Another RW myth - Illegal Immigration - guess when the numbers started to drop

[underpants]

Answer: 10 years ago

It wasn't the recession. It is enforcement but let's see 10 years ago who was not yet President?

The whole thing (as we all know) all the fuss all the "anger" is nothing. Smoke and mirrors.

The audio on this story is much than this excerpt.

Numbers from the Department of Homeland Security show a drop in apprehensions along the border — from more than 1 million five years ago to less than half a million in the past fiscal year. Fewer people are attempting to cross because there are fewer jobs available.

A Decade-Long Trend

But the trend began a decade ago, long before the recession began.

"This has been something that took hold when we started resourcing the borders — adding the infrastructure that was required, the technology — and that drop has continued," says Deputy Customs and Border Protection Commissioner David Aguilar.

And there's still one place left where relatively large numbers of people still cross the border illegally: Arizona.

But even those numbers, says Aguilar, are low compared with what he used to see. There were 219,000 apprehensions last year in Arizona, less than half the number a decade ago. And despite high-profile incidents like the killing of a border patrol agent last month and a southern Arizona rancher last March, the FBI reports that overall violent crime in Southern border states is way down from a few years ago.

"We believe that the current policy of giving citizenship based on your GPS presence in the U.S. at birth is a bad interpretation of the 14th Amendment," he says.

Kavanagh and legislators from 13 other states will announce a plan Wednesday they hope will result in the Supreme Court's reviewing the way birthright citizenship is applied
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/04/132657708/immigration-enforcement-working-numbers-show

[Parche]

1. run fatherland security run

:woohoo:;:hi:

[underpants]

2. run female chain gang run

Sheriff and prime a-hole Arpaio is going to have himself a female chain gang soon.

I wonder if he will get a celebrity endorsement from Pam Greer. :P

[happyslug]

3. People tend to forget you need a push as while as a pull for immigration

While the US is a big pull for immigrants from Southern Mexico and Central American (Where most immigrants come from, through mainline China and Ireland are also where immigrants come from), in addition to a draw you need someplace to draw from. Immigration into the US slowed down in 1913 and stopped in 1915, as Europe went to war. It resumed in 1919 until immigration reform stopped most immigration by 1924. Why? The area the US was drawing people from, Italy and Eastern Europe ended up in war and anyone who wanted to immigrant was drafted instead (And do to the war wages in Italy and Eastern Europe went up further dropping the pool of immigrants between 1915 and 1918).

Since the 1960s, Latin American has been the main area the US has drawn immigrants from. The Irish were a big factor in the 1990s but when Ireland booming after 9/11 (Not to do with 9/11 but roughly the start of the latest Celtic boom) the number if illegal Irish immigrants declined rapidly (as good if not better prospect back in Ireland). China has also had a boom, so Chinese illegal immigrants have declined.

A further source of decline was that the wars of the 1980s in Central American ended and those countries slowly return to normal, eliminating one of the major reason for people to leave Central America and travel illegally to the US. The full affect of NAFTA hit in the 1990s, after it was past, forcing a lot of peasant Farmers off their farms in Southern Mexico and into the US (US Corn farmers had to right under NAFTA to dump their corn into Mexico). The rise in the price of oil, which lead to an increase in bio-fuel saw a reversal of that trend, bring the price of corn back up so that immigration is NOT look good over staying home and getting the corn harvest in. All of the above has reduced to PUSH for people to immigrant from Southern Mexico and Central America.

Lets also not forget the reduction in construction, this has reduced the DRAW to immigration.

None of these items had anything to do with Bush or even homeland security and thus we can say the reduction in illegal immigration is more a product of the price of oil going up then anything else.

[underpants]

4. That was a great post

the corn part especially

but you are right it has more to do with oil (everything does) than anything.

[Recursion]

5. The job loss started before this recession

The oughts were net-negative for jobs even before the recession, weren't they?