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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:34 AM Original message |
WikiLeaks' Most Terrifying Revelation: Just How Much Our Government Lies to Us |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. He cares about people. To this country, that is a crime. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. It isn't that Wikileaks doesn't expose crimes. It is that we have |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Well, I don't think a majority of Americans have any real grasp |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
52. Other Countries are looking at it though. That might count for something. But the more revealed the |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Anyone who's lived through the Vietnam War (or any war, whether it's declared war or not) |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. wow. so true and so eloquently stated: |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. You rock sabrina. +10000 |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Well put, sabrina 1, but I'd expand this: |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. Who did not know that civilians died in war? People need to pay attention |
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purrFect (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Did you know that they are being murdered in greater percentages with each new war? |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. I would like to believe that. But, so long as the "Other" is demonized ... |
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Lenomsky (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. there will always be a stridently raucous contingent that wants to "nuke 'em all" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. Hmmm yes and no |
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SlimJimmy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
66. You made the point for me. These conflicts pale to the civilian |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Plausible deniability has been shattered. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Right on! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. +1000% -- |
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howmad1 (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
50. Yes, "our leaders are knowingly sending troops into war"...... |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #22 |
58. Just like they did in Vietnam. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Given the limited and unrealistic reporting on these wars -- except by Pentagon -- we have |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. I think you're too kind |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. When you look at how poorly informed the public is on every subject .... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. recommend |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
4. K & R |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Great post |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. The evidence is there ... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That's true as long as the wealthy control the airwaves - |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
9. War benefits the Warmongers. |
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havbrush (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. War benefits warmongers |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
57. W is for Warmonger |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. When Americans understand the recession is a result of the cost of making war |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. +1000% --- We are all the Native American .... |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Sad but true. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
61. Terrifying thought! So you're saying that if we want to see our future |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. K&R. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
17. This. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
18. And that is the point of the whole operation. Wake up America. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
53. Yes. Wake up America. If only they could from their pharmaceuticals and drugged waters and |
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pauldp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R. Nails it. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
20. Kicked and recommended. |
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FlyByNight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
21. Per William Blum... |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. I think this is only "terrifying" to anyone who DOESN'T assume that if a military spokesperson's... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:47 PM Original message |
K&R |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
26. No shit |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. Big K & R !!! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
30. I understand why they call the USA "The Great Satan". Satan is the father of the lie... |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Interesting you should say that. I just thought today how all the evil people are coming to |
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MicheleMooreHappy1 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
31. Watch Biden's 180 Turn Agains Wikileaks |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
32. Assange does this at great risk to himself and for no real gain |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. there's a democracy now interivew with Julian Assange |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
36. It is truly same shit different decade |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
38. The Pentagon Papers revealed that 40 years ago. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. K&R |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
40. this government is/has been a habitual liar-a disney confection of bullshit |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:05 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. It is frightening to know it is worse than we thought. |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
42. K & a huge R for the entire thread. |
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lordsummerisle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
44. Great post k&r n/t |
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WestSeattle2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. Color me cynical, but I assume anything and everything coming |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Not an unwise assumption. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. color me cynical too. I keep making the same wrong assumption that |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
51. No, what's terrifying is how we, as a people and society, allow our government to lie to us |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #51 |
62. You're right. The real "sin" of WikiLeaks |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
56. Sad K&R. //nt |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
59. What really irritates me is |
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cartach (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
60. US is worse than Nazi Germany. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:12 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Way to minimize the Nazi's, and demonstrate that you need to read up. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
65. k&r |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
67. Keep speaking Truth to power |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
68. Well |
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