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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:00 PM
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CNN lavishing praise on Perry
He created jobs, jobs, jobs! They breathlessly repeat.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:02 PM
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1. Is it true?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:04 PM
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2. Here's the mainstream news take on it:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:11 PM
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3. Are you talking CNN tv or CNN.com?
The reason I ask is I don't watch news on tv & I just went to CNN.com & I really don't see what the original OP stated. Hope this makes sense.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:14 PM
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4. I was watching TV, the anchors were praising him
and he's on now getting into his jobs self praise
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:20 PM
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7. Thanks for the explanation.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:16 PM
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6.  McJobs.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:23 PM
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9. Plus they stole jobs in this case from California
"We're hiring, we can't hire people fast enough," said Jeff Brown of California-based EA video games. He said the company is adding 300 jobs in Austin, Texas, partly because of low costs, but also because of Perry's three trips to persuade EA to move.

** So this way they can UNDERPAY American workers and lower overall pay in an industry (games and special effects) that sadly is not unionized
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:42 PM
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15. As someone who lives in Ca...
The State SCARED AWAY jobs... and has chased away middle income Californians.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:58 PM
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16. How did they scare away jobs in CA?
Don't know much about that
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 01:35 PM
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20. taxes, fees, regulation and COL
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 02:10 PM by GSLevel9
A few years back my car registration had dropped to $200/year... then instead of going DOWN like they're supposed to, it rose to $360/year.

The Ca State Board of Equalization is so desperate for money that they're sending our payment demands for businesses that haven't filed an income tax return. A good friend of mine has a small part-time business and historically pays 0 sales/use tax. So the state of Ca will literally "make up" a number, in his case it was $5600 that is due. It's purely a fabrication and a ploy to trick people into writing a check to the BOE. So he filed the late return and ended up paying 0.

I know the CEO of CKE is an asshat... and he is, but what he says about opening new restaurants (or any business frankly) is TRUE.

>>Excessive fees, oppressive environmental regulations, exorbitant street maintenance costs and unreasonable construction permitting requirements unique to California add up to $200,000 in additional costs for each restaurant and can take up to two years to process through state and local bureaucracies. On average, the permitting process in California takes about 8 months. In Texas, it takes six weeks. That time difference alone materially increases our costs to open a new restaurant.<<

Bottom line... th state of Ca is desperate for cash and are hounding every capable person or family to get it. And where does it go? The Ca education system is terrible, the roads are awful and teh economy sucks. I can't wait to go back home...

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:15 PM
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5. Shouldn't Obama get credit for those jobs?
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 12:16 PM by Cali_Democrat
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:22 PM
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8. People here need to WTF up ...
THIS is the battle for the presidency ...

Perry as the TOUGH JOB CREATOR vs Obamanation, the weak president who kills jobs ...

That is how the Rs are going to define the race, and how the media will because that is how the Rs want it ...

I am going go kick the next person on this board who calls president Obama "weak" in the friggen private parts ...
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:25 PM
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10. I agree with you 1000% we must come together and FIGHT HARD for Obama
and I agree we must not have tolerance for those who spout the Republican line that Obama is weak.

HE IS NOT WEAK he is under attack by Republicans and the forces behind them who own the countries wealth.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:45 PM
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25. Support!
nm
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:27 PM
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12. So many people here are providing an assist to Republicans by helping push their talking points.
They need to wake the fuck up.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:37 PM
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14. Maybe it's time to make a weekly (daily?) list of Republican talking points
and once defined as such discourage them from being used by "disgruntled" democrats.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:48 PM
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26. Seriously ...
He is not perfect, and I have been gravely disappoitned at times.

But, he HAS been a pretty darn good president.

And, this is it, now. It is game time. And, whatever fantasy world people are living in, it is BO or Romney or Perry. That is it.

People can get behind him or be part of having a deranged R in the white house.

