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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:42 AM
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WTF - Obama at 42% in Gallup today
Even the RCP (Real Clear Politics) average is 47%..

www.gallup.com



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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:44 AM
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1. Should it be higher?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:59 AM
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9. you forget to add....
in the :sarcasm: to your post.....
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vroomvroom Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:45 AM
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Makes you Understand Why Obama Always Moves Right.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 09:46 AM by vroomvroom
But then maybe the polls arent updated to reflect the last speech.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:00 AM
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10. when did he move right?
www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com

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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:22 PM
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34. Let's see -
Expansion of Afghanistan war.

Failure to end Iraq.

Tax cuts for the rich.

Co-opting Romney's HCR.

Attacking Libya.

Appointing Goldman Sachs types to run the Treasury.

Appointing corporate CEOs to reform the tax code for corporations.



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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:45 AM
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2. That was yesterday. I would think there would be a jump soon as Obama's speech was well received
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 09:47 AM by flpoljunkie
by the Democratic base and well as the elusive independents.

Gallup posts it's new rolling poll numbers at 1PM daily.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:49 AM
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4. He's dropped like 5% in 2 days...That was latest number
Govt. shutdown was averted, and like you said speech other day was well received, especially on the left...Should have been a bump UP, not down..

$4 gas doesn't help, and there is little Obama can do about that, yet he will take all the blame..
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:56 AM
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17. $4 gas and no rise in taxes for the rich.
The little guys are fed up.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:03 AM
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20. One man, one vote
One rich guy gets the same number of votes as one homeless guy. Unfortunately Obama, being a Constitutional Law scholar seems to have forgotten this point and is busy dusting off his knee pads for Wall Street.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:13 PM
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29. I agree--I am tired of Obama's "pretty words"
We need action! TAX the rich! Tax the corporations! Hold Wall Street accountable! End the wars!

We would rise up and support him...even if he just followed through on his campaign promises.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:01 AM
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19. Bullshit
He COULD do something about it, but chooses not to. He could push for limits on speculation but he does not. He could push for a tax on commodity/future market contracts, but he does not. He could call out Wall Street for pushing up prices through market manipulation but he does not.

He could have pushed for a restoration of Glass Steagall which would seperate investment banks from retail commercial banks. But HE DID NOT! So now Bernake's quantitative easing (free money) goes directly into Bank of America which dumps it directly into Merrill Lynch which then pours it into driving up stock prices AND BUYS UP OIL FUTURES, as well as other commodities (precious metals) as a (Irony of ironies) hedge against inflation which is all the quantitative easing is!!

You can't have "the smartest president in a generation" not know this. Or maybe he isn't that smart? Or more likely he is just a coward.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:13 AM
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22. He's dumb, stupid, and especially a spineless coward
seeing as how he continually appeared at rallies where people brought guns all the while knowing that lots of people want to do him physical harm. That took no guts at all. That's why he continually bends over to republicans, because arguing with them is so much more scarier than risking death.

You happy now?

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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:15 AM
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24. No
Not happy. Not happy at all. But I do agree with the stupid spineless coward point.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:26 PM
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25. You are aware of the Secret Service are you not?
The President of the U.S. is better protected than any other individual in the world. Having said that I don't think he is a coward but I don't think he has been aggressive as should be.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:09 PM
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33. But we still managed to have President's shot or killed with them around.
They're not full proof.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:58 PM
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35. Of course they are not.
But my point is that courage or cowardliness should not be measured by whether a President attends a rally or not. They have stopped many incidents, some we never hear about.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:39 PM
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32. True. Where do people think the printed money goes after the Fed buys the bonds?
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 04:40 PM by Cali_Democrat
Do they think the money is just parked on the sidelines in a savings account collecting 0.25% interest? ROFL. Hell no.

Those hundreds of billions of printed dollars are pouring into commodities, equities and other high risk assets. People want a high rate of return and nearly all asset classes are rising in price at the same time.

