He pissed it all away.

[rug]

[montanacowboy]

1. I am DONE

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[Vanje]

16. How about not belittling fellow DUrs

by comparing them to babies, or spoiled children , when they voice their concerns.

Your not helping out your guy get any more support or votes this way. You're just pissing people off

[Rosco T.]

31. Pot. Meet Kettle.

You don't think you are pissing people off?

[Ikonoklast]

57. "Physician, heal thyself!"

Coming from you, that post is unintentionally hilarious.

[Vanje]

71. I didn't realize we had met.

Who are you?

[Ikonoklast]

73. Nobody. Just like you.

Just a poster, one of many, who has read what others have written, lo, these many years.

[melissaf]

23. Take a week or so off

and come back fighting. Giving up is the last thing you want to do...

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[jefferson_dem]

74. Buh bye.

:hi:

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[rug]

7. Having a Republican reach into your back and rip out your spine is not governing.

[CakeGrrl]

14. Damn, do those goalposts move fast!

All the screaming, hollering and wailing about "gutting" SS and Medicare, and the President didn't "cave".

But still he has no spine.

:wtf:

[rug]

15. "we need to make some modest adjustments to programs like Medicare"

"That’s why the second part of this agreement is so important. It establishes a bipartisan committee of Congress to report back by November with a proposal to further reduce the deficit, which will then be put before the entire Congress for an up or down vote. In this stage, everything will be on the table. To hold us all accountable for making these reforms, tough cuts that both parties would find objectionable would automatically go into effect if we don’t act."

I have a modest suggestion for you.

[CakeGrrl]

25. He's talked about those adjustments since the 2011 SOTU.

And I have no problem with him putting the onus on Congress if cuts DO take place. Maybe the dumbasses will actually listen to the constituents who are now sitting a little more at attention after all this bullshit.

[rug]

32. I don't care if if he was talking about it since 1961.

I don't care if his first words were "Cut Social Security - potty now."

He's wrong. He owns it. The onus is on Congress since he handed it over. There is no "if".

[SusanaMontana41]

87. 100 percent agree. n/t

[Heading North]

113. Just like HCR

Letting Congress "lead" is oxymoronic.

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[kath]

82. So are they going to use that damned "chained CPI"? If so, that is a BENEFIT CUT.

A war on the elderly, indeed. I want a DEMOCRAT in the White House, dammit, not this Trojan Horse.

[polichick]

3. Unless he did exactly as he meant to do - move the country to the right...

Hard to tell which it is.

Either way, it's heartbreaking.

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[Logical]

9. Why don't you just educate us in what your cryptic post means. Might be quicker! n-t

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[AmBlue]

28. What you're calling "fringe" is the great majority of this country.

Even the majority of Rs want to see the wealthy and big corps paying their fair share, and whether they recognize it or not they depend on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid like the rest of us. It's a betrayal of trust and utterly contrary to Obama's campaign message. He sold himself as a progressive, but he's nowhere near.

I'm with the OP.... VERY disappointed in the lack of spine and broken promises from our President.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

5. I was one of them. nt

[Vanje]

20. I was one of them, too.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

21. (sigh) nt

[CreekDog]

101. me too

i still have the newspapers from the day after from Reno where i volunteered the last 5 days.

i kept meaning to frame them and put them up, and i still think i will, but almost everytime i do something like this happens.

[Logical]

8. I had HUGE expectations I will admit. They have not been met. But I will vote for him in 2012!

[flamingdem]

12. You are indeed logical, that is good nt

[Union Thug]

11. Obama - The Trojan Horse

He even makes Clinton look like a progressive!

Obama - you may have a deal, but you've lost a vote.

[jefferson_dem]

75. Again?

[Bluenorthwest]

98. What are you, hard of reading? 'Again'? in print?

That is just funny. Read it a second time if you can not grasp it. JD, the day in which content free snark got any traction at all is done and buried at midnight last night. These content free waste of space attempts at sarcasm are not suited to the grave importance of the matters at hand. The name calling and the poor attempts at insult humor, from this day forward, will fail to function as they did before. One word, absurd posts. K&R, nt. Not going to cut the mustard in this post deal world.

