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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:12 PM
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Should Obama have named the Seal team?
A question my Mom asked. Not sure how she came to pose the q but a valid one anyway. She says now they are living in fear. Or should be for retaliation by Muslim Extremists. They were at the White House now everyone knows who they are.

Should they have been left to anonymity? Their stories told later rather than sooner?

Of course there is a huge financial trade off for being named. The books, the movies the careers living off the raid etc....
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:14 PM
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1. What do you mean?
Edited on Fri May-13-11 03:15 PM by Thrill
Their names haven't been released. And I don't recall them being at the WH either
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:28 PM
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15. No, not at the WH. He met them at Ft. Campbell, KY
Edited on Fri May-13-11 03:31 PM by pinboy3niner
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-meets-with-participants-in-raid-that-killed-bin-laden/2011/05/06/AF1QaqAG_story.html


ETA: It was a private meeting at an undisclosed location on post. The team members were not 'outed' by meeting with the President and VP.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:30 PM
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16. well the press etc..(but yeah good info)
okay.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:32 PM
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19. The press didn't even see them.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:38 PM
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26. The Press hasn't seen them or know their names
has she been listening to one of those wacky conservative talk shows?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:14 PM
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2. He actually named them?
That seems unwise. Are you sure?
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:27 PM
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13. No not by name but the outfit. Sorry might have been unclear..
make them easy enough to find the info I think.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:33 PM
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20. LoL. No. That info is highly classified.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:36 PM
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23. Exactly. The President did not identify their unit. nt
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:15 PM
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3. Yes, he should have named them Sparky.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:31 PM
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17. That's my kitteh's name! nt
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:47 PM
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32. Does your cat claim to be a Navy SEAL?
I mean, there's been entirely too much of that among humans -- we don't need more among cats. Or orcas, either.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:50 PM
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34. It figures. Darn cats always think they're so 'elite'!
:)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:53 PM
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35. He did, but I told him straight up that I knew that on the night in question
Edited on Fri May-13-11 03:54 PM by blondeatlast
he was prowling for a cricket, not a tyrannical, porn lovin', murderous asshole geek.

He looked uncomfortable, went on about his business, then laid said cricket at my feet about a half-hour later.

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:00 PM
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40. Amazing how he broke into the cricket's fortified compound...
...completed his mission, and delivered the indisputable proof to you that he got the right cricket. Kitteh Team Six strikes again! :)

:hi:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:03 PM
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42. And said cricket was buried at--well, KINDA at sea. It was water, anyway...
:rofl:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:07 PM
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43. ROFL!
:toast:
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:01 PM
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41. kewt!
That was the name of the performing seal at the local zoo.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:17 PM
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4. I don't believe they have been named
have they? That would be highly unusual.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:18 PM
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5. The fact that he named them is news to me. I hadn't heard that anywhere.
And, really, I don't think it actually happened. I'm kind of a news junkie (aren't we all here at DU?) and I'm fairly certain this would be discussed heavily on the cable shows.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:18 PM
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6. He didn't. This is BS:
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-06/world/bin.laden.main_1_terror-plot-al-qaeda-members-bin?_s=PM:WORLD

A senior administration official told CNN the meeting between Obama and members of SEAL Team Six would take place at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said it would be a private meeting.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:19 PM
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7. Their names are classified. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:20 PM
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8. I don't believe any of their names have been released.
Ask your Mom where she heard that. Sounds like RW propaganda to me.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:23 PM
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9. Tell your mom to stay off the Faux and Rush.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:25 PM
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10. No names. The SEALS are living in fear of the muslim extremists? Don't make me laugh...
Edited on Fri May-13-11 03:26 PM by truebrit71
...They weren't at the White House, the Prez went to them, more than likely for the very reason of privacy..

I am absolutely certain their story will be told, and sooner rather than later...In fact the Director of 'The Hurt Locker' itself an oscar-winning war film, has already looked at turning her latest project into a story about the raid...
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:58 PM
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36. I would imagine that some terrorists are living in fear of the SEALs.
And the names of a lot of the terrorists ARE known.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:25 PM
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11. I don't think he should name them. They deserve anonymity/privacy. Most of the vets I know don't

think it's right to celebrate the act of killing in such a way as people are doing about OBL. I mean the way people are dancing in the streets and such... If I had to cope with having killed him on my conscious I would not want to be exposed to that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:27 PM
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12. This "concern" is the right wing's attempt to slam the president
and it's a pretty weak one. No names have been released.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:27 PM
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14. We know that one of them is around six feet tall.
That detail should never have been released.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:33 PM
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21. I heard there were two 6 footers. Wait, no, six tw-footers?
Damn blonde moments!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:59 PM
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38. Yeah, it narrows it down to maybe half of the people in the military.
Edited on Fri May-13-11 04:01 PM by damntexdem
;-)

(Hey, the "half" is hyperbole.)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:32 PM
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18. Provide for us the name of ONE guy that was involved in that mission.
Betcha can't do it.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:35 PM
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22. What you got in mind
Moe, Curly , Larry etc. ,
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:37 PM
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24. Let me backtrack.. Not name person by person but the unit...
at all. Or should he have said navy Seals Unit and left it at that. Or highly trained operatives etc.

I asked her where she got the question and it was not from FOX. She mentioned this a few days ago too....In fact she watches more MSNBC than FOX and more Food Channel than anything.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:39 PM
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27. It's just like if he said CIA team #2. Nobody knows who that is.
Not even their families.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:40 PM
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28. The Unit name doesn't tell anyone anything
. They are in no danger. You have to know who is in a certain unit. Which no one on the outside knows
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:42 PM
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29. The President did not name their unit
News reports indicated he did not name a unit even when the press asked him if it was 'Seal Team Six.' He mentioned no unit designation at all.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:46 PM
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31. Well, in that case...
yes, he should have.

Let's think about what most Americans know about the Navy SEALS pre and post ObL.

Pre-ObL:
*They are tough.
*Demi Moore was in a movie about them.

Post-ObL:
*All of the above
*There's at least 6 teams.

Yeah, I betcha they are just cowering in fear now. :eyes:
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:37 PM
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25. No....
...often the average American has all the situational awareness of a fart.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:42 PM
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30. No, SEALs not named, but...
...the name Obama isn't very common. Pretty concerned about his daughters.
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:57 PM
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46. I have been thinking
the same thing for awhile now. Those poor girls will have to have security the rest of their lives. Sick, wacko, extremists have nothing but time for revenge. Imagine waking to every sound in the night and wondering if a nutcase was hell bent on making a statement with your life.



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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:23 PM
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47. "...making a statement with your life."
That gave me chills to the point of nausea. You have a way with words.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:49 PM
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33. Anybody who knows a thing about how JSOC works
Edited on Fri May-13-11 03:51 PM by nadinbrzezinski
would know that it was either SEAL TEAM SIX, or a few other outfits.

The number of teams we have is really small, the community is really small... and the number of units that can do this is really small.

Counting support personnel... we are taking 5K people TOPS.

Oh and I forgot... identity of these people is HIGHLY CLASSIFIED.

There is more... NONE of those operators will make a red cent out of this. This is one of those missions that is deep sixed (IDs that is) so far down it is not even funny.

Perhaps in forty years... maybe... it will be safe enough when somebody will be allowed to speak.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:59 PM
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37. Yes
There's nothing wrong with it.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:00 PM
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39. I'm guessing this is so deep in secrecy....they weren't even SEALS.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:17 PM
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44. Para-
meciums?
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:18 PM
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45. Manatees
:evilgrin:
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:38 PM
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48. This is Double Super Secret Background: They were Giants
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