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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 03:57 PM Original message |
Carl Sagan on redshift |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. I've always thought the |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Me too. This is taken from that link which was the introduction to a book that |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Incorrect. There is physical evidence to back up the big bang, in the form of 3 degrees of microwave |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Billions and billions and billions and billions..... don't diss my bud Carl. n/t |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I'm not. He would be appalled that you're misappropriating his words to peddle this crap. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. +1...nt |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. +2.n/t |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Yep. However, could this mean Quasars are closer than previously thought? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. No argument from me |
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Salviati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. There is a good amount of observational evidance to support the big bang... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. This should be moved to Religion/Theology. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. So I have the final word from you.... or I could read elsewhere and get closer to |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. I miss Carl Sagan |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. Velikovsky enthusiasts. Okie-dokie. Nodding and smiling and backing towards the door. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Paint it any way you see it pardner, and yes, you are not my pardner, least not yet. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Meh. Science is to me an abstract cartography: a plausible map of the explored world, |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. But but but they say there is a problem with the CMB, but it is not only them, |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. Arp is awesome. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Then you would appreciate the introduction, first post, only link. From yours: |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Big Science worries about data that rocks the boat. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Ever consider that's because they're clearly orbiting each other? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. That's the point. They are somehow linked, yet their redshifts are way different. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You know how it works when two objects orbit each other, right? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Einstein stepped out of line |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Any time you have people talking about scientists 'conspiring to ignore the truth', red flag: |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. there are books which explore the many, many times throughout history when establishment science was |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Someone actually had the audacity to say that continents drift. What a fool... for |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. pseudo science meme |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Put out by The Vatican and The Discovery Institute, no doubt. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Let's play, the sun's magnetic poles flip every 11 years, and that happens |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. "That is an unacceptable premise" -okay, if you say so. |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Agreed, I veered and shouldn't have. Even though it is off topic, if you will, I found |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Science is self correcting- actually, it tends to add on ever more layers of complexity until |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. pseudo science meme |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. is this a roundabout way of getting at Jesus riding a dinosaur? |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Dinosaurs were banned in the Holy Land, so no. n/t |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. then how could the priest sacrifice the fatted raptor? |
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