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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:20 PM
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This is the Observable Universe:
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 02:36 PM by MrScorpio
Each of those little dots aren't stars They're not even galaxies Or even clusters of galaxies They're SUPERCLUSTERS of countless galaxies.



Notice how our supercluster (The Virgo Supercluster) is so close to the center? That's because we can only see to a certain limit in all directions. Just imagine what's beyond our limits. Who knows, maybe even Superclusters of universes!

Makes you feel kinda small, don't it?

So, when you're so busy thinking about your worries, something like this should shed a different light on the big picture At least I hope it does.

Have a Happy D-Day.



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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:25 PM
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1. Well done!
I get the same sort of feeling when looking down from a high mountain... feeling insignificant is a good thing, especially when your troubles seem too big to handle because they are even smaller than we are.



I'm in the second tallest building in this picture at this very moment... all I need do is look out the window to feel very small... it's a good thing.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:26 PM
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2. Yea, but in 5 billion years this will all be irrelevant, you'll see.
:evilgrin:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:27 PM
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3. Billions and billions of stars...
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:29 PM
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4. No it's beeleeeyuns and beeleeeyuns. lol
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:29 PM
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5. You're underestimating the numbers of stars by a great deal nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:33 PM
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7. Just quoting Carl Sagan. He never said exactly how many billions.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:11 PM
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18. Actually, it was Johnny Carson that said, "billions and billions."
Sagan thought "billions and billions" was too vague.


...To help viewers of Cosmos distinguish between "millions" and "billions", Sagan stressed the "b". Sagan never did, however, say "billions and billions". The public's association of the phrase and Sagan came from a Tonight Show skit. Parodying Sagan's affect, Johnny Carson quipped "billions and billions".<2> The phrase has however now since become a humorous fictitious number - the "Sagan"....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billions_and_Billions:_Tho...




Ironically, there was a book of his published posthumously called, "Billions and Billions"

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:57 PM
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16. ...and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and... (nt)
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:30 PM
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6. Very cool. nt
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:35 PM
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8. Amen
my brother :fistbump:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:37 PM
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9. So the universe revolves around us
Or so it appears to us because of our narrow vision.

Cool
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:41 PM
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10. Excellent point
Our own myopia keeps up boxed in.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:17 PM
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22. No
more specifically, it revolves around ME. You only happen to occupy a relatively nearby point in my frame of view.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:44 PM
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11. And your Deity listens to each and every one of us. All ya gotta do is believe.
Sure. Most people cannot see much beyond their finger tips.
And in our self-important arrogance, we squabble among ourselves over small pieces of this vanishingly small, wet rock, while the rest of the universe doesn't even know we exist because we are lost in the vastness of the clutter around us.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:50 PM
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26. it isn't just faithful people who can be stupid. Can I have a calculator
to count the number of scientists who say yonder planet can't possibly contain life because it doesn't have ___. If it ain't like earth, there can't be life. Odd isn't it how narrow minded is not the province of a few? Read "Rare Earth".
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:46 PM
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12. Maybe we are the center of the universe.
After all, we are the observers. At the quantum level, everything is just a possibility until we make an observation. Why should it be any different at the other end of the scale?
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:54 PM
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14. The key point is "Observable"
What we can observe limits our ability to see an even bigger picture.

So it's more apropos to say that we're only at the center of what he can observe.

So, a fixing of a "center" could be faulty, if we only rely upon our limited perspective.

We are the center of our own universe, but not the universe as a whole.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:55 PM
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15. Well, theoretically, there's some truth to that.
If the Universe is indeed essentially an 'inverse spheroid', then technically any point is as much the center as any other.

To picture an inverse spheroid, simply imagine turning a ball inside-out without breaking the surface in any way.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 02:47 PM
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13. Is the universe....
.....really shaped like a can of Deviled Ham?

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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:00 PM
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17. Mmmm...
...add some Cream Cheese to the Universe then make sandwiches.

mmmmm...deviled ham and cream cheese - good freaking eats.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:14 PM
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19. Monty Python said it best in their Galaxy Song
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 03:15 PM by FSogol
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 10:22 PM
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30. I like it
Puts things in perspective.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:05 PM
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20. Why is cylindrical and not spherical?
I guess I would have expected it to be spherically represented. What is the source. I'd be interested in sharing this. That the dot is a whole supercluster is mind blowing!

Thanks!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:16 PM
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21. Here you go. Look at the giant graphic at the very bottom
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:18 PM
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23. oh don't give me your total perpective booths
I'm Zaphod Beeblebrox. THE Zaphod Beeblebrox.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:19 PM
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24. And presiding over the entire thing is a giant invisible man whose main concern is who you fuck
and whether or not you're married before you do!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:55 PM
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27. You mean "... married to 'them' before you do!"
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 05:59 PM by RC
Obviously that is very important in the grand scheme of things. This whole thing could come crashing down on us otherwise. And who wants to spend the rest of eternity squished down to a pin prick in the middle of all that? That would be Hell.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:20 PM
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25. Awesome.... folks with cable: New episodes of Through the Worm Hole with
...narrated by Morgan Freeman, are starting up again on the Science Channel this week, June 8th, 10pm.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:59 PM
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28. It shows mans degree of intelligence.
.00000000000000000000000000000009. In the grand scheme.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:05 PM
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29. How much gas would it take to make it to the Andromeda Galaxy in a Honda Civic?
The Andromeda Galaxy is the largest "local" galaxy to Earth.


http://www.rocketroberts.com/astro/howfar.htm

To make it to Andromeda in a Honda Civic we would need about 36,500 trillion gallons of gasoline! A standard Honda Civic would have to be modified to carry this amount of gasoline. The gas tank would need to have the capacity of about 730 million ocean going supertankers (with capacity of 50 million gallons each)! And, we'll be waiting a long time to "fill up" at the gas station. Even if the pump had the flow capacity of Niagara Falls, it would take over two thousand three hundred years to fill the tank!
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:07 AM
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31. This is all described in great detail in the Bible, Book of Genesis, Chapter 1, end of verse 16...
... right after the "two great lights" in the sky are created:

"... he made the stars also."

or as Isaac Asimov put it, "God makes his final adjustments to the sky."
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