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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 04:04 PM
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New York Gov. Cuomo refuses to renew tax on millionaires

New York Gov. Cuomo refuses to renew tax on millionaires

by Laura Clawson

As David Nir wrote the other day, New Yorkers overwhelmingly support a tax on millionaires. But New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo says that doesn't matter; he's not going to renew a tax surcharge on millionaires. No, Cuomo is taking what he'd like us to see as a brave stand:

“The fact that everybody wants it, that doesn’t mean all that much,” he said in a news conference. “I represent the people. Their opinion matters, but I’m not going to go back and forth with the political winds.”

Mr. Cuomo insisted that under no circumstances would he consider backing the extension of the surcharge, saying it would encourage residents and businesses to move to other states. He said he would support a federal millionaires’ tax, because it would treat residents of all states equally.

It's hard to argue with the contention that sometimes politicians should just do what's right, damn the polls. However, it's easy to argue with Cuomo's contention that the tax would actually disadvantage New York as millionaires left the state. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities rounds up the evidence that tax flight is a myth. Not only are non-tax factors like housing prices and public services important in people's decisions about where to move, or move away from, but:

Recent research shows income tax increases cause little or no interstate migration. Perhaps the most carefully designed study to date on this issue concerned the potential migration impact of New Jersey’s 2004 tax increase on filers with incomes exceeding $500,000. It found that while the net out-migration rate of this income group accelerated after the tax increase went into effect, so did the net out-migration rate of filers with incomes between $200,000 and $500,000, and by virtually the same amount. At most, the authors estimated, 70 tax filers earning more than $500,000 might have left New Jersey between 2004 and 2007 because of the tax increase, costing the state an estimated $16.4 million in tax revenue. The revenue gain from the tax increase over those years was an estimated $3.77 billion, meaning that out-migration — if there was any at all — reduced the estimated revenue gain from the tax increase by a mere 0.4 percent.

Cuomo is opposing a surcharge that would affect income over $1 million per year, which would raise $2.8 billion in the coming fiscal year—just the right amount to plug a projected $2.4 billion budget shortfall. From fiscal year 2011 to fiscal year 2012, New York reduced its per-student school spending by 7.2 percent (PDF).

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The operative word being "renew," meaning the tax is already in place.

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 04:08 PM
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1. Those millionaires and billionaires are choking the life out of our democracy. n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:47 AM
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8. They can't do it alone. Aided and abetted by elected politicians. n/t
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 04:29 PM
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2. Pretty sickening, if you ask me. Shit like this is why I wonder if I can stay a Democrat.
You can't get rid of this crap in primaries. Virtually every progressive I know in Colorado voted for Romanoff over Bennett in the primary but Bennett big money backers paid off, as did a visit or two from Obama fundraising for and endorsing Bennett.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 04:33 PM
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3. Pretty easy to understand since he's one of "them." Tool.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 05:22 PM
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4. K&R
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 05:23 PM by slay
yes, i do K&R your threads from time to time. :P And good point on the "operative word being Renew".
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 05:36 PM
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5. Weren't we told a while ago b/c of marriage equity in NY, Cuomo was all good and Obama was all bad?
I am not ready to throw Cuomo under the bus on this, however I think when we judge any of our elected leaders we should judge their ENTIRE record. In this case I am happy with both Obama and Cuomo, neither is perfect but I can't throw either under the bus on any given issue.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 05:56 PM
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12. something I mentioned at the time
despite your dishonest attempt to pretend people like me didn't.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:28 AM
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6. With Dems trying for a federal surtax on gazillionaires, Cuomo isn't being helpful with this.
Plus it's stupid policy to eliminate this tax which would "plug a projected $2.4 billion budget shortfall." Derp.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:44 AM
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7. Cuomo is owned by the Koch Bros. He accepted $400,000 from them for his gubernatorial campaign.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 11:47 AM by ClarkUSA
Read: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=andrew+cuomo+koch+brothers+$400,000+campaign+donation&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

He also is very cozy with right wing hedge funders who are Koch Brother allies.

I say this as a born and bred New Yorker: The guy stinks. Mario raised a DINO. He is an enemy of unions and the middle-class. NY is drowning in property taxes and this sell-out won't increase revenue on his rich pals because he's angling for the White House in 2016.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:58 AM
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9. Cuomo in 2016
He won't make it.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 12:05 PM
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10. Oh, there are many here who gushed over him a couple of months ago and wanted him to run in 2016...
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 12:10 PM by ClarkUSA
... just because of his calculated feel-good approval of gay marriage, whom he brokered with the seal of approval from his top right wing hedge funder backer (whose son is gay) and the Koch Brothers:

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=andrew+cuomo+gay+marriage+hedge+funder+koch+brothers&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

More importantly, Cuomo is positioning himself to be the leading darling of primary voters in 2016 because of it. He's as calculated as they get and is very much going to be a frontrunner for the Democratic nomination in 2016.

And unlike with President Obama, the Koch Brothers WANT Andrew Cuomo aka. their political handpuppet, to win. Andrew will use his dad as liberal cover for his DINO DLC inclinations, too. Bookmark my words. :puke:

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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:20 PM
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11. yup and they wanted him to primary president obama, don't
forget that. maybe it comes down to being a good leader of your state or country and not trying to be a good leader for your party.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:40 PM
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13. The fact is, as I said in real time, I wouldn't support him in a primary
under most circumstances. My problems being both his position on the millionaire surtax and what he did to public employee unions in his state but you have no evidence whatsoever that Cuomo is insincere in his advocacy for marriage equality, and it is marriage equality not gay marriage. Marriage doesn't change character simply because the great unwashed gay folk like me use it. Cuomo put real political capital on the line for marriage equality. He deserves a huge amount of credit for it having passed.
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