Ben said himself that he wants higher asset prices. Well the average consumer is greatly impacted by rising commodity and energy prices and they can't really hedge against it. How many average people are gonna buy gold/silver/oil futures contracts to hedge against inflation? Not very many.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:25 PM
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26. Yes, I think it may well be rising gas prices that are driving down his numbers
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:46 AM
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3. Yeah
What happened? The budget deal went through that wasn't as bad as feared, he helped avert a shutdown that most people credit him with, he gave a strong speech about the deficit that was well received by most people. What gives? :shrug:
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:53 AM
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No ponies...no promised goodies....
...you tell people if you want it, you have to pay for it, if you want tax cuts, you need program cuts, 42% is still pretty good.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:34 AM
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15. Right. Nothing to panic over per se
The public doesn't have a definitive Republican alternative for him..........yet. It's not like the Republicans smell blood in the water either- given as how most of the *credible* challengers have, at best, only formed exploratory committees.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:05 AM
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21. 42% is excellent! Ask Bob Dole
Sheesh. I can't believe the shit I read here anymore.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:49 AM
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5. Maybe it was influenced by Gallup's poll a few days earlier
Democrats, Republicans Differ Widely on Taxing the Rich

PRINCETON, NJ -- President Obama's call Wednesday for higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans highlights a partisan and class gulf in Americans' views on taxing the rich. Substantial majorities of Democrats and of those with low incomes endorse the idea of redistributing wealth by heavy taxes on the rich. Two-thirds or more of Republicans and of those with higher incomes disagree.



<...>

Who knew President Obama called for "redistributing wealth by heavy taxes on the rich"?


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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:53 AM
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6. The Fox News Effect? nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:59 AM
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8. No,
Gallup's poll question sucked: Do you think the government should or should not redistribute wealth by heavy taxes on the rich?

When did ending the Bush tax cuts become redistributing wealth and heavy taxes on the rich?

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:03 AM
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11. Got it, that makes sense
I skimmed to fast
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:59 AM
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18. "Redistribute" is a charged word.
That is typical of Gallup.

I think Gallup does a lot of polling for business interests -- I mean commissioned by business interests. Their polls are, for that reason, not reliable.

I say this because they sometimes ask about, for example, what specific restaurants or banks those polled use. I take it those polls are commissioned.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:12 AM
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12. Jeez-what a Frank Luntzian way to ask a question! That's ridiculously false and
NOT what Obama wants to do-letting tax cuts for the top 2% expire so they pay 3% more is FAR from "redistributing wealth by heavy taxes on the rich"!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:14 AM
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13. Delete-wrong place.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 10:18 AM by jenmito
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:55 AM
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7. It is not unheard of for them to come up with some crazy poll.
Remember Polls can and are used as sticks by the
Media to beat candidates, Presidents , Members of
Congress into submission.

Fox has been on theme for the last two weeks.
Over and over. Obama's poll numbers Obamas Poll
Numbers Obama is in trouble.

IMO, this is the strategy of the Republican Party.
Right now they have no candidate who is setting
things on fire.

The Republicans have begun to recite. Obama has
to be at least 50% Approval or he cannot win.
Even some Republican pointed this out on Tweety's
Hardball the other day. Republican Talking point.

It is too bad Polls have been so overused and misused
that it is difficult for me to trust them. Dems and Activists
just get the Democratic Story out and Support
Obama and you can weather any storm. We are on the
side of the Angels.


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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:19 AM
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14.  Yet in yesterday's (R)asmussen poll, Obama's approval was at 49%! n/t
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ReturnoftheDjedi Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:42 AM
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16. meaningless. Obama just needs to keep doing what he's been doing.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:53 PM
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27. +100
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:14 AM
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23. Just take a look around.
Everything out there is fucked up.

Still.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:55 PM
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28. I know ... the market is down like 5000 points since he took office ...
And unemployment is up like 25% since he took office ...

And his OBAMACARE is already killing 100 old people a day ...

And he takes more vacation than all the Presidents in US history ...

And he GASP ... put mustard on a burger!!!

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:20 PM
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30. Economy/Inflation
People are feeling the effects of high food and energy prices and they're not happy at all.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:24 PM
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31. Food & gas prices are going even higher from here
The developing world has more money now to buy both.
Law of Supply & Demand.
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