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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 06:51 PM
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Winning the 2010 Elections: Hint- take some risks, stand up and fight for ordinary Americans
Edited on Wed Nov-18-09 06:51 PM by depakid
Even if you go down in flames- you win.

Sage advice here from Mike Lux:

In January of 1998, the news about Monica Lewinsky exploded in the Washington media world. It was 24-7, and red hot intense. Within 72 hours, Republicans were calling for Clinton's resignation or impeachment, and some Democrats -- even some liberal ones like Paul Wellstone -- were on the verge of doing the same. Clinton survived the first barrage of calls for him to step down, but as that long year wore on, and more and more salacious news came out -- topped off by the stained dress in August -- it looked worse and worse for both Clinton and the Democratic Party.

Republicans were salivating at their prospects in the November elections, and Democrats were running scared. Pundits were predicting big losses for the Democrats in Congress: 30 plus seats in the House and five or six in the Senate. It didn't turn out that way, though. For the first time in 176 years, the party with a president in office in his 6th year actually picked up seats in the Congress (we picked up 5 in the House, while staying even in the Senate.) Without going into detail as to why (if you want to know more about that, you can go here), the bottom line is that progressives outside the party structure helped chart a bold strategy for winning that made all the difference.

Instead of avoiding the president's problems, we made the case that it was time for the country to move on, that all the Republicans wanted to do was wallow in the mud, and instead the country needed to focus on solving our problems. After initially resisting this approach, Democrats ended up embracing it, and we shocked the political world by picking up five seats instead of losing 30.

2010 is a very different kind of year, but it also looks bad for Democrats right now. It feels a lot like 1994 right now, with a weak economy, an impassioned right wing movement, and a discouraged Democratic base.

We didn't do very well in the 2009 elections, and forecasts of ugly job numbers for a long time to come are making a lot of voters feel angry and discouraged. But I am convinced that there is a strategy that can turn the 2010 election around. That strategy needs to be built around health care, jobs, and taking on the big banks. None of these things are easy, but I am convinced that they are by far the best hope Democrats have.

On health care, they simply have to pass a strong bill where at least some important and tangible benefits kick in right away. They just have to if there is any hope in the 2010 elections.


Much more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-lux/winning-the-2010-election_b_362101.html


A very worthwile read. His conclusion mirrors mine (and that of other seasoned observers):

If Democrats follow the safe conventional wisdom formula in the 2010 elections, they will get their butts handed to them. Voters are not happy with incumbents, base Democratic voters feel like no one is fighting for them, independents feel like nobody cares what they think. But if Democrats shed their caution and become fighters, for jobs and health care and the middle class and against insurers and Wall Street, they can pull off the same kind of surprise in 2010 that we pulled off in 1998.



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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 07:22 PM
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1. Would like to rec this several times. Great point is made. n/t
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:52 PM
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3. BINGO
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:44 PM
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2. kicky wicky
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 11:03 PM
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4. Good stuff. K & R.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 11:06 PM
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5. heh
The Dems are gonna kick some pubbies to the curb next year with no problem.

Shoot, the president is a guy who - against all early odds - came from behind and kicked some serious butt.

His campaign people know what to do.

The economy will be better. It has to be better or it won't matter who's in government.
What it is doing now is taking care of business. And why is it taking care of business?
Because the Dems are in charge, that's why.

Relax, we've got this. Just remember the last 8 years, and relax.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 12:33 AM
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7. If the Dems were percieved as taking care of business- that would be one thing
Unfortunately, the opposite is true- and relying on the old "but we're not batshit crazy Republicans" isn't going to hack it now any more than it has in the past.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:06 AM
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16. New to all this? nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 11:39 PM
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6. K + R

Do this you idiots! THE TIME IS RIGHT!! People are ready for it.

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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:15 AM
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8. K&R. Thanks depakid!
Take. On. The. Banks.

It's our only shot.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 02:10 AM
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9. Republicans dug their own graves in 1998 by pursuing impeachment
That's really the main reason the Democrats picked up five seats.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:40 PM
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13. If that were wholly the case, wouldn't the country have just booted them en masse?
and fast forwarding to today-- it's hard to imagine a party more intent on digging its own grave than Republicans.

And yet Democrats may yet best them at that act....
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 11:32 PM
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15. Bill Clinton's approval rating went up 10 points after he was impeached
No the country didn't boot the Republicans en masse but they lost seats in an election where the incumbent Democratic President was plagued with a serious scandal. By all estimates they should've gained a few dozen seats in the House and had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. They broke even in the Senate and lost seats in the House.

Bill Clinton survived Monica because the Republicans managed to show the country that they were even less honest and more sleazy than he was. That's pretty hard to do given the constant media coverage of the Monica scandal.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:40 AM
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18. If my recollection is correct
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 12:41 AM by depakid
Republicans shut down the government three times and caused all sorts of trouble for individuals and businesses a couple years before this.

And didn't pay a price,

Why?

Because there was no contrasting set of people who stood up for traditional Democratic values and and nationalized the election against their irrational nonsense.

A whole lot of people looked at that and reckoned (correctly) that the party stood for damn near nothing.

The rest up til now is history.

Now- the party has another chance. Question is- who and what will it stand for?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 02:46 AM
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20. Yea and that 8 years of President Dole was really horrible
Republicans did pay a price for shutting down the government and that price was losing their shot at taking back the White House in 1996.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:27 AM
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21. Yep- Dole Kemp was a serious candidacy....
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 05:32 AM by depakid
My guess is that by 2012, Republicans and their backers will have chased the Palin element to the side, and will end up running someone ostensibly competent.

Obama may win -or may not, but unless the Democrats decide to actually stand up and fight for something show people something other than "we're not Republicans (well sometimes, no- sort of not- OK kinda like but not crazy as Republicans) then they will likely lose Congress.

And damn- if they continue to behave as they have- rightly so.

Who wants a bunch of cowardly, complicit "we can't do it because _____ excuse" type whingers.

Which is EXACTLY the perception that the party's been reinforcing.

Let me be emphatic. Can't do, weak kneed types will lose even to lunatics.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:43 PM
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10. Absolutely.
If you want to win as a Democrat, you need to ACT like a Democrat.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:48 PM
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11. "WHAT DO WE WANT??!!"... "GRADUAL PROGRESS!!!"..... "WHEN DO WE WANT IT??!!"
"IN DUE TIME!!!"....
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:54 PM
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12. kicking.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:42 PM
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14. It's actually not a risk at all to give the stiff-arm to Wall St.
If anything, it's risky for any politician to keep kow-towing to the financial powers-that-be.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:33 AM
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17. It's a complicated risk alright
and it's next on the agenda.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 02:01 AM
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19. kick
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