[jefferson_dem]

102. ...

Whatever. You've proven yourself to be incapable of engaging in "reality"-based, good-spirited discussion about policy. Zero credibility.

[blkmusclmachine]

13. Those aren't the constituents. Not even close.

The constituents: the have's and the have-more's.

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[ProSense]

19. Oh,

the fact-free drama!

[Vanje]

22. Ah!

Followed by the fact-free retort!

[rug]

24. Oh, there are plenty of facts

http://www.shallownation.com/2011/07/31/president-obama-debt-ceiling-speech-video-july-31-2011-statement-on-budget-deficit-talks/

The fourth paragraph has plenty.

[ProSense]

30. Well,

if only 10 people show up at his events on the campaign trail 2012, I'll say you're right.

How many people does it take to crash the House and Senate servers?

[rug]

33. Well,

if only 10 people die as a result of these "adjustments", will you post a link to their obituaries?

[ProSense]

36. Ah

hyperbole, when solid arguments fail!

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[Odin2005]

118. I'll send you a bill for the money I WON'T get in the future because of chained CPI.

[Vattel]

39. yes, find the facts here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=718431&mesg_id=718431

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

54. Obama Derangement in full effect!! n/t

[Mojorabbit]

69. It seems to me you are wasting your time

Your comments don't change anyone's mind and I really can't see how you manage to ignore the damage that has been done to the Dem brand if nothing else.

[Odin2005]

117. You talking about yourself?

[lbrtbell]

48. No, Obama is the second

Clinton was the first to start dismantling the New Deal, with his "welfare reform".

[Davis_X_Machina]

18. At nine in the morning, Wednesday after the mid-terms....

...that's when he didn't have it any more.

An unprecedented -- well, the figures only go back to '92 -- +19% R vote for 65-and-older made the difference in the mid-terms last fall.

What's the average age of that crowd?

[John Agar]

26. The dream is over.

What can I say?

The dream is over.

Yesterday.

[ZombieHorde]

27. If "it" means the excitement people had in the beginning, then I agree.

His approach toward some of the major issues has been too passive. One of the pillars of politics is debate, and debate is not about peacemaking, it's about the truth.

Another pillar of politics is marketing; in marketing, you want to sell your brand, not "both" brands.

[ClarkUSA]

29. I don't recall a peep in protest when Bernie Sanders "embraced SML Mitch McConnell's proposal."

Psst! Mitch McConnell's plan was not a victory for liberals and only left six months until the next default.

[rug]

34. Tell me when the White House is moved to Montpelier.

[ClarkUSA]

43. Tell when you have details of the final debt plan after it is approved by the Teabagger House.

[rug]

51. Which will be signed with alacrity.

[ClarkUSA]

55. Yes, because that's the way they do everything whenever Pres. Obama wants them to vote aye!

The Teabagger House is so agreeable to passing any legislation that President Obama wants of them. Why should this vote be any different?

[rug]

66. You've got it assbackwards.

Unsurprisingly.

[JoeyT]

35. It wasn't pissed away.

It was sold for a very good price.

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[pscot]

41. In 2008 it felt like

I was voting for this guy:



I am pretty amazed at who showed up instead:

[boxman15]

67. As much as I disagree with what you just said,

that was pretty funny. Gotta hand it to you.

[Ikonoklast]

76. And that, right there, is the reason so many here are disappointed in Mr. Obama.

They voted for who they THOUGHT he was, not paying one bit of attention to who the man himself SAID he was.

They saw "Black Man" and projected "Angry Revolutionary" onto a person that isn't, nor had ever been.


There is more than a slight tinge of racism in that projection.

Not calling you a racist, mind you, but there was that incorrect perception of who Mr. Obama was as a politician, and people are angry at a man who isn't the person they wrongly thought him to be.

Mr. Obama is not Eldridge Cleaver, Malcolm X, or even Dr. King.