I can GUARENFREAKIN T that the Rs are 100% AGAINST BO and will be behind their candidate (a little less if it is Romney).
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 01:14 PM
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18. Putting my nut protector on.....
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 01:21 PM by Armstead
Obama is weak if he doesn't start fighting back and lets the GOP get away with their lies.

Instead of whining about "bipartisan gridlock by those folks in Washington" he's gotta start talking about how its the Republicans who are obstructing every effort at job creation and economic revival.

Until he starts telling the Truth, the GOP will spin him into early retirement -- and the Democratic Party too.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:44 PM
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24. Look ...
I think you just don't get where he is coming from.

I have been over this a lot here - he campaigned on being the adult, and sadly, the biggest children in DC are the Rs. You simply were not paying attention if you think he campaigned as a firebreathing progressive. He campaigned on changing the tone in DC.

If it were ME, I would be stomping the guts out of them. But, I also understood who I supported for president.

Have I been disappointed at times.

YES.

But, he is not "weak." Not even close.

And, again, this is what the republicans and media are trying to paint him as.

You may not want to admit it, but it is BO or Romney or Perry. Bottom line.

He is not perfect, but he is 1000 times better than the alternative, and also the coattails that supporting the president/party can do in getting some more seats in congress vs letting the Rs get more.

Sorry, you can call him weak and increase the odds of Romney/Perry in the white house and more Rs in congress, or you can get behind him (and, yes, deal with your disappointments) and try to get him more to work with in congress.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:05 PM
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30. I think if Obama was alone with us in a room with no microphones
He'd be as progressive as any of us.

He cannot be that and be POTUS sadly
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:02 AM
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34. LIttle doubt ...
And your point is taken ...
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:36 AM
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36. I think people would respect him more if he were that honest Obama
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 10:36 AM by Armstead
Let's face it, somewhere between 30 and 40 percent of the population have him tagged as an evil socialist no matter what he does or says. He could talk and adopt the policies of Michelle Bachmann, and those people would still think of him that way.

There is also the 30-40 percent of us who either agree with his position or wis he were more clearly a liberal and a fighter but will support him anyway.

The trick, IMO, is not to be a chameleon for the "middle" but to actually go out and convince them WHY liberal policies make more sense and will benefit them. Tghe GOP is already sellinmg the right-wing corporate agenda to them -- and Obama needs to make a clear sales pitch from the liberal side, with actual policies.

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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 07:01 PM
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33. so CNN has picked their candidate.
rotten fuckers there.

they slice and dice Obama every day all day long and now swoon over Perry?

and people here wonder why I don't believe anything that shithole of a place says - because when they say Obama, he a bad man, some here take it as NEWS fercrissakes.

wake the fuck up is right, Cosmocat. Instead of shoring up what power Democrats do have, belittling and calling him names here is productive? and no I don't mean legitimate criticisms by any means, but the truckloads of bullshit oneliners that the Pugs use, repeated here, is enough to make you just pull your hair out and eat it.

and when/if the CNNs and the bloggers that shouldn't be trusted with writing up a menu in a dive, win this one and anoint Perry, why the same screamers will still blame Obama for everything and give that shitlegs Perry a pass.

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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:11 AM
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35. I don't even watch CNN ...
seriously, because they are worse than Faux in that they have this assumed credibility as being the honest broker, but their NUMBER ONE prime directive is tearing down Ds.

I held me nose for a while, but after hearing Wolf Blitzer felicitate some republican moron by starting off his journalistic inquiry "Representative, you are a GOOD conservative ..." for the 100th time, I turned the channel and never looked back.

We all have been disappointed at times, but BO HAS done a good bit of good. He is too cozy with big business for my taste and I saw that even during his campaign. And, I was sorely disappointed when he walked away from a WINNING battle over the Bush tax cuts last December.

But, overall, he has done a good job, and has made good on what he said he would do for the most part.

