Both Bachmann and Perry will implode from "foot in mouth" disease. We just have to wait for it.

[LuckyLib]

It's already happening with Bachmann -- ridiculous comments that are labelled "jokes" by her staff. Perry's shenanigans in Texas will catch up with him soon and he will have to explain himself. Mouth meet foot.

[gateley]

1. I just heard something about the "joke" by Bachmann -- what did she

say, do you know? Thanks.

[LuckyLib]

2. She's ranting about Irene being "God's will" to get the attention of lawmakers.

Here's discussion on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4977615

[starroute]

19. Wouldn't that quality as taking the name of the Lord in vain,?

I've just been poking around on Christian sites to see what they actually take that commandment to mean. And though a lot of them define it pretty narrowly as saying "God damn it!" other have a broader understanding that would seem to include Bachmann's "joke."

http://carm.org/exodus-207-do-not-take-name-lord-vain

God commands us not to use His name in vain.

A. The NIV translates it as, "Do no misuse the name of the LORD." But most Bibles say, ‘Do not use the name of the LORD in vain.’

B. The word vain is the Hebrew word shav. It has a variety of translations including emptiness, vanity, falsehood, nothingness, emptiness of speech, lying, and worthlessness.
i. To misuse God's name means literally, "to lift it up to or attach it to emptiness."
ii. No one is to use the Lord's name in this manner.

So which is it, Michele? Do you really believe God sends text messages to earth via natural disasters? Or were you taking the Lord's name in vain by turning your own religion into a joke?

[gateley]

20. Thanks! Jeez, that's their answer for everything, isn't it? Like

there's never been a hurricane before. :eyes:

[mwb970]

26. Not only that, but why couldn't Irene show God's displeasure with teabaggers?

We didn't start this run of weird natural disasters until the Tea Party was formed. Why couldn't THAT be what God is mad about? Supposedly "Christian" teabaggers defile the message of Christ with each un-American, inhuman policy and statement. What's a God to do?

[Honeycombe8]

3. Not Perry, I think. That's what he does: Runs for Office. He doesn't govern. One thing....

the one thing that may cost him is his stance on illegal immigrants. Texas is a sanctuary state, with Perry's blessing. Houston is a sanctuary city, with Perry's blessing. Many of the so-called "new jobs" here in Texas are filled by illegals, with Perry's blessing. (Big 'bidness like cheap illegals, and Perry likes whatever big 'bidness likes.)

When all of that starts to get out...the tea partiers and other Republicans won't be happy.

He's already trying to backpeddle. Making statements about the need for a fence, etc., etc. But that is not his history with that issue.

[nsd]

4. Let's hope Perry doesn't implode before he takes out Romney.

Of the Republican candidates, I think only Romney has a chance to beat Obama.

[PatSeg]

5. That's what I was thinking

In comparison to Perry and Bachmann, Romney looks far too sane. Huntsman would be a threat to Obama if anyone knew who he was.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. Don't underestimate the stupid. Bush* imploded that way constantly - look where it "got" him

(with understanding that both his "victories" were crimes of election theft)

[and-justice-for-all]

7. Wait for it? those fucks do it everyday already....

the say some of the most fucked up shit and lie on top of it all.

[Douglas Carpenter]

8. Ronald Reagan said dumb, crazy stuff all the time,,,and he still never lost an election

When the economy is doing poorly or perceived as doing poorly incumbent presidents almost always become unpopular and lose. When the economy is doing well or perceived as doing well incumbents presidents almost always become popular and win. But President Obama has a better chance than most of defying this pattern - simply because his most likely opponents are so far removed from the majority of American consciousness. In a sane and rational world Rick Perry would not have a prayer of a chance to win the presidency. In fact it would have been inconceivable in the days before right-wing extremism was mainstreamed into American popular culture over the last thirty years or so. But he still should not be electable. Most Americans - the vast majority certainly believe in God and that Jesus Christ is the savior - but they are not right-wing religious nuts about it - like the people Rick Perry makes a point of surrounding himself with. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush could win because the country club Republicans and the Wall Street Republicans were on board and as enthusiastic as the right-wing fundamentalist - but they had no worries that the fundamentalist would be actually calling all the shots. Rick Perry may well scare away a lot of Republican voters and economically conservative but somewhat socially liberal independent voters because one does get the impression that the right-nuts will be calling most the shots if he should win. But we still can not ignore the simple reality that the economy is most probably not going to be doing that well in October/November 2012 and under such circumstances the unthinkable becomes completely plausible.

[bigdarryl]

10. Reagan is liberal compared to these nuts

[Douglas Carpenter]

13. Even George W. Bush is starting to look liberal compared to these nuts

What passes for acceptable political discourse course is way to the right of where it was in 1980 and 1984 and even 2000 and 2004. Even Reagan Republicans - even George W. Bush had to at least claim that they believed in helping those who really were not able to help themselves. Reagan Republicans and even George W. Bush could not have imagined painting the wealthiest 2% as victims and the bottom 50% as parasites. Maybe they thought it and mumbled it among themselves. But they could have never said it out loud. But this is now mainstream discourse in today's post-Reagan/post George W. Bush America

[Cosmocat]

18. A guy you would like to have a beer with ...

That is how they packaged a moron while somehow finding a way to negatively frame Al Gore as "arrogant."

The "liberal media" advances whatever frames the right wing wants it to ...

[benld74]

9. They 'foot and mouth' everytime they open their mouths! MSM NEVER calls them on it!!!

[Cosmocat]

15. We have a winner ...

We crossed that line a while ago - Rs can say pretty much anything, as long as they don't apologize for it, which they have learned not to, it goes away ...

[mac56]

25. Bachmann puts her foot in her mouth so often

that her favorite flavor is "toe."

[JoePhilly]

11. The media will clean up any mess they make.

[Cosmocat]

16. Yep, see above ...

[cheapdate]

12. Completely wrong about implosion. These people absolutely don't care.

[Douglas Carpenter]

14. yeah two main points:.their followers don't care and the media will have their backs

at least in the case of Perry. Bachmann is not considered electable and a little too embarrassing - so they may have a go at her.

[Cosmocat]

17. Agreed on all points ...

[TheBigotBasher]

21. Bachmann is like Palin -

a money train for the GOP. The Christian Fundies love them and will give good $$$s to hear them speak. Neither of them will win a Primary but Palin did win the 2010 elections for the GOP.

Bachmann cannot win but she will attract lots of fundie money. The GOP candidate has already been decided. It is Perry. The rest of the bullshit is nothing but a method to extract money out of the loons.

[mwb970]

27. "Fools and their money....." /nt

[sudopod]

22. You are familiar with George W. Bush, right? nt

[LuckyLib]

23. Yes! I'd like to think that now that America has seen 8 years of stupidity in the WH,

they might think twice about electing someone whose brain and mouth do not operate at the same time.

[GSanon]

24. Hey, let Bachmann win the R primary:) Obama wins 2nd term for SURE!

Just imagine that you lost your home in NC or VA in the storm, regardless of your affiliation or economic class, would you be inclined to vote for a candidate who said that it happened because G-- is mad at you? I'm sure that the business side of the right does not want to hear fire and brimstone sermons in the State of the Union Address. Does anyone really want that type anywhere near the nuquelar missyle launch codes? In will be viva la lesser evil for the deciding swing-voters no matter how disappointing the "Obama economy" gets.