[CakeGrrl]

80. +1000. People saw what they wanted, not what was there. -nt

[boxman15]

81. Agreed.

Why can't Obama be Obama?

[okasha]

95. Obama is Obama.

That's the problem.

[bvar22]

92. Yes! THIS is who I thought he was:

Restore America’s Honor
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

Transparency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU

EFCA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNVIQqatyU

NAFTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LtbLEKHsi0&NR=1

Cadillac Tax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wmN3wvhNM&feature=player_embedded

Support for LABOR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA9KC8SMu3o

Public Option & Mandates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acc6Wn_BWlk

WAR in Libya without Congressional Approval
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8


I guess I was just "projecting", and "didn't listen close enough".
Yeah... THATS it!

[treestar]

42. This thread is tops in hyperbole

Oh the drama! :nuke:

[ClarkUSA]

44. rug has convinced me. Goodbye, treestar! I'm moving to New Zealand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Booking tickets now...

[lbrtbell]

50. Sorry, it's hard to be calm with a knife in your back

You must be in pretty good economic shape not to be feeling it. Or maybe I just give a fuck when my aging mother is crying over the prospect of getting even less SS per month, when the lowered COLA kicks in.

Keep your heartless "jokes" to yourself, please. Other people are suffering badly.

[ClarkUSA]

53. Get a grip. Nothing has been agreed upon until everything is agreed upon.

[Whisp]

79. some pee'd on the rug.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkDSAffSBI

[AtomicKitten]

106. lol

Dude! Snaps to anybody that posts a Big Lebowski reference.

[treestar]

59. So this is bad for you personally?

Would the default have been better?

You are just adding to the hyperbole and there is no such cuts to social security.

And quit making it personal. Other people matter too.

[rug]

56. Nah, I'd say Hope and Change was the hyperbole.

[ClarkUSA]

62. Tell it to the people with pre-existing conditions who can now get insurance.

While you're at it, tell Dan Choi to get a fucking clue.

[rug]

64. What about Lily Ledbetter?

You left out Lily Ledbetter!

:wtf:

[ClarkUSA]

68. No need. Lily was there when he signed her named bill into law.

[Mojorabbit]

72. We have been trying for over six monts to get that insurance

with no luck yet.

[KingFlorez]

45. Just stop

[DCBob]

47. I bet we see scenes just like that in about a year from now.

guarantee it.

[rug]

58. Another term to piss away.

[DCBob]

61. so negative.. chill out. its really not that bad.

[rug]

63. Oh, it is.

Even in Washington.

[joshcryer]

49. Obama is going to be reelected in a landslide, haha, hahahahahahaha, completely owned.

[rug]

60. I see you're still hung up in the electioneering, not governing, mode.

That's all that matters.

Even if he's been owned.

[joshcryer]

88. He wouldn't get reelected if he wasn't kicking ass governing.

[digidigido]

89. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Between Michelle Bachman and Barack Obama, I think the winner is obvious whether he "kicks ass" or not

[_ed_]

96. You're right - Obama is completely owned

by Wall Street, military-industrial lobbyists, the extractive industries, and big business.

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[ClarkUSA]

65. Wrong. The WH fact sheet about the proposed debt deal disproves your empty doomsday rhetoric.

Read it and learn how ridiculous your OP title is: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x729115

[rug]

70. Se-ques-ter! Se-ques-ter!

Well, at least it scans the same.

[Tx4obama]

85. And today's deal lines up with the cuts that Obama said he wanted back in April.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x729581

p.s. While no one was paying attention, Obama got just about all the cuts he said he wanted back in April!!!

[Whisp]

77. Woo pee'd on my rug

you really tied the room together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkDSAffSBI

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84. No. Obama did not piss anything way. Obama GOT the cuts HE wanted.

While no one was paying attention, Obama got just about all the cuts he said he wanted back in April!!!