But, this is game time now. The republican field is set, and it is going to be them talking about how god awful our democratic president is. The WHOLE party will be against BO, and the only way we don't end up with one of those lunatics as our president in 2012 is if WE ALL are behind OUR president, a president that HAS earned our full support.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:37 AM
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38. We're on the same page Cosmocat, 100% for our President who bears the brunt of the sick Repugs nt
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:12 PM
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39. Game on!
Give em heck!
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:27 PM
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11. If anyone is at all surprised at this, they are WAY late to the party.
And here DU sits polling itself about how bad they think the Dem President is.

Just the way Rove would like it.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 12:36 PM
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13. I have to wonder which bloggers/posters get their marching orders from
the bowels of the Koch organization. It's not that hard to influence opinion if one hammers long enough.

On the extreme left you've got the ideologues who think a President Perry might create "revolution"!
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:14 PM
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41. Hunh? I'm on the extreme left and Perry and Obama both head
up capitalist parties. Neither party is going to create a revolution (although Perry might usher in an even more reactionary, aka opposite of revolutionary, era.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 10:22 AM
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42. And on the extreme Right, there are those who think he serves the interest of Rapture
So, one has to wonder what CNN is really up to?
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 01:05 PM
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17. +1
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 01:24 PM
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19. That sounds like CNN
Shallow reporting by shallow commentators. They put most of their money and effort into high-tech graphics and gimmicks. I gave up on CNN a while back.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:03 PM
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21. They need to help keep crazies from taking over our country, but they just hammer
on about government failure (Obama's fault they imply) and the fear of the economy / markets going down the toilet.

It's not that bad but okay doesn't sell news.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:09 PM
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22. You rarely hear an original thought
coming from CNN. They tend to be more of an echo chamber. I swear most of them look like Stepford newscasters, especially Wolf Blitzer.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:15 PM
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23. CNN = Fux News Lite
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:48 PM
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27. They are like a kid with a new shinny toy
They want to take it out of the box and play with it for a while non stop. but in a couple weeks they will forget all about it

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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 02:59 PM
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28. Looks like Scary Perry is the "Annointed One" for 2012 by our crooked, bought-out media:
Perry is DANGEROUS. Underestimate him at your own extreme peril. You've been warned.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:03 PM
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29. Do you think they'll nominate him? Then the Teaparty would be in total control
I'm not sure the old guard wants that in the Repuke party.
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:36 PM
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31. I stopped watching all cable news, too many questions I have are never asked.
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 04:37 PM by pwb
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 04:51 PM
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32. Lots of new MINIMUM wage jobs in Texas, and jobs that Perry stole from other states.
But really no increase in 'new' well-paying jobs.
The media will tear Perry's jobs record apart, and he will look like the idiot he is in the end.


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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:36 AM
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37. I hope they do tear it apart, and then go after Romney
I'd like to be a fly on the wall in the CNN policy meetings regarding pumping up lunatic candidates like Perry. For that matter Romney who will run this country into the ground.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 02:52 PM
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40. Yes, he created a lot of new jobs.
Unfortunately they are minimum paying jobs with no health Insurance. How can anyone earning minimum wages ever afford to be sick? Why would anyone ever move to hot as hell Texas for one of those crappy jobs?
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BackToThe60s Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:12 PM
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43. CNN: Corporatist Nonsense Nationwide
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KOfan Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 03:39 PM
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44. Eff Perry
And eff CNN for once again bringing the President's poll numbers up every 5 minutes. Geeezuss H, this is going to be a tough year on t.v.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 03:47 PM
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45. reminds me of 2000 all over again
CNN just repeated the Bush talking points verbatim. If I had to hear Wolf Blitzer excuse Dumbya's foreign policy inexperience with "he's worked on border issues with Vincente Fox" one more time, I thought I'd lose it.

Corporate media has their man with Perry. Now we get to listen to him sold to us as a regular joe. Why, probably the kind of fellow you'd want to have a beer with, un like that Harvard elitist Obama.
No coverage of his secessionist side, lunatic religious right friends or anything that will get away from the narrative will be allowed.
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