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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:41 PM
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CNN Poll: Most support no fly zone in Libya but not ground troops
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 01:04 PM by jenmito


"According to the survey, 70 percent support the establishment of a no-fly zone by the U.S. and other countries, up from 56 percent a week ago. Twenty-seven percent oppose the move, down 13 points.

The poll indicates support drops to 54 percent for air strikes not directly related to the no-fly zone that instead target the troops fighting the rebels, with 43 percent opposed to that action.

And most Americans are on the same page as President Barack Obama in opposing putting U.S. ground forces into the conflict. Seven out of ten questioned oppose such a move, with just 28 percent in favor.
<snip>

Half of those questioned approve of how the president is handling the situation in Libya, with 41 percent saying they disapprove, and a relatively high nine percent undecided. Only 27 percent of Republicans approve of how Obama is handling Libya despite the fact that they are more likely than Democrats and Independents to support the military strikes that began on Saturday."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/21/cnn-pol...

Good thing he's NOT sending in ground troops. I don't know why they even asked the question, since the UN resolution doesn't allow for sending in ground troops and Obama said he WON'T be sending in ground troops.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:45 PM
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1. Look how easy the sheeple are so easily swayed
People who change their mind in one week should not be voting.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:46 PM
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2. "People who change their mind in one week should not be voting." Really?
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 12:47 PM by jenmito
Maybe they weren't paying attention a week ago or didn't know the details.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:53 PM
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5. If they weren't paying attention they shouldn't be voting either
They only changed their minds because the no-fly zone started. Sheeple.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:54 PM
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6. What a ridiculous comment. n/t
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:01 PM
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26. Don't like it when public opinion doesn't go your way?
Oh, you poor baby!
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:41 PM
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36. People who say who should be able to vote or not should not be voting. (nt)
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:49 PM
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3. You get these numbers...
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 12:50 PM by dennis4868
because it is an international coalition that includes the USA, sanctioned by the UN....not like Iraq where it was the USA saying its our way or the highway....Thank you Barak Obama....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:52 PM
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4. Exactly...
and anyone who says Obama is just like Bush, saying this action to help the Libyan people (who ASKED for the help) is another Iraq invasion, make no sense.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:56 PM
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7. Poll: 70% believe Saddam, 9-11 link
Of course that was then, but I think you'll get my point :)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll...
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:59 PM
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8. But that poll....
was taken from people who were believing lies from Bush....cannot compare the 2 military actions.

CNN: Why Libya 2011 is not Iraq 2003 http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/20/bergen.libya....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:01 PM
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10. Thank you...
see how long it took for someone to compare Obama to Bush? :eyes:
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:04 PM
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13. DU has turned into a crazy place the last 6 months....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:07 PM
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16. I think it's been longer than the last 6 months. n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:39 PM
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35. They do it all the time. n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:06 PM
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15. Americans, on the whole, are gullible morons.
Polling gullible morons is pointless and doesn't reveal much.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:13 PM
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18. I agree with you...
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 01:14 PM by dennis4868
Americans (which include many DUers and the PL) can be gullible morons!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:59 PM
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9. Yup-they believed the lie from the Bush admin. I do NOT get your point. n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:04 PM
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12. My point is that polls aren't worth very much...
...when the people you're polling are dumber than a box of rocks and will believe the bullshit spewed by nefarious interests.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:06 PM
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14. So you think Obama is lying like Bush did?
What "nefarious interests" are you talking about in Obama's case?
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:11 PM
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17. These are the same interests.
It's not specific to Obama. These interests run our country and have been around long before Obama. One of them is the military industrial complex.

Weapons manufactures waiting to fill new orders of tomahawk missiles and bombs. More war, more profit for them. When the US war machine gets exercised, they reap the profits.

Obama doesn't have the power to do much about it and even if he did, they would go after him with a vengeance.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:17 PM
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19. Bull. People always pull out the "military industrial complex" line as some "proof" that
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 01:18 PM by jenmito
Obama=Bush, as if nothing can ever be done for the right (and stated) reasons.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:26 PM
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20. My point about the military industrial complex was not to compare Obama to Bush
My point was to explain how the interests of the military industrial complex will exist regardless of who's President. Why do you think our relatively large defense budget hasn't changed and will not change for the foreseeable future? The military industrial complex has to be fed.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:33 PM
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21. So in YOUR mind, the actions being taken (and endorsed by the Arab League and others)
are being taken to feed the MIC and NOT to help stop the slaughter of the Libyan people by Qadaffi? :eyes:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:39 PM
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22. The two interests are not mutually exclusive
They are not necessarily competing interests.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:47 PM
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23. So you DO believe that the actions being taken (and endorsed by the Arab League and others)
are being taken to help stop the slaughter of the Libyan people by Qadaffi? Good to hear.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:55 PM
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24. The actions being taken will likely help the rebels and parts of the civilian population.
But do I agree that that is the main factor behind the unleashing of the weapons of war? No.

There are many factors to consider when our government wages war, but one must look behind the curtain to see who's really pulling the strings.

Joe Lieberman and many of the other neocons are all for this action. They are paid whores of the Military Industrial Complex. Anytime the neocons are for certain military actions abroad, one must step back and do some in depth analysis.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:58 PM
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25. So you think the MAIN reason for the UNSC and the Arab League to help the Libyan people
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 01:58 PM by jenmito
and the U.S. is to feed the MIC? OK-got it. Nothing will change your mind, so there's no use to discussing this further with you.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:08 PM
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27. No....they took the action in order to help the rebels
But they don't realize that the MIC cannot be tamed. It's a ferocious force. It's interesting to note the Arab League reaction to the missile and bombing attacks. They obviously didn't realize the true intention of the MIC and they are having misgivings. Not uprising at all.

Weapons stocks will be replenished and new targets will be acquired. The beast will be fed and the status quo will continue regardless of who's President.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:15 PM
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28. So, again, you DO acknowledge they're taking this action to help the rebels.
Good. The rest is your own conspiracy theory. And FYI-the Arab League STILL approves of what's happening. There was a statement from ONE man from the Arab League who is running for president of Egypt. He was trying to gain "street cred" but the "street" is with us-not him, and he walked back what he said soon after he said it.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:25 PM
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29. They passed the resolution to help the rebels.
But people are now starting to look at the fervent interests being the bombing of Libya, which includes the neocons and others. Again, they felt the beast could be tamed, but it can't.

The defense budget will remain and the pigs will be fed.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:29 PM
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30. OK. Enjoy your conspiracy theory. I'm done discussing this with you. n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:36 PM
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31. $700 billion/year
Not much of a conspiracy. It's out in the open. :hi:
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:43 PM
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37. The Arab League has rejected the current campaign
as you well know.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:30 PM
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39. Only when the media twisted the GS's words on this.....
and I guess your views follow those of our corporate media.
Good to know.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:34 PM
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40. You're wrong as you SHOULD very well know. And here's a link:
Arab League chief: We respect UN resolution on Libya military action

Amr Moussa reiterates support for international enforcement of no-fly zone over Libya despite earlier comments suggesting concern by actions taken by Western powers.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/arab-league-c...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:02 PM
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11. Poll: 72 percent support a public option
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 03:52 PM
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32. Good--because that's exactly what we're doing.
No ground troops, period.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:03 PM
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33. Well, not yet. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:09 PM
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38. The President flatly said "No ground troops."
If he breaks that promise, he'll lose my support and I suspect the support of quite a few others.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:13 PM
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34. Exactly. n/t
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:16 PM
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41. LOL. In the beginning most people supported Iraq too.
and then it went on and on and on and the coalition fell apart and the U.S. got screwed.
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