See this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x729581

[admonish]

90. For a man who is constantly under attack from all sides,

he is quite capable of getting something constructive done. I presume 12-dimensional chess really is hard to detect from a never satisfied progressive point of view. If you get out and put in more dems in the house and even senate and give Obama 4 more, you all might just get some of what you want!!

[styersc]

103. Yeah. Its our fault Obama is jello.

We did not support him enough. If we had worked harder for him, he wouldn't have treated us like crap for the last 2.5 years.

No thanks. Just "Unsubscribed" from Obama related e-mail alerts. I've heard all I need to.

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[myrna minx]

86. No! We! Can't! (because 60 republicans in the House might get mad). n/t

[unionworks]

91. the blue meanies

Win again! I didn't "see someone else" when I voted for Obama. I listened to his campaign promises. Campaign theme song for 2012- Fleetwood Macs' "You Make Me Feel Dissatisfied"

[truedelphi]

110. Ah, you summed up the last 17 months inside

One headline.

And there was also "Yes, We Can but only after We Get a Second Term," and

"You are being all sore and pathetic cuz you didn't get your pony."

And then of course, from Rahm's lips, "Retards!"

[OwnedByFerrets]

93. Agreed

[slackmaster]

97. He never had it

:argh:

[Bluenorthwest]

99. He sure did.

pathetic

[muffin1]

100. K&R

Very, very sad. I cannot believe what a disappointment he has been.

[Bluerthanblue]

104. oh bullshit-

if we've failed- we ALL own this.

No matter how much money you donated or how much time you put in to the last election.

WE own the mess that is the USA. As uncomfortable as that reality is.

[xiamiam]

105. bs..see those people in that crowd?..we thought we got what we voted for..

we didn't

[CakeGrrl]

107. I did. I paid attention during the primaries. I didn't project a fantasy vision onto him.

[workinclasszero]

108. So sad

So very, very sad.

He could have been FDR2.

He could have saved this generation.

He could have led America back to greatness once again.

Now he leads us into banana republic status instead.

The US is finished as a great country. We will slowly sink into a third world hellhole with the tea party fascists leading the way along with the help of the President and the fucking DLC.

Good night USA. The long journey into night started by raygun and Bush will continue under Obama, the brownshirt tea baggers and.....

I'm to old for this sad, sad shit.

[truedelphi]

109. I've got your back.

For what it's worth.

[truedelphi]

111. We were the ones we were waiting for.

And we will have to pledge to each other to further the cause.

The cause of the progressives. The progressives that ended Child Labor, that saw to it that Americans had good jobs, with wages that allowed for a single working adult to make enough to support the family. That offered people a safety net.

That progressivism was followed for a brief while by Democrats and Republicans alike. It helped the nation have a fabulous infrastructure - a vast system of highways, community colleges for little payment from the community's students, community hospitals and clinics, and
in order to foot the bill, we had people in the White House and in Congress that did not coddle the rich.

Return the nation to the tax rates that allowed for Eisenhower to put the returning GI's to work and to keep both interest rates and unemployment rates low.

There are progressives that are out there right now that are tired of how the "In Crowd" is dealing down a nasty deal on the "Out Crowd" (And this "Out Crowd" includes 96& of us Americans.)

I entertain a reawakening of the Sleeping Giant. Anyone affected by this SellOut should be interested in reviewing the C Span footage of today's progressive Congress people. From More to Van Hollen to Lee, they were united in their efforts to keep America America.

Those three people will get my time and my efforts next year. The "Bipartisan" Democrats will not.

[killbotfactory]

112. Unfortunately, Bush 2 couldn't run for a third term. nt

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[kiva]

115. This is what makes me so angry,

he had the opportunity to change and reform, the best chance in a generation, and he pissed it away.

Of course the Republicans opposed him, that's what they do - but he gave in, despite the enormous popular support he had. For that, he deserves the criticism he is receiving here.

[Odin2005]

116. We worked our asses off for him in 2008 and he stabbed all of us in the back.

He had so much popular support he could have done ANYTHING had he used to bully pulpit to support a progressive agenda. He pissed it all away.