All the Repubs want is for Obama to not get any good legislation through the congress. That is all

[applegrove]

they stand for and all they want: the perpetual campaign to make sure Obama or the Dems. never connect with the general public (let alone their own base).

I would not count on Lieberman for anything. He is one of the neocons.

[villager]

1. True. Now, once the White House actually starts proposing *good* legislation...

...then we can get some supporters fired up!

[LovinLife]

2. As disgusting as Obama and the Dems have become, repukes are worse. NT

[salguine]

3. You know what? I can't bring myself to believe that any more. I get fucked either way.

[Clio the Leo]

4. And now we're helping......

... this is supposed to be a good idea?

I dont get it.

[Pushed To The Left]

5. Exactly! RW host Mark Levine was bashing Lieberman the other day for considering voting for even

the most watered-down version yet. They don't want ANYTHING to pass. We should get what we can, which will be a defeat for the RW but a disappointment for us, and then push through Medicare expansion and/or the public option via reconciliation.

[applegrove]

6. I like your thinkinvg.

[hollowdweller]

7. I'd love to see him propose something good.

Employee Free Choice Act??

How about a bill banning permanent replacement workers?

Legalize marijuana?

Protect internet speech from retribution by employers??

[quakerboy]

8. And all I want is for Obama not to let any bad legislation through congress.

That is all. I used to want more, but now I would settle for that.

[RememberWellstone]

9. Reps can choke on their own shit

For all I care....they got us in this mess and blame Obama. It's just going to get worse, hell my parents are calling me the fool of the family. They told me not to even mention President Obama's name this Xmas when I get there.:eyes:

[applegrove]

15. That will be a tough Xmass. I feel for ya buddy!

[angee_is_mad]

10. Exactly right

and we are falling for it.

[GeorgeGist]

11. How do you like Obama's ....

bipartisanshit now?

[treestar]

12. Well true. And every new regulation impinges on their freedom

Their freedom to make contracts with insurance companies is at stake. Because you know they negotiate with them and get the best prices. :sarcasm:

[uponit7771]

13. I don't see how Lieberman can be brought on board, he was never on board....

[iceman66]

14. True.

And as they are obviously not acting in good faith, I don't see why our side should either.

If Harry Reid had any balls at all, he'd be using reconciliation for EVERYTHING. Then the Republicans would quickly become irrelevant.

[applegrove]

16. I'm sure the neocons would use reconcilliation.

[Avalux]

17. And their campaign is working.

I really thought the Pukes would splinter after losing the election, but it seems to have united them in their quest to obstruct. Instead, it's the Democratic party that is splintering, because Obama can't make all their dreams come true.

[applegrove]

20. Yup. And the glue that keeps them together is "no raising taxes". When

the whole USA is in the crisis position California is in right now will they change their toon? Cause that is where the USA is headed.

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. It's the Harold Washington strategy

Predictably enabled by the short-sighted on our own side of the aisle.

[applegrove]

19. Who is Harold Washington?

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. ROFL

Oy vey.

[Lucky Luciano]

23. I dunno either

:shrug:

[applegrove]

24. Harold Washington Mayor of Chicago whose strategy is divivde and conquer in reverse.

http://www.swans.com/library/art14/mangcu01.html

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. No, Harold Washington was the first black mayor of Chicago

The strategy of his opponents was to make sure absolutely NOTHING could be done, period, even if they otherwise would have supported the initiative. This seems to be the strategy of the Republicans for Obama.

[applegrove]

26. Yup.

[depakid]

22. There are 4 or 5 Senate "Dems" who want the same thing