainly by a German foundation."

And not a dime to Bradley Manning's defense fund, as promised.


Of course, Assange is all about protecting Afghan civilians, right???

"Associates say that Assange dismissed the need for editorial care, even as they urged him to take the task more seriously. Smári McCarthy, a former WikiLeaks volunteer, told The Independent in October that there were “serious disagreements over the decision not to redact the names of Afghan civilians.”"

Posters should read the article for how Iraqi civilian names weren't redacted, either--even though Iraq Body Count has requested that it be done....




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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:26 PM
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13. It's interesting, because the narrative has been that the papers did the redacting, not Wikileaks
...and the quality of the redactions (or lack thereof) has been hung around the necks of the Guardian et al. That it was a collaborative effort that ultimately became contentious is very important, I believe.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:36 PM
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15. Indeed, I think that's an essential point that should be explored.
Were civilians' names not redacted because of Julian Assange? Sort of undermines the claims that this is for the benefit of those same civilians.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:17 PM
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24. You two are jumbling a lot of different things.
The papers were responsible for choosing and redacting the cables in cablegate.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:28 PM
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27. That wasn't my take from this piece, but I'll read it again.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:32 PM
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28. Wikileaks was criticized (by Greenwald, others) for not redacting
carefully enough and they responded by changing their process for cablegate. I think I read that in one of Greenwald's columns but it is the case that they gave the files to those papers to pick from, to redact, in the case of the NYTs, to negotiate redactions with the White House. My understanding is, Wikileaks isn't even posting the cables to their own site until they have been published first by one of the papers they are working with.

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:53 PM
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31. I stand corrected, you're absolutely right.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:12 PM
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5. He "owned" the information?
Gee.. and here I thought his mission was to make sure no one "owned" information.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:20 PM
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8. I think his mission is "Julian Assange, me, myself, and I." n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:45 PM
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36. People who believe this sort ...
.. of story because they WANT TO amuse me.

This is hearsay by a hardly disinterested party, funneled through other hardly disinterested parties.

I'm sure no one in the media would just make shit up, naw that never happens.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:17 PM
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7. K&R....
St. Julian is an asshat.

Sid
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:24 PM
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9. What does this have to do with the importance of wikileaks?
Why are the people who clearly have an issue with the leaks themselves bothering to focus on Assange? I could care less who's in charge of wikileaks, they're still a great organization that have many more activists on staff than just Assange.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:35 PM
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10. And good thing, too. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:25 PM
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12. bah hahahaha. love it. lol. ah ha. nt
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:36 PM
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14. Arrggh! The irony! It burns!
:rofl:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 03:33 PM
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17. The concept and implementation of WikiLeaks is much bigger than Julian Fucking Assange.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 03:41 PM
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18. Some of us have repeatedly tried to point that out.
It doesn't always go so well.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 04:03 PM
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19. exactly. he's an asshole who loves the limelight. so what?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:24 AM
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43. You know, in my little town in rural Michagan, I'd hear similar about MLK from neighbors
and the pulpit. Fortunately, I had parents who were smarter than them.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 04:04 PM
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20. Reads like a half-baked hit piece on Assange.
Why the gratuitous insults to the man's physical appearance? That completely undermines the credibility of the reporter's accusations.

The breathless tone throughout the piece makes it all but unreadable to me.

Is that Justin Bieber on the cover? What happened to Vanity Fair? I sense some old media jealousy at work here.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:08 PM
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22. because it is
not surprised
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:14 PM
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23. Under the bus w' ye, Vanity Fair!
:D
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:35 PM
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29. LMAO.. yeah because "Vanity Fair" is such a big supporter
of progressive values and such an important piece of political journalism. Next week Justin Bieber is on the cover! I can't wait to see his take on Wikileaks.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:10 AM
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41. The Vanity Fair article is not so bad and I urge anyone who has an opinion on this to read it.
The Huff Post article? The usual lurid tabloid crap.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:19 PM
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26. The piece sort of peters out. Not one of their best efforts. n/t
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 04:05 PM
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21. Wow. Just wow.
So now we are digging really deep. Why is this story just coming out now? According to the article this happened last summer. I'd also like to see the direct quotes Assange made. I notice there is not a single direct quote of him saying " he owned the information and had a financial interest in how and when it was released...." I mean if he stormed into the Guardian offices and made such outrageous claims, someone must have heard him. So why isn't he quoted?

IMHO Assange is in it for whatever he's in it for, Wikileaks itself and the furor behind it is about more than some guy with a computer and some connections.

But go ahead with the attacks, I mean if there is one thing we need more of it's secrecy and coverups. More hidden policies and classified documents. For some reason a government that produces 50 million classified documents a year is just too fucking transparent.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:20 PM
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32. if the author didn't hear him say these things
then the author can't directly quote him. That's how journalism works. I'm not sure why anyone would find that a problem. That's as it should be.


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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:22 PM
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33. "Some people say...." n/t
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 02:52 AM
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37. huh?
Why would such a thing as that be in quotes if it isn't attributed to something someone said to the author, and why would it be considered appropriate journalism?

Your reply to my post makes no sense. Care to explain?


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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:36 PM
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30. Hit-piece.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:29 PM
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34. If only irony were painful.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:39 PM
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35. Yeah, there's a lot of irony in this thread. n/t
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 02:59 AM
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38. The Guardian is publishing a book titled "The Rise and Fall of Wikileaks... hmm.
This is not a horrible article but it certainly spends pages and pages puffing up The Guardian (i.e.,the traditional media).

Here is another side...

http://www.counterpunch.org/shamir01052011.html
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:05 AM
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40. The Guardian stinks to high heaven in all of this.
Thanks for the link. THAT was an excellent article.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:04 AM
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39. And apparently Wikileaks threat won. Because the Guardian is following the guidelines to the
original contract.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:20 AM
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42. And Assange and Wikileaks won the stand down.
Not mentioned in either the HuffPo piece or the Vanity Fair article, Assange an Wikileaks ultimately prevailed and the Guardian has released info based on the original contract.

How do we know that? We witness it with our own eyes.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:31 AM
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44. You said the same thing 16 minutes ago
The article shows the true intent and profit motive for Mr. Assange.

(What book deal?)
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:43 AM
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45. This one.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:44 AM
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46. What true intent?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 04:08 AM
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47. Notoriety
And a few simoleons.

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 04:10 AM
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48. So? eom
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